- Original Message -
> From: "Leo Bicknell"
> After looking at many models I think Australia might be on to
> something. The model is that a quasi-government monopoly provides
> the last mile physical wire, but is unable to sell services on it.
> Basically they only provide UNE's. Then, a
- Original Message -
> From: "JC Dill"
> On 19/12/10 8:31 PM, Chris Adams wrote:
> > Look up pictures of New York City in the early days of electricty.
> > There were streets where you couldn't hardly see the sky because of
> > all
> > the wires on the poles.
> >
> Can you provide a link
On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 10:03, Jay Ashworth wrote:
> - Original Message -
>> From: "JC Dill"
>
>> On 19/12/10 8:31 PM, Chris Adams wrote:
>> > Look up pictures of New York City in the early days of electricty.
>> > There were streets where you couldn't hardly see the sky because of
>> > a
On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 10:14, Andrew Koch wrote:
> Those look more like power lines, with a substation in the background.
Helps to read the whole thing; you were talking about power lines. I
missed a few messages when this took a turn off from last mile
communications access.
Anyway, found on
- Original Message -
> From: "Robert Bonomi"
> "Overbuild" is practical *ONLY* where: (a) the population density is
> high,lowering 'per customer' costs, and (b) service 'penetration' is high
> enough that the active subscriber base (as distinct from 'potential'
> subscribers) sufficient
I was poking around to see what the current received wisdom was as to
average install cost per building for suburban municipal home-run fiber,
and ran across this article, which discusses the topic, and itemizes
several large such deployments that "failed" or had to be sold private.
I'd be inter
Some more historical pointers:
If you want to look at the early history of the latency discussion,
look at Stuart Cheshire's famous rant "It's the Latency, Stupid"
(http://rescomp.stanford.edu/~cheshire/rants/Latency.html). Then look
at Matt Mathis's 1997 TCP equation (and the 1998 Padhye-Firoiu
Dear all
In my network, I have a router in a middle only speaks OSPF.
is there any solution (without redistribute BGP into OSPF) for this kind of
problem?
thanks
--
Tarig Y. Adam
CTO - SUIN
www.suin.edu.sd
On 12/23/10 9:19 AM, Jay Ashworth wrote:
> And that's just another argument in favor of muni fiber -- since it's
> municipal,
> it will by definition serve every address, and since it's monopoly, it will
> enable competition by making it practical for competitors to start up, since
> they'll have
- Original Message -
> From: "Matt Larson"
> The new KSK will not be published in an authenticated manner outside
> DNS (e.g., on an SSL-protected web page). Rather, the intended
> mechanism for trusting the new KSK is via the signed root zone: DS
> records corresponding to the new KSK ar
> I'd be interested to see what comments nanogers have on this piece. I'm not
> well enough read to critically evaluate the guy's assertions.
I'm not familiar with a GPON system that provides gigabit to every subscriber
under 'high congestion'.I do know of FTTN systems that can provide a lot
Hi Andre
That actually what I had done..
I thought it might be another solution
many thanks
--
Tarig Y. Adam
SUIN Network
Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2010 13:41:12 -0500
Subject: Re: Router only speaks IGP in BGP network
From: anf...@gmail.com
To: tariq198...@hotmail.com
how about sending only a d
>
> A 75% upsell rate to triple play packages seems ludicrous. I can't
> think of any industry that sees an upsell rate of 75% - can you (hell,
> I sold running shoes in high school, and the -target- upsell rate on
> shoestrings/socks/whatever-else was 15%).
>
> Nathan
Well, I won't get rid of
On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 10:17:46AM -0800, Joel Jaeggli wrote:
[...]
> The fact that I can get a wavelength to county dump in Eugene OR the
> composting facility in Palo Alto doesn't really do anything for the
> residential access market.
Why not?
You have to start with connectivity *somewhere*.
- Original Message -
> From: "John Osmon"
> On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 10:17:46AM -0800, Joel Jaeggli wrote:
> [...]
> > The fact that I can get a wavelength to county dump in Eugene OR the
> > composting facility in Palo Alto doesn't really do anything for the
> > residential access market.
- Original Message -
> From: "Nathan Eisenberg"
> I got a chuckle out of this:
> "Provo County’s iProvo was hoping for 10,000 subscribers by July 2006
> with the assumption that 75% of those customers would subscribe to
> lucrative triple play services, but the reality was 10,000 customer
There is a large difference between muni-fiber that attempts to
compete for some of the best customers (e.g. the following the
tranditional overbuild method) and muni-fiber who's goal is universal
service of fiber to the home.
Basically it is the difference between a small entity (the town) going
In a message written on Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 09:18:57PM +0300, Tarig Yassin
wrote:
> In my network, I have a router in a middle only speaks OSPF.
> is there any solution (without redistribute BGP into OSPF) for this kind of
> problem?
Sounds like the textbook case of how folks use MPLS.
--
Hello Tarig,
Setup a gre tunnel between the two bgp speakers and do ibgp over the
gre tunnel? (not clean but it works) or mpls..
If you implement the other solution mentioned you're creating routing loops.
On 23 December 2010 19:18, Tarig Yassin wrote:
>
> Dear all
>
> In my network, I have a ro
You could use a GRE tunnel to get traffic from one edge BGP outer to the
other edge BGP router. Then run BGP over this link.
