Does anyone happen to know what Microsoft using to delivery Hotmail?
Is it Exchange? Can anyone recommend a good system for developing web
mail services? I need something that can easy support 400K users
400k is easy enough to do with either high end enterprise or low end
carrier grade products.
Or if you have the patience to do it, open source ftw.
The MTA isn't the criterion here as much as all the other stuff -
bandwidth, storage, directory services, security / antispam ...
--srs
On Wed, Jun
I'm observing our netflow of the ipv6 address-family from nodes where we're
capable. It's not that interesting actually. I've seen larger spikes than
what we're seeing [so far].
Akamai has a realtime IPv6 stats page as well here:
http://www.akamai.com/ipv6
You can check out the hits/second p
If you already have MS Exchange just use OWA (outlook web access)
feature to enable webaccess. but like suresh said its storage,
directory services and mail traffic that matters most.
regards
syed.
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 10:23 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian
wrote:
> 400k is easy enough to do with ei
I would think licensing would be a large fee with any enterprise type product.
I wonder what the bandwidth requirements would be.
Cheers
Ryan
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From: Suresh Ramasubramanian [mailto:ops.li...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 10:24 PM
To: Santino Codispoti
Cc: na
We do not have Exchange this would be for a consumer e-mail service
that is ad supported.
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 10:28 PM, Syed Waqqas Ahmed
wrote:
> If you already have MS Exchange just use OWA (outlook web access)
> feature to enable webaccess. but like suresh said its storage,
> directory serv
In which case, your best bet is to hire some sort of consultant to
build it for you
Or to outsource it to one of several white label providers who will
host it and run it for you.
--srs
On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 8:01 AM, Santino Codispoti
wrote:
> We do not have Exchange this would be for a consum
Microsoft had a product that try targeted to the service provider segment I do
not know if they still offer it.
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-Original Message-
From: Santino Codispoti
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 10:31 PM
To: Syed Waqqas Ahmed
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Hotmail?
What about starting with Zimbra's Open Source edition, and building onto it?
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 9:13 PM, Santino Codispoti <
santino.codisp...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Does anyone happen to know what Microsoft using to delivery Hotmail?
> Is it Exchange? Can anyone recommend a good system for dev
On 6/7/2011 9:01 PM, Lorenzo Colitti wrote:
On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 11:24 PM, Owen DeLong wrote:
Moving them to IPv6 and hoping that enough of the content providers
move forward fast enough to minimize the extent of the LSN deployment
required.
The problem here is not content, it's access. Lo
That's what Yahoo uses right?
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-Original Message-
From: John LeCoque
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 11:14 PM
To: Santino Codispoti
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Hotmail?
What about starting with Zimbra's Open Source edition, and building onto it?
On Tue, Jun 7
That still doesnt address the storage, security other than antispam /
antivirus etc :)
If he's got to ask how to build it ..
On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 8:44 AM, John LeCoque wrote:
> What about starting with Zimbra's Open Source edition, and building onto it?
--
Suresh Ramasubramanian (ops.li...@
Thanks for the link Jared.
I wonder how many eye-balls are really enabled to reach the IPv6
sites. Akamai's site doesn't show very impressive numbers, trying to
figure why 300ms latency and >4% packet loss ?
-J
I'd imagine that some technology from Zimbra made it into Yahoo Mail, and
vice versa. For a while, Yahoo owned Zimbra, but it's a VMWare product right
now.
I know that Zimbra will scale well. How exactly you scale Zimbra would
depend in part on whether you choose to go with the FOSS version, or wi
> What about starting with Zimbra's Open Source edition, and building onto
> it?
>
Let me just step in here and say.. it's tough to build onto Zimbra. At
work, we support ~1000 users on Zimbra (network edition), with hundreds of
thousands of messages flowing through daily, and it doesn't like you
On Jun 7, 2011, at 11:31 PM, Jorge Amodio wrote:
> Thanks for the link Jared.
>
> I wonder how many eye-balls are really enabled to reach the IPv6
> sites. Akamai's site doesn't show very impressive numbers, trying to
> figure why 300ms latency and >4% packet loss ?
My guess is it's over the e
I was wondering the same thing... we have v6 enabled to about 700 users in
our native Ethernet to the home deployment here in Seattle.Unfortunately,
user routers don't seem to often support v6 resulting in only about 2-8% of
users in most buildings using it, and most of those are just peop
On Jun 7, 2011, at 7:01 PM, Lorenzo Colitti wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 11:24 PM, Owen DeLong wrote:
> Moving them to IPv6 and hoping that enough of the content providers
> move forward fast enough to minimize the extent of the LSN deployment
> required.
