There is video hosting web sites on the intertubes?
Now where would those be found, I wonder. All I have ever seen is
macro-streaming that is fraudulently labeled and advertised as video -- the
worst being something called FlashVirus, which was written by a company called
MacroVirus Media or
Hi,
On 04.01.2012 13:02, Måns Nilsson wrote:
> [..snipped..]
>
Trouble is, we find that (untweaked) cost and metric are such that all
nodes are equal. The last resort (peer router ID) gets invoked and all
traffic goes to one single instance. Of course, when that instance falls
off the net rec
On Tue, Dec 06, 2011 at 01:44:05PM -0800, Jonathan Lassoff wrote:
> Cramming every little feature under the sun into one appliance makes for
> great glossy brochures and Powerpoint decks, but I just don't think it's
> practical.
1. It's an excellent way to create a single point-of-failure.
2. I p
On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 4:51 AM, Keith Medcalf wrote:
>
> There is video hosting web sites on the intertubes?
>
> Now where would those be found, I wonder. All I have ever seen is
> macro-streaming that is fraudulently labeled and advertised as video -- the
> worst being something called FlashVi
On Thu, Jan 05, 2012 at 10:22:55AM -0500, Rich Kulawiec wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 06, 2011 at 01:44:05PM -0800, Jonathan Lassoff wrote:
> > Cramming every little feature under the sun into one appliance makes for
> > great glossy brochures and Powerpoint decks, but I just don't think it's
> > practical.
On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 10:22 AM, Jay Ashworth wrote:
> Vint Cerf says no: http://j.mp/wwL9Ip
With all due respect to Vint, I think that it isn't now, but it will be.
Regards
Marshall
>
> But I wonder to what degree that's dependent on how much our governments make
> Internet access the most pra
In a message written on Thu, Jan 05, 2012 at 10:22:52AM -0500, Jay Ashworth
wrote:
> Understand: I'm not saying that FiOS should be a human right. But as a
> society, America's recognized for decades that you gotta have a telephone,
> and subsidized local/lifeline service to that extent; that so
I agree with Vint here. Basic human rights are access to food, clothing
and shelter. I think we are still struggling in the world with that. With
your logic one would expect the radio and TV to be a basic human right but
they are not, they are and will remain powerful medium which be enablers
of so
On 5 January 2012 15:22, Jay Ashworth wrote:
> Understand: I'm not saying that FiOS should be a human right. But as a
> society, America's recognized for decades that you gotta have a telephone,
> and subsidized local/lifeline service to that extent; that sort of subsidy
> applies to cellular ph
Hope yall had an 'eventless' holiday. (I.e. no pages at 2 am on a holiday
morning).
Sorry to drop what is possibly just someone misunderstanding something or
pulling my leg on the list, but over the holidays I ran into one of my buddies
that is also a network admin type and he was griping about
- Original Message -
> From: "Zaid Ali"
> On 1/5/12 7:22 AM, "Jay Ashworth" wrote:
>
> >Vint Cerf says no: http://j.mp/wwL9Ip
> >
> >But I wonder to what degree that's dependent on how much our governments
> >make Internet access the most practical/only practical way to interact
> >with
- Original Message -
> From: "Leo Bicknell"
> Broadband, to me, is not a human right. It is something that makes our
> society more efficient, and improves the quality of life for virtually
> every citizen, so I do think the government has a role and interest in
> seeing widespread, if no
On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 11:07 AM, Jay Ashworth wrote:
> - Original Message -
>> From: "Zaid Ali"
>
>> On 1/5/12 7:22 AM, "Jay Ashworth" wrote:
>>
>> >Vint Cerf says no: http://j.mp/wwL9Ip
>> >
>> >But I wonder to what degree that's dependent on how much our governments
>> >make Internet a
In a message written on Thu, Jan 05, 2012 at 11:09:59AM -0500, Jay Ashworth
wrote:
> > Broadband, to me, is not a human right. It is something that makes our
> > society more efficient, and improves the quality of life for virtually
> > every citizen, so I do think the government has a role and in
On 1/5/12 8:07 AM, "Jay Ashworth" wrote:
>- Original Message -
>> From: "Zaid Ali"
>
>> On 1/5/12 7:22 AM, "Jay Ashworth" wrote:
>>
>> >Vint Cerf says no: http://j.mp/wwL9Ip
>> >
>> >But I wonder to what degree that's dependent on how much our
>>governments
>> >make Internet access th
Would a comcast postmaster be so kind as to contact me off list?
