Re: IPv6 and DNS

2011-06-13 Thread Karl Auer
On Mon, 2011-06-13 at 11:16 +1000, Matthew Palmer wrote: > Why were you letting such ill-configured clients register themselves in your > DNS? Some environments have a lot of control over individual hosts, and perhaps for such an environment, allowing hosts to register themselves would not be a pr

Re: ip 6 questions

2011-06-13 Thread isabel dias
http://www.juniper.net/techpubs/software/erx/junose61/swconfig-routing-vol2/html/bgp-mpls-vpns-config15.html http://fengnet.com/book/Definitive%20MPLS%20Network%20Designs/ch01lev1sec6.html http://www.armware.dk/RFC/rfc/rfc4798.html http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/routers/crs/software/crs_r4.

Re: IPv6 day non-participants

2011-06-13 Thread Wes Hardaker
> On Thu, 9 Jun 2011 12:21:12 -0700, "George B." said: GB> There is a reason for that. First of all, we (my employer) took this GB> as a brief test to simply see how much IPv6 traffic there really was, GB> and who and what would actually attempt to reach us by IPv6. The idea GB> here being

Streaming

2011-06-13 Thread Joe Maimon
Is it just me tearing my hair out?

RE: Streaming

2011-06-13 Thread Paul Stewart
Streaming the Windows version here just fine... -Original Message- From: Joe Maimon [mailto:jmai...@ttec.com] Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 11:43 AM To: North American Networking and Offtopic Gripes List Subject: Streaming Is it just me tearing my hair out?

Re: Streaming

2011-06-13 Thread John Springer
Chromebook Flash 2 working OK in Pacific NW. Some tiling/fuzzing. Audio volume is kinda low. On Mon, 13 Jun 2011, Joe Maimon wrote: Is it just me tearing my hair out?

Re: Streaming

2011-06-13 Thread Joe Maimon
Much better now. Probably was just me. John Springer wrote: Chromebook Flash 2 working OK in Pacific NW. Some tiling/fuzzing. Audio volume is kinda low. On Mon, 13 Jun 2011, Joe Maimon wrote: Is it just me tearing my hair out?

Re: Yup; the Internet is screwed up.

2011-06-13 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - > From: "Chris Adams" > Well, the OTA providers are doing it to the network feeds first, so I > don't see focusing on the cable providers doing it to the OTA providers > as the sole source of quality issues. The OTA providers also reencode > to add bugs, weather/break

ATM Cell Capture File Request

2011-06-13 Thread Kenneth M. Chipps Ph.D.
I need a capture file that can be opened in Wireshark that shows ATM cells to illustrate some lecture notes. The file the Wireshark site has does not show any detail for ATM, despite the file name. A search has uncovered no other file. GNS3 does not support ATM link captures. If anyone has such a

Re: Yup; the Internet is screwed up.

2011-06-13 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 6/12/11 2:22 AM, Don Gould wrote: > 100mbit is not luxury, it's something my business needs all it's > customers to have to drive more uptake of my services. > > My customers already have 10/1 today. Now I need them to have 100/40 so > they have a reason to buy other CPE that in turn drives my

Re: Yup; the Internet is screwed up.

2011-06-13 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Jay Ashworth said: > TTBOMK, no, the affils don't actually reencode the whole feed; there are > boxes these days that can insert your bug without trashing the rest of > the stream -- and I think their contract with the network *requires* them > to run their primary streams as-h

bgp feed to customer

2011-06-13 Thread Richard Zheng
Hi, This is probably a typical setup for border router not speaking BGP, wonder how to handle it properly. Border router B is connected with customer router C. Router C wants default-only/partial/full routes. Router B can't or is not willing to handle it. Router C has a multihop EBGP session with

Re: Yup; the Internet is screwed up.

2011-06-13 Thread Joel Jaeggli
On Jun 12, 2011, at 10:04 AM, Christopher J. Pilkington wrote: > On Jun 11, 2011, at 7:07 PM, Roy wrote: > >> On 6/11/2011 4:29 PM, Christopher Pilkington wrote: >>> Options seem to be limited to HughesNet and dial for the moment, but >>> things may change if I put a tower on the property. Hughe

Re: bgp feed to customer

2011-06-13 Thread Iljitsch van Beijnum
On 13 jun 2011, at 19:25, Richard Zheng wrote: > The issue is redistribution from EBGP to OSPF works half way. OSPF database > has the external routes, but forwarding address is set to Router A. So the > routing loop occurs between A and B. If the link to the customer is of a type that detects up

Re: Anyone from Charter on here?