>
> The problem here is not content,
Can you customize the interface of OWA that much?
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-Original Message-
From: Syed Waqqas Ahmed
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 10:28 PM
To: Suresh Ramasubramanian
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Hotmail?
If you already have MS Exchange just use OWA (outlook web acc
In message , John van Oppen writes:
> I was wondering the same thing... we have v6 enabled to about 700 users i=
> n our native Ethernet to the home deployment here in Seattle.Unfortunat=
> ely, user routers don't seem to often support v6 resulting in only about 2-=
> 8% of users in most bui
ISOC Hong Kong has a great World IPv6 Day event - Kickstart IPv6! -
starting at 2pm HKT = 0600UTC (around an hour from now) and
running 3 and a half hours.
It will be webcast live via the ISOC Chapters Livestream Channel on the
ISOC-HK site - http://isoc.hk
Please take time to watch and make co
Owen,
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 11:47 PM, Owen DeLong wrote:
> LSN is required when access providers come across the following two
> combined constraints:
>
> 1. No more IPv4 addresses to give to customers.
> 2. No ability to deploy those customers on IPv6.
2 has little bear
Some sites still require ipv4 to load properly (stylesheets, statics,
etc)
disable ipv4 on your machine and go to:
http://www.facebook.com
http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/
http://www.yahoo.com/
I guess it is a start though.
That what I found with most the open source /Linux mail products that
customizing and extending can be difficult and a lot of time and effort.
The exchange is one of the easiest ways to roll out large scale web base
email if just expensive in upfront costs.
Interns of Hotmail they init
Have a look at the Hermes mail system at cam.Ac.uk, built buy among
people Philip Hazel of exam fame
It will give you some insight into the challenges of building a
scalable high perfomance mail system.
Martin
On Wednesday, 8 June 2011, Steve Spence wrote:
>
>
> That what I found with most the
The title of this ongoing thread is giving me heart palpitations.
Content access over IPv6 may help "justify" ISPs investing in IPv6, but it in
no means is a prerequisite technically.
LSNs are "fine" when deployed in parallel with IPv6 IMHO. There has to be a
pathway to "good" networking.
To
That's one of several classic papers - another by Yann Golanski from
about a decade back, also using Exim
On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 11:08 AM, Martin Hepworth wrote:
> Have a look at the Hermes mail system at cam.Ac.uk, built buy among
> people Philip Hazel of exam fame
>
> It will give you some insi
On 8 jun 2011, at 7:42, Christopher Palmer wrote:
> I'm not an ISP - but I absolutely expect that IPv6 roll-outs have long
> time-horizons and are fairly complex. So I hope folks are looking at IPv6
> NOW, and not simply waiting for Google/Bing/Yahoo/Interwebz to enable
> permanent content acce
Anyone tried:
http://www.zarafa.com/
??
> -Original Message-
> From: Ryan Finnesey [mailto:ryan.finne...@harrierinvestments.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 8:51 PM
> To: Syed Waqqas Ahmed; Suresh Ramasubramanian
> Cc: nanog@nanog.org
> Subject: RE: Hotmail?
>
> Can you customize t
On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 00:59, Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote:
> BTW, how are you guys dealing with path MTU discovery for IPv6? I've seen a
> few sites that have problems with this, such as www.nist.gov, >
Speaking of www.nist.gov, I am getting the front page to load, but all
links are returning a
On 06/07/11 22:00, Joly MacFie wrote:
ISOC Hong Kong has a great World IPv6 Day event - Kickstart IPv6! -
starting at 2pm HKT = 0600UTC (around an hour from now) and
running 3 and a half hours.
It will be webcast live via the ISOC Chapters Livestream Channel on the
ISOC-HK site - http://isoc.h
* Jay Ashworth (j...@baylink.com) wrote:
> - Original Message -
> > From: "Matt Ryanczak"
>
> > Indeed. Verizon LTE is v6 enabled but the user-agent on my phone
> > denies me an IPv6 experience.
>
> I thought I'd heard that LTE transport was *IPv6 only*...
LTE supports both IPv4 and IPv
On 8 jun 2011, at 8:15, Andrew Koch wrote:
> Speaking of www.nist.gov, I am getting the front page to load, but all
> links are returning a 404 Not Found when browsing via v6
Right. They seem to have solved their PMTUD issues, though.
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