RE: Todd Underwood was a little late

2010-06-21 Thread Lee Howard
> -Original Message- > From: Michael Dillon [mailto:wavetos...@googlemail.com] > Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2010 12:39 PM > To: Lee Howard > Cc: Todd Underwood; Christopher Morrow; nanog@nanog.org > Subject: Re: Todd Underwood was a little late > > " "Registered but unrouted" would include s

Re: Todd Underwood was a little late

2010-06-21 Thread Michael Dillon
> P.S. At this point, the IPv6 transition has failed, unlike the Y2K > transition, and > some level of crisis is unavoidable. In desperate times, people take desparate > measures, and "adopting" IP address ranges that are not used by others in > your locality seems a reasonable thing to do when eco

Re: Todd Underwood was a little late

2010-06-21 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 1:01 PM, Lee Howard wrote: >> P.S. At this point, the IPv6 transition has failed, unlike the Y2K >> transition, and > > For certain values of "fail."  The odds of a dual-stack transition as > initially > envisioned by the IETF are vanishingly small, but IPv6 will be a signi

Re: Todd Underwood was a little late

2010-06-21 Thread Michael Dillon
>>> P.S. At this point, the IPv6 transition has failed, unlike the Y2K >>> transition, and >> >> For certain values of "fail."  The odds of a dual-stack transition as >> initially >> envisioned by the IETF are vanishingly small, but IPv6 will be a significant >> part of the coping strategies once R

Re: Todd Underwood was a little late

2010-06-21 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 3:12 PM, Michael Dillon wrote: >> I don't think we'll have (nor would we have in 2005 even) gotten an >> ipv7/8/9/10 up and spec'd/coded/wrung-out before ~2 yrs from now >> either. So, given the cards we have, ipv6 isn't all bad. > > On this we agree. > The problem is not

List of a useful tools for network architects

2010-06-21 Thread Pavel Dimow
Hi, I am wondering what tools you consider most valuable when designing big network from scratch or perform a migration? For example I would like to know is there a tool that will perform basic sanity checks like network equipment without redundant link or without link at all... I know that the on

RE: PCAP Sanitization Tool

2010-06-21 Thread Delgado,Rodolfo
You can take a look at netdude: http://netdude.sourceforge.net/ -Original Message- From: Bein, Matthew [mailto:mb...@iso-ne.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 12:59 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: PCAP Sanitization Tool Hello, Anyone know of a good tool for sanitizing PCAP files? I w

Re: Advice regarding Cisco/Juniper/HP

2010-06-21 Thread Brent Jones
On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 7:52 AM, Pavel Skovajsa wrote: > To emphasise more this subject, the technical support HP Procurve is > providing (for free) is more consumer level and in my opinion is one of the > key differentiators from teams like Cisco TAC. Here is a short laundry list > of my experien

Re: List of a useful tools for network architects

2010-06-21 Thread Jens Link
Pavel Dimow writes: > Hi, > > I am wondering what tools you consider most valuable when designing big > network from scratch or perform a migration? White board and a digital camera to document the drawings. Pen and paper are also a very important tool. > For example I would like to know is t

Re: List of a useful tools for network architects

2010-06-21 Thread Scott Weeks
--- li...@quux.de wrote: From: Jens Link > I am wondering what tools you consider most valuable when designing big > network from scratch or perform a migration? - Experience. If possible, find someone with it. Or, start reading 24x7 immediately

Re: List of a useful tools for network architects

2010-06-21 Thread Pavel Dimow
And how do you feel when client tell you that you don't have a connection from SW-476 to SW-145? "Well you see, there are plenty of boxes out there (couple hundreds) you don't expect that everything must be perfect right? Anyhow I was very tired that day" The point is, I am not looking for a p

Micro-allocation needed?

