Re: Rogers Canada using 7.0.0.0/8 for internal address space

--- wavetos...@googlemail.com wrote: So we should CONDONE such borrowing and recommend a couple of /8s to use in North America. Perhaps one could be DOD for those operators Yes, so it turns IPv4 into such a big steaming pile that every one goes to IPv6

Re: Netflix Is Eating Up More Of North America's Bandwidth Than Any Other Company

See also: UK efforts http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prestel j On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 12:04 AM, Max wrote: > On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 10:48 PM, Steven Bellovin > wrote: > > It was TBS, in the 1980s: > http://web.archive.org/web/19981203103811/www.stargate.co

Re: Netflix Is Eating Up More Of North America's Bandwidth Than Any Other Company

> From nanog-bounces+bonomi=mail.r-bonomi@nanog.org Tue May 24 22:12:57 > 2011 > Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 23:12:41 -0400 > Subject: Re: Netflix Is Eating Up More Of North America's Bandwidth Than Any > Other Company > From: Christopher Morrow > To: nanog@nanog.org > > On Tue, May 24, 201

Re: Netflix Is Eating Up More Of North America's Bandwidth Than Any Other Company

> From nanog-bounces+bonomi=mail.r-bonomi@nanog.org Tue May 24 22:19:18 > 2011 > Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 23:14:56 -0400 (EDT) > From: Jay Ashworth > To: NANOG > Subject: Re: Netflix Is Eating Up More Of North America's Bandwidth Than Any > Other Company > > - Original Message -

Re: Netflix Is Eating Up More Of North America's Bandwidth Than Any Other Company

> > So... would this have been feasible today? given the bandwidth required > > to send a full feed these days, i suspect likely not, eh? (even if you > > were able to do it on all 500+ channels in parallel) > > On the financial side, it is trivial. The opposite, the bits were paid for but unus

Re: Netflix Is Eating Up More Of North America's Bandwidth Than Any Other Company

- Original Message - > From: "Robert Bonomi" > As I understand it, a current USENET 'full feed', including binaries, take > two dedicated 100mbit FDX fast ethernet links, and they are saturated _most_ > of the day. At that rate, A full day of TV vertical interval transmission > wuould han

Re: Netflix Is Eating Up More Of North America's Bandwidth Than Any Other Company

- Original Message - > From: "Brandon Butterworth" > > On the financial side, it is trivial. > > The opposite, the bits were paid for but unused back then so > financially it was worth using them. In digital tv every bit has a use > and so a cost, hence they are used for more TV channels

AT&T Opti-man Dallas down

The Dallas area had a round of storms go through last night. Looks like this morning's flaming bag on the front porch was AT&T's "OptiMan" metro-E service was down. Can anyone confirm that this was a wide outage and not just a single customer? Any details released?

Re Netflix Is Eating Up More Of North America's Bandwidth Than Any Other Company

> From bran...@rd.bbc.co.uk Wed May 25 04:21:13 2011 > Date: Wed, 25 May 2011 10:19:09 +0100 (BST) > From: Brandon Butterworth > To: morrowc.li...@gmail.com, nanog@nanog.org, bon...@mail.r-bonomi.com > Subject: Re: Netflix Is Eating Up More Of North America's Bandwidth Than Any > Other Comp

blocking annoying 'bounce mail' "feature" from customers use.

Mac Mail (and others) have a "feature" that allows my customers to generate a fake NDR message and send it back through my server. I get about a customer every few months that discovers this 'solution' to spam emails, and when it happens they cause delivery problems for my customer mail server b

Re: blocking annoying 'bounce mail' "feature" from customers use.

On 5/25/11 9:09 AM, Eric J Esslinger wrote: > Mac Mail (and others) have a "feature" that allows my customers to generate a > fake NDR message and send it back through my server. I get about a customer > every few months that discovers this 'solution' to spam emails, and when it > happens they c

Re: blocking annoying 'bounce mail' "feature" from customers use.