- Brian J.
>-Original Message-
>From: Tarig Yassin [mailto:tariq198...@hotmail.com]
>Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2010 12:19 PM
>To: nanog; af...@afnog.org
>Subj
Does anyone have a favorite book or resource discussing MPLS and all
associated Lego blocks (e.g. LDP, TE, VPLS, martini, mBGP et. al.)?
I understand the basics of what MPLS is and how you create a circuit from
A to B but I'm afraid it still escapes me when trying to figure out how
someone
While on a MPLS related TAC case recently, I was speaking to an engineer who
helped vet portions of Cisco Press' MPLS Fundamentals
(http://www.ciscopress.com/bookstore/product.asp?isbn=1587051974). He said
it's one of the best he's come across, but there may perhaps be some bias there
;) Not
IMO the best book on the market is 'MPLS-Enabled Applications' by Ina Minei,
Julian Lucek. It has the best coverage all the things you mentioned plus
VPLS, P2MP LSP, draft-rosen and NG-VPN multicast architectures and the
explanations are clear and concise.
I wrote a review of this book a while ba
In case anyone else notices spotty problems resolving .gov names, I
just sent the following message to regist...@dotgov.gov:
I started investigating a dns issue after we received a few customer
complaints regarding intermittent problems resolving hostnames under
noaa.gov. After some in-dept
> In my network, I have a router in a middle only speaks OSPF.
> is there any solution (without redistribute BGP into OSPF) for this
> kind of problem?
uh, what exactly is the problem? i.e. what do you want to accomplish?
and do NOT redistribute bgp into ospf.
randy
Hi,
I know this might not be 100% on-topic and might be better suited
for a Linux-distro mailinglist, but I hope to get more diverse
methods from you networking experts.
Basically, I have a small residential connection, 5 Mbit down, 0.5
Mbit up. A user on my local network, who we will call
19
In message , Andy
Harrison writes:
> In case anyone else notices spotty problems resolving .gov names, I
> just sent the following message to regist...@dotgov.gov:
>
>
>
> I started investigating a dns issue after we received a few customer
> complaints regarding intermittent problems reso
I'm trying to find a contact for someone who might know something about
the proxies running on Sprint's data network. Basically our Android app
uses a local http server to serve content to the Android media player,
i.e. listening via 127.0.0.1. Unfortunately, a system update that
Sprint pushe
On Dec 23, 2010, at 5:49 PM, Michael Helmeste wrote:
> Does anyone have a favorite book or resource discussing MPLS and all
> associated Lego blocks (e.g. LDP, TE, VPLS, martini, mBGP et. al.)?
>
> I understand the basics of what MPLS is and how you create a circuit from
> A to B but I'm af
Anyone have a contact for CANTV.NET without using CANTV.NET mailserver which is
hosed, at least for abuse, support, and ipadmin which all fail?
TIA,
Tom
Looks like a good book to add to my bookshelf. Cisco's MPLS fundamentals is
also a good book although I'm only halfway through it
> From: sfou...@shortestpathfirst.net
> To: mhelm...@uvic.ca; nanog@nanog.org
> Subject: RE: Good MPLS/VPLS book?
> Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2010 18:06:03 -0500
>
On 12/21/10 2:18 PM, Frank Bulk wrote:
> There are 4,035 routes in the global IPv6 routing table. This is what one
> provider passed on to me for routes (/48 or larger prefixes), extracted from
> public route-view servers.
> AT&T AS7018: 2,851 (70.7%)
> Cogent AS174: 2,864 (71.0%)
>
Thanks for the suggestions, all! Looks like I have some reading to do.
On Thu, 23 Dec 2010 18:49:46 -0500
Dan Snyder wrote:
>
>
> On Dec 23, 2010, at 5:49 PM, Michael Helmeste wrote:
>
> > Does anyone have a favorite book or resource discussing MPLS and all
> > associated Lego blocks (e.g.
On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 20:37, Seth Mattinen wrote:
> On 12/21/10 2:18 PM, Frank Bulk wrote:
>> There are 4,035 routes in the global IPv6 routing table. This is what one
>> provider passed on to me for routes (/48 or larger prefixes), extracted from
>> public route-view servers.
>> AT&T AS7
On 12/23/10 6:02 PM, Scott Taylor wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 20:37, Seth Mattinen wrote:
>> On 12/21/10 2:18 PM, Frank Bulk wrote:
>>> There are 4,035 routes in the global IPv6 routing table. This is what one
>>> provider passed on to me for routes (/48 or larger prefixes), extracted from
>
On 12/13/10 8:32 AM, Jack Bates wrote:
> On 12/13/2010 10:20 AM, Owen DeLong wrote:
>> WOL is unfortunately terribly deficient in that the spec. never
>> envisioned the possibility
>> of a need for wake on WAN.
>>
>> Bottom line, it's a non-routeable layer 2 protocol. Your choices boil
>> down to t
Uhm, D-CATV is not IP just quite yet. Sometimes I wish that's the case, but
it's still very much RF.
There are several vendors that sell GPON solutions that support RF over fiber,
and there's always IP TV.
Frank
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