Thanks.
--
Matt
On 1/5/2012 11:29 AM, Leo Bicknell wrote:
In a message written on Thu, Jan 05, 2012 at 11:09:59AM -0500, Jay Ashworth
wrote:
Didn't *say* broadband. Didn't even say "Internet service". Said "Internet
*access*", in the non-techspeak meaning of those words.
For the purposes of my e-mail and th
On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 08:29:05 PST, Leo Bicknell said:
> But let's take a specific (famous) example. Kevin Mitnick. From
> his wikipedia page:
>
> "During his supervised release, which ended on January 21, 2003, he was
> initially forbidden to use any communications technology other than a
>
On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 11:09:59 EST, Jay Ashworth said:
> Didn't *say* broadband. Didn't even say "Internet service". Said "Internet
> *access*", in the non-techspeak meaning of those words.
There are those who would say "Free Internet access is available at the
Public Library and the Community Ce
It's an interesting question.
Most think of the Internet in the context of entertainment and productivity.
I would ask that those who do remove themselves from the US (or any
other prosperous nation) and think about Internet access in nations
that are oppressed or depressed.
1. The Internet allo
In a message written on Thu, Jan 05, 2012 at 11:48:06AM -0500, Dave Israel
wrote:
> As an aside, your example is flawed, because judicial punishment does
> involve a loss, or at least a curtailment, of what many people consider
> to be basic rights.
In a message written on Thu, Jan 05, 2012 at
Happy New Year All!!!
I'm trying to perform STIG compliancy on various Cisco equipment. Has anybody
used the Router Assessment Tool (RAT) for routers and switches? Any cheap
(free) recommendations? As a last ditch effort I could use NMAP.
Thanks,
Tim
I think there's a fundamental difference between human and civil rights.
Human rights come from our humanity, i.e. us being human. As humans,
we can walk, talk, produce things, own property, etc.
Assuming that isn't true, the next logical question is where do you
draw the line?
Vehicles are benef
On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 12:34:32 EST, Jon Schipp said:
> I think the idea that food, shelter etc. are human rights is absurd.
> Doesn't that imply that someone must provide those things for me? What
> if they don't want to? Does that mean they are forced to? Which would
> be a violation of their human
Based on a some I have received off list it seems no-one has ever heard of such
a proposal that has had any serious traction so I assume the gentleman was
either mistaken, paranoid, or trying to pull a joke on me.
Thank you for the responses everyone. You can now get back to your regularly
sche
On 01/05/2012 11:34 AM, Jon Schipp wrote:
> I think the idea that food, shelter etc. are human rights is absurd.
> Doesn't that imply that someone must provide those things for me? What
> if they don't want to? Does that mean they are forced to? Which would
> be a violation of their human rights.
On 1/5/12 9:34 AM, "Jon Schipp" wrote:
>I think there's a fundamental difference between human and civil rights.
>
>Human rights come from our humanity, i.e. us being human. As humans,
>we can walk, talk, produce things, own property, etc.
>
>Assuming that isn't true, the next logical question
> > I think the idea that food, shelter etc. are human rights is absurd.
> > Doesn't that imply that someone must provide those things for me?
> What
> > if they don't want to? Does that mean they are forced to? Which would
> > be a violation of their human rights.
>
> There are those who think th
On 1/5/2012 7:36 AM, Marshall Eubanks wrote:
On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 10:22 AM, Jay Ashworth wrote:
Vint Cerf says no: http://j.mp/wwL9Ip
With all due respect to Vint, I think that it isn't now, but it will be.
With all due respect for the view that it will be, I'll suggest that this
enti
Free Speech is a human right. It's still a human right when that
speech is conveyed over the Internet. To the extent that a government
obstructs Internet access by its citizens, it is obstructing a human
right.
