Re: Convenience or slippery slope... or something else?

On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 1:05 PM, Reese wrote: > A friend brought this to my attention: > > http://ipq.co/ as an aside: note the cert in used for the NIC's website... surely the .CO ccTLD could use a real cert? -chris

Re: Convenience or slippery slope... or something else?

On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 11:39 AM, Christopher Morrow wrote: > On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 1:05 PM, Reese wrote: >> A friend brought this to my attention: >> >> http://ipq.co/ > > as an aside: > > > > note the cert in used for the NIC's website... surely the .CO ccTLD > could use

Re: List of Teredo servers and teredo relays

I would be careful actually using teredo, as some of them (eg: Microsoft) have swaths of native IPv6 networks that are unreachable. I'm hoping they will correct some of the problems with it, but it makes IPv6 harder to use for some people as the Microsoft one does not appear to be well suppor

Re: List of Teredo servers and teredo relays

Even Micr0$0ft refers to Teredo as "The absolute last resort for IPv6 connectivity". Owen On Sep 11, 2010, at 9:28 AM, Jared Mauch wrote: > I would be careful actually using teredo, as some of them (eg: Microsoft) > have swaths of native IPv6 networks that are unreachable. > > I'm hoping th

Re: List of Teredo servers and teredo relays

On 9/11/2010 1:28 PM, Owen DeLong wrote: > Even Micr0$0ft refers to Teredo as "The absolute last resort for IPv6 > connectivity". > Yeah, but "they'll take it over IPv4 if they can get it" :-( Jeff

Re: List of Teredo servers and teredo relays

I may be missing the point here completely but to me Teredo just seems like a glorified hack/workaround for a bigger problem. Isn't is better (yes less cost-effective) to just upgrade equipment? I really don't see the advantage here. Maybe someone can explain away my ignorance to the concept? -

Re: List of Teredo servers and teredo relays

On 9/11/2010 3:29 PM, khatfi...@socllc.net wrote: > I may be missing the point here completely but to me Teredo just seems like a > glorified hack/workaround for a bigger problem. Isn't is better (yes less > cost-effective) to just upgrade equipment? > > I really don't see the advantage here. Ma

Re: List of Teredo servers and teredo relays

On 2010-09-11 22:22, Jeff Kell wrote: [..] > What is currently "breaking" things is the preference of IPv6 over > IPv4. If you're running a default Win2K8 active directory, it's > publishing all of it's goodies for login in IPv6 form complete with > address records. If your network isn't end

Re: List of Teredo servers and teredo relays

Thanks for the explanation. And Owen: thanks, I just thought most networks/facilities (colo/private) should be close to ipv6 now days. At least capable, maybe not configured. I think I was just making an assumption so thanks for the info. --Original Message-- From: Jeff Kell To: Kevin Ha

Re: List of Teredo servers and teredo relays

On Sep 11, 2010, at 3:18 PM, khatfi...@socllc.net wrote: > Thanks for the explanation. > > And Owen: thanks, I just thought most networks/facilities (colo/private) > should be close to ipv6 now days. At least capable, maybe not configured. > Would that it were so. The ones I work on all are.

Re: ISP port blocking practice

On Sun, Sep 5, 2010 at 8:06 PM, Owen DeLong wrote: > Doing away with open relays and open proxies didn't really interfere with > legitimate traffic on a meaningful level. > > Blocking outbound SMTP is causing such problems. > You keep saying this, but can you provide any examples of situations w

Re: Convenience or slippery slope... or something else?

Jon Lewis wrote (on Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 01:44:02PM -0400): > On Fri, 10 Sep 2010, Reese wrote: > > >A friend brought this to my attention: > > > >http://ipq.co/ > > > >He saw it at http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1678324 > > > >I'm not sure whether to shriek in joy or in pain. Will data from

Re: Convenience or slippery slope... or something else?

On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 8:24 PM, N. Yaakov Ziskind wrote: > Jon Lewis wrote (on Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 01:44:02PM -0400): > > On Fri, 10 Sep 2010, Reese wrote: > > > > >A friend brought this to my attention: > > > > > >http://ipq.co/ > > And now FF blocks it as a "reported attack page." > Bound to

Re: List of Teredo servers and teredo relays

On Sat, 11 Sep 2010, Jared Mauch wrote: I would be careful actually using teredo, as some of them (eg: Microsoft) have swaths of native IPv6 networks that are unreachable. While I would agree in principle, in practice we have little control over what customers use. I'm hoping they will corr