On 2011-May-25 18:09, Eric J Esslinger wrote: [..] > Does anyone know of a way for me to block the following, using > postfix, either via refusing to accept the mail or by dropping it in > /dev/null: Mail from <> or postmaster that originates within our > customer IP blocks/is sent using authentica

Re: Netflix Is Eating Up More Of North America's Bandwidth Than Any Other Company

On 05/24/2011 11:12 PM, Christopher Morrow wrote: On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 10:48 PM, Lou Katz wrote: An "elegant" idea, done in by changing technology. *sigh* As USENIX director I sponsored and sheparded this project, called "Stargate". We at least got bits into the blanking in

Re: Re Netflix Is Eating Up More Of North America's Bandwidth Than Any Other Company

While not material to the technical discussion, I would point out that it is doubtful any large corp. would want to distro full USENET these days given the legal implications - see http://isoc-ny.org/?p=252 - mind you Cuomo is otherwise engaged these days. j > > Yes, you *CAN* engineer a "com

Re: AT&T Opti-man Dallas down

Yes, we lost all our Opteman circuits in Dallas from roughly 8:30AM to 10:30AM Central. The cause communicated to us from AT&T was: "the router took a hit and the SUP Card failed which resulted in our outage" our Opteman circuits in Houston were not impacted. Nikos On Wed, 25 May 2011, Tim

Re: Rogers Canada using 7.0.0.0/8 for internal address space

On May 24, 2011, at 8:22 PM, Jeremy wrote: > As long as necessary precautions are taken (route filters, tunnels, VRF's) > shouldn't this be technically feasible without any negative ramifications? Any? Debatable. Doing stuff like this has costs, but I suspect the folks at Rogers aren't idiots and

Re: Rogers Canada using 7.0.0.0/8 for internal address space

On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 1:25 AM, Michael Dillon wrote: > So we should CONDONE such borrowing and recommend a couple of /8s to > use in North America. Perhaps one could be DOD for those operators > that do not carry any DOD traffic and one could be that /8 from > Softbank Japan, 126/8 if I recall i

where are all the IPv6 tools?

Hi, I depend on a number of shell tools for manipulating IPv4 addresses, CIDR blocks, etc. like: aggis ipsort.pl grepcidr aggregate I have not yet found much in terms of similar shell utilities for IPv6. I've spoken to authors of some of these tools and they admit they have not yet produced

Re: where are all the IPv6 tools?

On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 11:54 AM, Jay Borkenhagen wrote: > Hi, > > I depend on a number of shell tools for manipulating IPv4 addresses, > CIDR blocks, etc. like: > >  aggis >  ipsort.pl >  grepcidr >  aggregate > > I have not yet found much in terms of similar shell utilities for > IPv6.  I've spo

Re: Rogers Canada using 7.0.0.0/8 for internal address space

> From nanog-bounces+bonomi=mail.r-bonomi@nanog.org Wed May 25 13:44:21 > 2011 > Date: Wed, 25 May 2011 14:43:24 -0400 > Subject: Re: Rogers Canada using 7.0.0.0/8 for internal address space > From: Christopher Pilkington > To: Michael Dillon > Cc: NANOG > > On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 1:25 AM

Re: where are all the IPv6 tools?

I'm addicted to sipcalc: http://www.routemeister.net/projects/sipcalc/ It's available on standard repositories for MacPorts, Ubuntu, Debian and Fedora. I guess install is straightforward in other platforms as well. regards Carlos On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 4:29 PM, Kyle Duren wrote: > On Wed, May

Re: Rogers Canada using 7.0.0.0/8 for internal address space

On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 02:43:24PM -0400, Christopher Pilkington wrote: > On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 1:25 AM, Michael Dillon > wrote: > > So we should CONDONE such borrowing and recommend a couple of /8s to > > use in North America. Perhaps one could be DOD for those operators > > that do not carry a

Re: where are all the IPv6 tools?

On 5/25/2011 3:29 PM, Kyle Duren wrote: > On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 11:54 AM, Jay Borkenhagen wrote: >> >> Do folks here know of IPv6 tools that might provide some of the >> functions the above tools provide for IPv4? >> > > I recommend IPv6gen. > > http://code.google.com/p/ipv6gen/ > > Very usef

Re: where are all the IPv6 tools?

On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 3:29 PM, Kyle Duren wrote: > On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 11:54 AM, Jay Borkenhagen wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I depend on a number of shell tools for manipulating IPv4 addresses, >> CIDR blocks, etc. like: >> >>  aggis >>  ipsort.pl >>  grepcidr >>  aggregate >> >> I have not yet fou

RE: where are all the IPv6 tools?

We use the IPAM tool by 6connect.net, not sure if that is what you are looking for exactly? -Mike -Original Message- From: chip [mailto:chip.g...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2011 3:40 PM To: Kyle Duren Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: where are all the IPv6 tools? On Wed, May

Re: Rogers Canada using 7.0.0.0/8 for internal address space

On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 02:43:24PM -0400, Christopher Pilkington wrote: > On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 1:25 AM, Michael Dillon > wrote: > > So we should CONDONE such borrowing and recommend a couple of /8s to > > use in North America. Perhaps one could be DOD for those operators > > that do not carry a

Re: Rogers Canada using 7.0.0.0/8 for internal address space

Does it make sense that ham radio operators have routable IP address space any longer? Yes. Keep your mitts off 44!

