Re: What do you do when your Home ISP is down?

2011-08-27 Thread Grant Moritz
I work on the Helpdesk for the ISP I have at home and since *most* of them are fairly compotent I'd just call up or just head into work and do it myself. Then again I can't remember the last time I had to call them for a problem that was actually on their network. On the flip side we get the occas

Re: New Natural Disaster! 8/27/2011 Hurricane Irene

2011-08-27 Thread Jeff Shultz
On 8/26/2011 9:07 PM, Majdi S. Abbas wrote: DISCUSS! Personally, I was very happy to hear that Equinix had laid in stores of MREs, and so, with luck, nobody we know there will have to resort to cannibalism or being cannibalized. (Although they may wish they had, depending on the age and typ

RE: New Natural Disaster! 8/27/2011 Hurricane Irene

2011-08-27 Thread Paul Stewart
>MRE's? In an enclosed space? For an extended period? >Time to implement the new Marine Rule of Engagement - no audible farting. >Hopefully they've gotten rid of the "bean component" ones. The audible ones are usually the ones you need to worry about ;)

Re: New Natural Disaster! 8/27/2011 Hurricane Irene

2011-08-27 Thread Robert Bonomi
> From nanog-bounces+bonomi=mail.r-bonomi@nanog.org Fri Aug 26 21:58:30 > 2011 > Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 21:56:48 -0500 > From: Charles N Wyble > To: nanog@nanog.org > Subject: Re: New Natural Disaster! 8/27/2011 Hurricane Irene > > On 08/26/2011 09:51 PM, Scott Morris wrote: > > Did you have

Re: Level 3 Peering Guidelines

2011-08-27 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Aug 26, 2011, at 11:10 PM, wrote: > On Fri, 26 Aug 2011 21:32:00 EDT, "Patrick W. Gilmore" said: >> Next time Cogent de-peers someone, customers do not care who was being >> more reasonable. They care that their links are broken. > > Wouldn't that mostly affect people who are silly enough to

Re: New Natural Disaster! 8/27/2011 Hurricane Irene

2011-08-27 Thread Paul Graydon
Sure, but it's not appropriately filtered to avoid contaminants, spikes and dips in the flow. Paul On 8/27/2011 6:16 AM, Kenton A. Hoover wrote: The hurricane provides its own redundant water. Text and URLs mangled by theiPhone Kenton A. Hoover +1.415.830.5843 ken...@nemersonhoover.org On A

Re: New Natural Disaster! 8/27/2011 Hurricane Irene

2011-08-27 Thread Kauto Huopio
Interesting, Con Edison planning preemptive power outages..including financial district.. http://www.wnyc.org/blogs/wnyc-news-blog/2011/aug/27/con-ed-braces-hurricane-irene/ -- Kauto Huopio - ka...@huopio.fi

Re: New Natural Disaster! 8/27/2011 Hurricane Irene

2011-08-27 Thread Sean Donelan
On Sat, 27 Aug 2011, Kauto Huopio wrote: Interesting, Con Edison planning preemptive power outages..including financial district.. http://www.wnyc.org/blogs/wnyc-news-blog/2011/aug/27/con-ed-braces-hurricane-irene/ A mis-interpretation of "what-if" plans. A shutdown in the area would occur o

Re: Level 3 Peering Guidelines

2011-08-27 Thread Adam Rothschild
What are thoughts on public disclosure limited to capacity constraints? There is ample business reason for making the terms of specific interconnects private. On the other hand, knowing definitively that {mon,du}opoly broadband provider A is running its connections to transit provider B hot could

Re: What do you do when your Home ISP is down?

2011-08-27 Thread Matthew Petach
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 10:39 AM, Ariel Biener wrote: >  On 08/18/2011 08:30 PM, PC wrote: >> My solution?  Pull out the smartphone and tether if I really need to get >> on the web. > > Or connect to the neighbors unprotected wifi... :) > > --Ariel I can't believe that snuck past without anyone t

Re: Level 3 Peering Guidelines

2011-08-27 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Sat, 27 Aug 2011 13:56:35 EDT, "Patrick W. Gilmore" said: > And the customers still don't care. They just care _that_ it affected > them - at least during the problem. Although one can hope they care > enough to change their behavior afterward. And yet, people still single-home to Tier-1s. Go

Re: Level 3 Peering Guidelines

2011-08-27 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 8/27/11 5:30 PM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: > On Sat, 27 Aug 2011 13:56:35 EDT, "Patrick W. Gilmore" said: >> And the customers still don't care. They just care _that_ it >> affected them - at least during the problem. Although one can >> hope they care enough to change their behavior afte

Re: New Natural Disaster! 8/27/2011 Hurricane Irene

2011-08-27 Thread Joe Greco
> On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 09:55:10PM -0400, Andrew Kirch wrote: > > The US Airforce has sent most of the fighters from the East Coast to > > Indiana, what are you doing to prepare for the storm of the next 2 days? > > > > Ready, Set, DISCUSS! > > Personally, I was very happy to hear that Eq

Re: Level 3 Peering Guidelines

2011-08-27 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Aug 27, 2011, at 8:30 PM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: > On Sat, 27 Aug 2011 13:56:35 EDT, "Patrick W. Gilmore" said: >> And the customers still don't care. They just care _that_ it affected >> them - at least during the problem. Although one can hope they care >> enough to change their beha