In a capitalist society, human rights are about obstruction, not
compulsion. The right
If you search for "email archiving" instead of journaling you'll come
up with a lot more information. It dates back to court rule changes
in 2006.
Most of it is hype because of [largely incorrect] articles like this
one (just one of the first hits):
http://www.itworld.com/security/55954/law-requ
On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 10:56 AM, Eric J Esslinger wrote:
> His response was there is legislation being pushed in both
> House and Senate that would require journalling for 2 or 5
> years, all mail passing through all of your mail servers.
Hi Eric,
The only relatively recent thing I'm aware of i
On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 13:42:50 EST, William Herrin said:
> The really odd thing is that the act also says:
>
> `(2) Access to a record or information required to be retained under
> this subsection may not be compelled by any person or other entity
> that is not a governmental entity.'
>
> What does
'Either way, expiring often is the first and most effective step at making the
lusers hate you and will only bring the Post-It(tm) makers happy.'
If you want to make them really, really unhappy, implement a rotating user ID
coupled with an often expiring password policy. For example, User ID jj
On Jan 5, 2012, at 10:42 AM, William Herrin wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 10:56 AM, Eric J Esslinger
> wrote:
>> His response was there is legislation being pushed in both
>> House and Senate that would require journalling for 2 or 5
>> years, all mail passing through all of your mail servers
On 1/5/12 8:07 , "Jay Ashworth" wrote:
>- Original Message -
>> From: "Zaid Ali"
>
>> On 1/5/12 7:22 AM, "Jay Ashworth" wrote:
>>
>> >Vint Cerf says no: http://j.mp/wwL9Ip
>> >
>
>The question here is "is *access to* the Internet a human right,
>something
>which the government ought t
On Jan 5, 2012, at 2:16 PM, Fred Baker wrote:
>
> On Jan 5, 2012, at 10:42 AM, William Herrin wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 10:56 AM, Eric J Esslinger
>> wrote:
>>> His response was there is legislation being pushed in both
>>> House and Senate that would require journalling for 2 or 5
>
Universal Access vs Universal Service
It is important to understand the difference.
I have argued that Developing countries should only provide Universal
Access as the weight of providing Universal Service is way too expensive
and would tax too much the business community which is developing the
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> On Thursday, 05 January, 2012 08:30, Marshall Eubanks said:
> > On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 4:51 AM, Keith Medcalf wrote:
> > > There is video hosting web sites on the intertubes?
> > > Now where would those be found, I
We are experiencing an issue in NYCMNY where the hosting facility's
owner, a large IXC and CLEC, is being less than cooperative in
allowing the ILEC delivering a private circuit to the hosting
facility. They will allow ILEC to deliver the circuit elsewhere in the
building, but will not provide us a
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> > On Thursday, 05 January, 2012 08:30, Marshall Eubanks said:
>
> > > On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 4:51 AM, Keith Medcalf wrote:
>
> > > > There is video
I know here in NYC, when the government talks, access is defined as
availability, whether utilized or not.
j
On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 11:55 AM, wrote:
> On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 11:09:59 EST, Jay Ashworth said:
>
> > Didn't *say* broadband. Didn't even say "Internet service". Said
> "Internet
> >
Not a new line of thinking for Vint. He said much the same thing at our
INET in NYC. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPc79dlLs0U
What's notable is that as a "father" Vint is more aware than many of the
ephemerality of the Internet, and when speculating futurewise at the INET
he consistently referre
On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 12:11 PM, Green, Timothy
wrote:
> Happy New Year All!!!
>
> I'm trying to perform STIG compliancy on various Cisco equipment. Has
> anybody used the Router Assessment Tool (RAT) for routers and switches? Any
> cheap (free) recommendations? As a last ditch effort I coul
On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 3:21 PM, Keith Medcalf wrote:
>
>> Is H.264 Turing-complete ? Is Ogg-Vorbis ? (It seems like those are
>> the two reasonable open standard choices.))
>
> Okay by me. Just no "Flash Video Streams" if you please.
what about html5?