2011-06-13 Thread Mike Lyon
Thank you all for your quick responses! Contact has been made and we are good. Thank You, Mike On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 10:06 PM, Mike Lyon wrote: > Howdy, > > Would someone with network clue at Charter hit me up offlist? Need some > assistance and I can't get past your wonderful support person

Re: Streaming

2011-06-13 Thread Matt Hite
Now if only the slides were the full screen and the talking head was in the corner... otherwise the quality is fantastic! On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 9:19 AM, Joe Maimon wrote: > Much better now. Probably was just me. > > John Springer wrote: >> >> Chromebook Flash 2 working OK in Pacific NW. Some ti

Presentation slides on video feed

2011-06-13 Thread Randy Carpenter
Does anyone know why the presentation slides keep going black after a few minutes for each presenter on the video feed? When a new presenter comes to the podium, their presentation appears, buy always goes black after a while. thanks, -Randy

Re: Streaming

2011-06-13 Thread Joel Jaeggli
The slides are full screen on the FLV video. On Jun 13, 2011, at 11:16 AM, Matt Hite wrote: > Now if only the slides were the full screen and the talking head was > in the corner... otherwise the quality is fantastic! > > On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 9:19 AM, Joe Maimon wrote: >> Much better now. Pr

RE: Streaming

2011-06-13 Thread Paul Stewart
Not the FLV stream I'm watching (http://hidef.mich.net:1234) Big black box in upper left -Original Message- From: Joel Jaeggli [mailto:joe...@bogus.com] Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 2:19 PM To: Matt Hite Cc: North American Networking and Offtopic Gripes List Subject: Re: Streaming The sl

Re: bgp feed to customer

2011-06-13 Thread William Herrin
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 1:25 PM, Richard Zheng wrote: > This is probably a typical setup for border router not speaking BGP, wonder > how to handle it properly. Border router B is connected with customer router > C. Router C wants default-only/partial/full routes. Router B can't or is not > willin

Re: The stupidity of trying to "fix" DHCPv6

2011-06-13 Thread Ricky Beam
On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 09:45:01 -0400, Leo Bicknell wrote: In a message written on Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 01:04:41PM +0200, Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote: Like I said before, that would pollute the network with many multicasts which can seriously degrade wifi performance. Huh? This is no worse tha

RE: bgp feed to customer

2011-06-13 Thread Jim Gonzalez
-Original Message- From: William Herrin [mailto:b...@herrin.us] Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 3:34 PM To: Richard Zheng Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: bgp feed to customer On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 1:25 PM, Richard Zheng wrote: > This is probably a typical setup for border router not speak

Re: The stupidity of trying to "fix" DHCPv6

2011-06-13 Thread Joel Jaeggli
On Jun 13, 2011, at 12:50 PM, Ricky Beam wrote: > On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 09:45:01 -0400, Leo Bicknell wrote: >> In a message written on Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 01:04:41PM +0200, Iljitsch van >> Beijnum wrote: >>> Like I said before, that would pollute the network with many multicasts >>> which can s

Re: The stupidity of trying to "fix" DHCPv6

2011-06-13 Thread Owen DeLong
On Jun 12, 2011, at 4:01 AM, Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote: > On 11 jun 2011, at 17:05, Owen DeLong wrote: > >>> Your doctor doesn't just give you the medicine you ask for either. > >> You are not talking about a doctor/patient scenario here where the doctor is >> an expert and the people asking

Re: The stupidity of trying to "fix" DHCPv6

2011-06-13 Thread Owen DeLong
On Jun 12, 2011, at 4:04 AM, Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote: > On 12 jun 2011, at 12:35, Daniel Roesen wrote: > >> Could you point to any RFC which implies or explicitly states that >> DHCPv6 MUST NOT be used in absence of RA with M and/or O=1? > > But what's the alternative? Always run DHCPv6 even

