Re: Addressing plan exercise for our IPv6 course

2010-07-30 Thread Matthew Walster
On 29 July 2010 18:08, Leo Vegoda wrote: > There's a good chance that in the long run multi-subnet home networks will > become the norm. With all due respect, I can't see it. Why would a home user need multiple subnets? Are they really likely to have CPE capable of routing between subnets at 21s

Re: Addressing plan exercise for our IPv6 course

2010-07-30 Thread Jeroen Massar
On 2010-07-30 09:27, Matthew Walster wrote: > On 29 July 2010 18:08, Leo Vegoda wrote: >> There's a good chance that in the long run multi-subnet home networks will >> become the norm. > > With all due respect, I can't see it. Why would a home user need > multiple subnets? * Wireless * Wired *

Re: Addressing plan exercise for our IPv6 course

2010-07-30 Thread Matthew Walster
On 30 July 2010 08:32, Jeroen Massar wrote: > On 2010-07-30 09:27, Matthew Walster wrote: >> On 29 July 2010 18:08, Leo Vegoda wrote: >>> There's a good chance that in the long run multi-subnet home networks will >>> become the norm. >> >> With all due respect, I can't see it. Why would a home u

Re: Addressing plan exercise for our IPv6 course

2010-07-30 Thread David Conrad
Matthew, On Jul 30, 2010, at 9:27 AM, Matthew Walster wrote: > On 29 July 2010 18:08, Leo Vegoda wrote: >> There's a good chance that in the long run multi-subnet home networks will >> become the norm. > > Why would a home user need multiple subnets? Even today, people are deploying multiple s

Re: Addressing plan exercise for our IPv6 course

2010-07-30 Thread Matthew Walster
On 30 July 2010 09:20, David Conrad wrote: > Even today, people are deploying multiple subnets in their homes.  For > example, Apple's Airport allows you to trivially set up a "guest" network > that uses a different prefix (192.168.0.0/24) and different SSID than your > "normal" network (10.0.1

Re: Addressing plan exercise for our IPv6 course

2010-07-30 Thread Owen DeLong
On Jul 30, 2010, at 12:27 AM, Matthew Walster wrote: > On 29 July 2010 18:08, Leo Vegoda wrote: >> There's a good chance that in the long run multi-subnet home networks will >> become the norm. > > With all due respect, I can't see it. Why would a home user need > multiple subnets? Are they re

Monitoring tools for IPv6 tools

2010-07-30 Thread Diogo Montagner
Hello, I am looking for monitoring tools that already have support to IPv6. I am looking for both freeware and commercial tools. Please, do you know what network management system are already supporting IPv6 ? Thanks ./diogo -montagner

Re: 33-Bit Addressing via ONE bit or TWO bits ? does NANOG care?

2010-07-30 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 11:38:56PM -0400, Atticus wrote: > What world do live in? Yes, we extend the life of IPv4 by increasing the > numeric range. As for "only needing port 80", I'm not really sure where > you've been for the last decade or so. There's are hundreds of services > using different p

Re: Addressing plan exercise for our IPv6 course

2010-07-30 Thread Owen DeLong
On Jul 30, 2010, at 1:13 AM, Matthew Walster wrote: > On 30 July 2010 08:32, Jeroen Massar wrote: >> On 2010-07-30 09:27, Matthew Walster wrote: >>> On 29 July 2010 18:08, Leo Vegoda wrote: There's a good chance that in the long run multi-subnet home networks will become the norm. >>

Re: Monitoring tools for IPv6 tools

2010-07-30 Thread Vesna Manojlovic
Hi, I am looking for monitoring tools that already have support to IPv6. I am looking for both freeware and commercial tools. Please, do you know what network management system are already supporting IPv6 ? we keep the list in the "LIR Handbook" (page #64) http://www.ripe.net/training/materia

Re: Addressing plan exercise for our IPv6 course

2010-07-30 Thread Tore Anderson
Hi, * Matthew Walster On 30 July 2010 09:20, David Conrad wrote: Even today, people are deploying multiple subnets in their homes. For example, Apple's Airport allows you to trivially set up a "guest" network that uses a different prefix (192.168.0.0/24) and different SSID than your "normal"

Re: Addressing plan exercise for our IPv6 course

2010-07-30 Thread Matthew Walster
On 30 July 2010 09:53, Owen DeLong wrote: > 2.      Yes, they are already available. A moderate PC with 4 Gig-E >        ports can actually route all four of them at near wire speed. >        For 10/100Mbps, you can get full featured CPE like the SRX-100 >        for around $500. That's the upper