Re: Rogers Canada using 7.0.0.0/8 for internal address space

On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 4:24 PM, wrote: >        NOTE WELL - Just because -you- (for values of you) see no value in >        space assigned, does NOT give you the right to hijack said space >        for your own purposes.   Nor does it look well  for you to advocate >        hijacking someone els

Re: Re Netflix Is Eating Up More Of North America's Bandwidth Than Any Other Company

> You demonstrate you have no understanding of what the word 'feasable' > means. OK, but we actually did this as a commercial service on analogue TV and we deliver non picture data on digital TV (satellite and terrestrial) today, it's just not USENET data. > One _cannot_ do this with 'modern' dig

Re: Rogers Canada using 7.0.0.0/8 for internal address space

On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 2:23 PM, Christopher Pilkington wrote: > > Indeed, arbitrary is arbitrary, be it ham radio operators or the DoD. > I was trolling hams on the list there, my apologies. FWIW, my box > 44.68.16.20 hasn't been up in well over a decade. Would have been > nice if that packet r

Re: Re Netflix Is Eating Up More Of North America's Bandwidth Than Any Other Company

On Thu, 26 May 2011 02:08:04 BST, Brandon Butterworth said: > > One _cannot_ do this with 'modern' digital TV trasmission, because the > > _end-to-end_ technolgy does not support it. > > Apologies for disagreeing, but this is exactly what the modern > technology does. > Digital TV (ATSC in your

Re: Re Netflix Is Eating Up More Of North America's Bandwidth Than Any Other Company

- Original Message - > From: "Brandon Butterworth" > > You demonstrate you have no understanding of what the word > > 'feasable' means. > > OK, but we actually did this as a commercial service on analogue TV and > we deliver non picture data on digital TV (satellite and terrestrial) > to

Re: [outages] Level 3 core router in Chicago down?

- Original Message - > On 5/25/2011 11:25 PM, Brooks Bridges wrote: > > We just lost a bunch of routes out of Chicago over Level 3. > > > > Seems to be dying at edge routers right before their core. > > > > 1. XXX 0.0% 10 0.5 0.4 > > 0.3 0.6 0.1 > Of course, as soon as I hit

Re: [outages] Level 3 core router in Chicago down?

We saw it too. The paths are back up but the latency is higher suggesting that it is on a re-routed path. Their helpdesk is saying it is a planned maintenance. - Gaurav On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 10:28 AM, Jay Ashworth wrote: > - Original Message - > > On 5/25/2011 11:25 PM, Brooks Brid

Re: where are all the IPv6 tools?

The PERL Net::IP module provides a basis that would make it fairly easy to implement most of those and does fully support both IPv4 and IPv6. IIRC, those tools predated Net::IP, so, re-implementing them from scratch using Net::IP might be both cleaner and easier. Owen On May 25, 2011, at 11:54 A

Re: Rogers Canada using 7.0.0.0/8 for internal address space

On May 25, 2011, at 11:43 AM, Christopher Pilkington wrote: > On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 1:25 AM, Michael Dillon > wrote: >> So we should CONDONE such borrowing and recommend a couple of /8s to >> use in North America. Perhaps one could be DOD for those operators >> that do not carry any DOD traffi

Re: Rogers Canada using 7.0.0.0/8 for internal address space

On May 25, 2011, at 2:23 PM, Christopher Pilkington wrote: > On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 4:24 PM, wrote: >>NOTE WELL - Just because -you- (for values of you) see no value in >>space assigned, does NOT give you the right to hijack said space >>for your own purposes. Nor doe

Re: Rogers Canada using 7.0.0.0/8 for internal address space

On May 26, 2011, at 7:35 AM, Owen DeLong wrote: >> > > Unfortunately, the FCC hasn't really allowed us to since it would be very > hard to produce useful bandwidth by today's standards within the bounds > of the spectrum we are allowed to use and the channel separations we > are allowed to use.

Re: Re Netflix Is Eating Up More Of North America's Bandwidth Than Any Other Company

> Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 02:08:04 +0100 (BST) > From: Brandon Butterworth > Subject: Re: Re Netflix Is Eating Up More Of North America's Bandwidth Than > Any > Other Company > > > You demonstrate you have no understanding of what the word 'feasable' > > means. > > OK, but we actually did t