RE: The stupidity of trying to "fix" DHCPv6

2011-06-13 Thread Kelly Setzer
> -Original Message- > From: Jimmy Hess [mailto:mysi...@gmail.com] > Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2011 8:43 PM > To: nanog@nanog.org > Subject: Re: The stupidity of trying to "fix" DHCPv6 > > On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 8:29 PM, Leo Bicknell wrote: > > DHCP today uses an exponential backoff if ther

Re: bgp feed to customer

2011-06-13 Thread Richard Zheng
> > > Hi Richard, >Could you run a bgp session on Router B ? I had to do this once for > a customer because we had layer 3 switches on the edge with routing. I > configured 2 BGP sessions at the customer's router. The first session was > between Customer C and Router B. I only sent the def

Re: The stupidity of trying to "fix" DHCPv6

2011-06-13 Thread Owen DeLong
On Jun 12, 2011, at 11:12 AM, Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote: > On 12 jun 2011, at 15:45, Leo Bicknell wrote: > >>> Like I said before, that would pollute the network with many multicasts >>> which can seriously degrade wifi performance. > >> Huh? This is no worse than IPv4 where a host comes up

Re: Question about migrating to IPv6 with multiple upstreams.

2011-06-13 Thread Owen DeLong
The vastly better option is to obtain a prefix and ASN from ARIN and merely trade BGP with your upstream providers. Prefix translation comes with all the same disabilities that are present when you do this in IPv4. In IPv4, everyone's software expects you to have a broken network (NAT) and the

Re: The stupidity of trying to "fix" DHCPv6

2011-06-13 Thread Leo Bicknell
In a message written on Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 05:41:12PM -0700, Owen DeLong wrote: > > The IPv4 host does this once and gets its lease. If there is no DHCPv6 > > server then DHCPv6 clients would keep broadcasting forever. Not a good > > thing. > > > > Which is no worse than the behavior of an I

Re: Question about migrating to IPv6 with multiple upstreams.

2011-06-13 Thread Randy Carpenter
- Original Message - > The vastly better option is to obtain a prefix and ASN from ARIN and > merely trade BGP with your > upstream providers. This is precisely what we are doing on the main network. We just want to keep the general browsing traffic separated. > Prefix translation comes

RE: The stupidity of trying to "fix" DHCPv6

2011-06-13 Thread Kelly Setzer
> -Original Message- > From: Leo Bicknell [mailto:bickn...@ufp.org] > Sent: Monday, June 13, 2011 7:55 PM > To: nanog@nanog.org > Subject: Re: The stupidity of trying to "fix" DHCPv6 > [snip] > I understand on some level why the IETF doesn't want DHCPv4 to be able to hand > out IPv6 stuff

Re: Question about migrating to IPv6 with multiple upstreams.

2011-06-13 Thread Joel Maslak
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 6:59 PM, Randy Carpenter wrote: This is precisely what we are doing on the main network. We just want to > keep the general browsing traffic separated. > If you're worried about browsing traffic and not worried about occasional other things slipping through, set up Squid

Re: The stupidity of trying to "fix" DHCPv6

2011-06-13 Thread Owen DeLong
On Jun 12, 2011, at 6:42 PM, Jimmy Hess wrote: > On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 8:29 PM, Leo Bicknell wrote: >> DHCP today uses an exponential backoff if there is no response, I don't >> see why that can't be kept in IPv6. Plus I wonder how long users would >> keep on machines that get no useable netw

Re: Question about migrating to IPv6 with multiple upstreams.

2011-06-13 Thread William Herrin
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 8:48 PM, Owen DeLong wrote: > The vastly better option is to obtain a prefix and ASN from ARIN and merely > trade BGP with your > upstream providers. My "(cheap) cable modem for general browsing" provider wouldn't even delegate RDNS; they'd only put PTRs in *their* server

Re: Yup; the Internet is screwed up.

2011-06-13 Thread Don Gould
* 2.5GPON isn't symmetric. * DSL and cable can be symmetric. * Business reasons - providers don't want you hosting content at home, they want you hosting content in their data centers so they can charge for that space. So when a provider gets a 100/100 from a telco, it uses 90/10 dl to feed it