Re: Addressing plan exercise for our IPv6 course

2010-07-30 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 11:11:04 BST, Matthew Walster said: > Seriously, this is getting silly. I'm not even going to respond any > more - if you genuinely think users care about network management, > you're wrong. They treat it as a black box, and that isn't going to > change for a long, long, long ti

Re: Monitoring tools for IPv6 tools

2010-07-30 Thread Patrick Darden
I think he was looking for something more in the nature of network monitoring/analysis systems that support IPv6, like NTOP. ntop has been ported to ipv6--although I am unsure of the results. http://www.ntop.org/trac/wiki/ntop cold is a snffer/analyzer with ipv6 support. http://mailman.isi

Re: Monitoring tools for IPv6 tools

2010-07-30 Thread Diogo Montagner
Yes. This one. But also looking for IPv6 support for tools like OpenView, Infovista, Concord eHealth. Thanks ./diogo -montagner On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 8:21 PM, Patrick Darden wrote: > > I think he was looking for something more in the nature of network > monitoring/analysis systems that suppo

Re: Addressing plan exercise for our IPv6 course

2010-07-30 Thread Leo Bicknell
In a message written on Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 09:13:54AM +0100, Matthew Walster wrote: > On 30 July 2010 08:32, Jeroen Massar wrote: > > On 2010-07-30 09:27, Matthew Walster wrote: > >> On 29 July 2010 18:08, Leo Vegoda wrote: > >> With all due respect, I can't see it. Why would a home user need

Re: Monitoring tools for IPv6 tools

2010-07-30 Thread nanogf .
https://docs.google.com/viewer?url=http://www.6diss.org/tutorials/management.pdf http://tools.6net.org/ --- diogo.montag...@gmail.com wrote: From: Diogo Montagner To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Monitoring tools for IPv6 tools Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 17:06:31 +0800 Hello, I am looking for monit

Re: Addressing plan exercise for our IPv6 course

2010-07-30 Thread JC Dill
Matthew Walster wrote: On 29 July 2010 18:08, Leo Vegoda wrote: There's a good chance that in the long run multi-subnet home networks will become the norm. With all due respect, I can't see it. Why would a home user need multiple subnets? Are they really likely to have CPE capable of

SingTel (AS7473) is only announcing ConnectPlus (AS9911) routes to Level3 (AS3356) in SJC?

2010-07-30 Thread Martin Barry
Anyone on the list who can offer an explanation about the following scenario? We have taken this up with providers at either end but it will take awhile to filter up to the ASes in question. We were seeing a London to Singapore connection go via San Jose causing a 50%+ increase in latency. It app

Re: Addressing plan exercise for our IPv6 course

2010-07-30 Thread Owen DeLong
On Jul 30, 2010, at 3:11 AM, Matthew Walster wrote: > On 30 July 2010 09:53, Owen DeLong wrote: >> 2. Yes, they are already available. A moderate PC with 4 Gig-E >>ports can actually route all four of them at near wire speed. >>For 10/100Mbps, you can get full featured CPE l

Weekly Routing Table Report

2010-07-30 Thread Routing Analysis Role Account
This is an automated weekly mailing describing the state of the Internet Routing Table as seen from APNIC's router in Japan. The posting is sent to APOPS, NANOG, AfNOG, AusNOG, SANOG, PacNOG, LacNOG, CaribNOG and the RIPE Routing Working Group. Daily listings are sent to bgp-st...@lists.apnic.net

BGP Update Report

2010-07-30 Thread cidr-report
BGP Update Report Interval: 22-Jul-10 -to- 29-Jul-10 (7 days) Observation Point: BGP Peering with AS131072 TOP 20 Unstable Origin AS Rank ASNUpds % Upds/PfxAS-Name 1 - AS472542987 2.5% 333.2 -- ODN SOFTBANK TELECOM Corp. 2 - AS25620 25906 1.5%

The Cidr Report

2010-07-30 Thread cidr-report
This report has been generated at Fri Jul 30 21:11:44 2010 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org for a current version of this report. Recent Table History Date

Re: Monitoring tools for IPv6 tools

2010-07-30 Thread Diogo Montagner
Hi, thanks for the link. This was the best compilation that I found before. Unfortunately, this presentation is a little bit old (2006). I am supposing that most of commercial tools have improved your IPv6 support. Thanks ./diogo -montagner On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 11:07 PM, nanogf . wrote: >