On Thu, January 5, 2012 11:37 am, Zaid Ali wrote:
>
> If I wrote a blog article that criticized the government and it was
> shutdown along with my Internet access I wouldn't say that my right to the
> Internet was violated. I would say that my right to free speech was
> violated. Regardless of one
Hi there,
Has anybody experience about running and OSS System in enterprise level?
And do you have any idea about it?
For example for an ISP who is running users more than 20K or 30K, there
must be some good solutions to integrate all systems like:
Radius, Billing Systems and CRM
For example after
On 5 Jan 2012, at 22:02, "Shahab Vahabzadeh" wrote:
> Hi there,
> Has anybody experience about running and OSS System in enterprise level?
> And do you have any idea about it?
> For example for an ISP who is running users more than 20K or 30K, there
> must be some good solutions to integrate al
Dear Leigh,
Thanks for you answer, So you recommend radiator?
What about analyses, you know always thinking about billing systems with
staffs who does not have any idea about backend is hard ...
You always have problems with operators and they make lots of exceptions,
Is'nt it?
And if you have time
On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 7:56 AM, Eric J Esslinger wrote:
>
> (I am speaking specifically of full email journaling, not just logs, which
> I do archive for significant amounts of time.)
>
> I also don't want to discuss the pros, cons, merits, costs, goods, or
> evils of such a requirement, just want
Sorry if someone said this but I think it's interesting that the first
amendment to the US Constitution specifically lists freedom of speech
AND freedom of press, rather than perhaps allowing one (speech) to
imply the other (press, i.e., that speech fixed to a medium.)
If we use that as a signfic
There are no such rights. Each positive right is somebody else's
obligation.
Being forced to feed, clothe, and house somebody else is called slavery. So
is providing Internet access, TV, or whatever else. Doesn't matter if
this slavery
is part-time, the principle remains the same -- some people
> There are no such rights. Each positive right is somebody else's obligation.
> Being forced to feed, clothe, and house somebody else is called slavery. So is
> providing Internet access, TV, or whatever else. Doesn't matter if this
> slavery
> is part-time, the principle remains the same -- some
I would love to ask the EFF just what you do when you don't log stuff,
and then need to troubleshoot someone causing a DDoS or something from
your network in a hurry.
Not that I'd get any sort of a useful answer from them, beyond random
propaganda that spam filtering is evil, DPI is demoniacal etc
On Fri, 06 Jan 2012 09:11:30 +0530, Suresh Ramasubramanian said:
> I would love to ask the EFF just what you do when you don't log stuff,
> and then need to troubleshoot someone causing a DDoS or something from
> your network in a hurry.
What John actually said:
> OSPs cannot be forced to provide
There's no shortage of stuff that reaches you 80..90 days after the fact
The UK voluntary retention rules make a lot more sense, compared to "a
few days", which is entirely impractical
On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 9:30 AM, wrote:
>
> You need to track down a miscreant user *right now*? You got the la
The analogy that occurs to me is to roads. People generally have a
right of free movement, which implies that if they are capable of
using roads (e.g., if they have a car and can drive it), then they
should be generally free to do so, certain reasonable legal
constraints notwithstanding. And in t
Nathan Eisenberg wrote:
There are no such rights. Each positive right is somebody else's obligation.
This is antisocial nonsense.
If you want to be a slave, that's your right. But leave me out of your
schemes, please. May I ask you to remove the guns and violence your
"representatives" are
I could be mistaken but I think similar circumstances were what originally
led to the establishment of Telx's IXP at 60 Hudson.
j
On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 3:42 PM, Christopher J. Pilkington wrote:
> We are experiencing an issue in NYCMNY where the hosting facility's
> owner, a large IXC and CLEC,
Subject: Re: anycast load balancing issue Date: Thu, Jan 05, 2012 at 04:12:33PM
+0100 Quoting Johannes Resch (j...@xor.at):
> >Any clues?
> Since you mention route-reflector route selection - are you already
> using per-VRF, per-PE route distinguishers for that L3VPN instance?
Problem solved -
> We are experiencing an issue in NYCMNY where the hosting facility's
> owner, a large IXC and CLEC, is being less than cooperative in
> allowing the ILEC delivering a private circuit to the hosting
> facility.
move to a carrier-neutral facility. unless you do that, the beatings
will continue.
r
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