2010-06-21 Thread Ask Bjørn Hansen
Hi everyone, We're going to anycast a /24 for some DNS servers (and possibly another UDP based service)[1]. I see that ARIN are listing on https://www.arin.net/knowledge/ip_blocks.html the smallest allocations from each prefix. Will we have trouble getting a /24 announced if we take it from

Re: Micro-allocation needed?

2010-06-21 Thread William Pitcock
On Mon, 2010-06-21 at 23:32 +0200, Ask Bjørn Hansen wrote: > Hi everyone, > > We're going to anycast a /24 for some DNS servers (and possibly another UDP > based service)[1]. > > I see that ARIN are listing on https://www.arin.net/knowledge/ip_blocks.html > the smallest allocations from each pr

Re: Micro-allocation needed?

2010-06-21 Thread Ask Bjørn Hansen
On Jun 21, 2010, at 23:34, William Pitcock wrote: > On Mon, 2010-06-21 at 23:32 +0200, Ask Bjørn Hansen wrote: >> Hi everyone, >> >> We're going to anycast a /24 for some DNS servers (and possibly another UDP >> based service)[1]. >> >> I see that ARIN are listing on https://www.arin.net/knowl

Re: List of a useful tools for network architects

2010-06-21 Thread Garret Picchioni
Paul, My biggest tool is a couple extra sets of eyes. A fresh look from the outside by someone else is going to be the biggest help. Pen and Paper (or Visio w/ Icons http://packetlife.net/media/library/33/Cisco_Marketing_Icons.zip) I personally like using network simulators to try out diffe

Re: Micro-allocation needed?

2010-06-21 Thread William Pitcock
On Mon, 2010-06-21 at 23:42 +0200, Ask Bjørn Hansen wrote: > On Jun 21, 2010, at 23:34, William Pitcock wrote: > > > On Mon, 2010-06-21 at 23:32 +0200, Ask Bjørn Hansen wrote: > >> Hi everyone, > >> > >> We're going to anycast a /24 for some DNS servers (and possibly another > >> UDP based servi

Re: List of a useful tools for network architects

2010-06-21 Thread Brian Feeny
Everything should be documented and designed before its deployed. It should be reviewed by others. Then it should be tested. Its hard to make it past the testing phase and still have these issues. If your using a flawed deployment strategy, like many people do, where your skipping design, do

Re: Micro-allocation needed?

2010-06-21 Thread Joe Abley
On 2010-06-21, at 17:42, Ask Bjørn Hansen wrote: > Are there (a significant number of) providers that will filter a /24 > announcement from an ARIN prefix not in the list of prefixes where they > allocate /24 blocks. Not in my experience, but I don't know how useful that is to know because I

Re: Micro-allocation needed?

2010-06-21 Thread Daniel Seagraves
AT&T announces ours. It just took a little bit of prodding to get the sales people to ask the appropriate technical people. We have a very old ARIN-allocated /24 but we have only one upstream, so we have no AS number of our own. On Jun 21, 2010, at 4:42 PM, Ask Bjørn Hansen wrote: > > On Jun 2

Re: Micro-allocation needed?

2010-06-21 Thread Ask Bjørn Hansen
On Jun 21, 2010, at 23:55, Joe Abley wrote: Everyone: Thanks for the replies regarding the /24 announcement from a "/20 allocated block". Yes, obviously the /20 announcement will handle the traffic, too. I'm a regular reader on NANOG and consistently impressed by the expertise on display and

Re: Micro-allocation needed?

2010-06-21 Thread Kevin Oberman
> From: Joe Abley > Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 17:55:40 -0400 > > I'm interested in the idea of anycasting one of the pool.ntp.org > herd-members. Every time I've suggested such a thing I've been told > (paraphrasing) that a good (server, client) NTP session exhibits > reasonable RTT stability, this

no you can't configure your router w/ this

2010-06-21 Thread bmanning
sigh... where was this useful data 10 years ago! http://www.fcc.gov/worldtravel/ --bill

Dividing up a small IPv4 block

2010-06-21 Thread Steve Bertrand
Hi all, I've got a local v4 peer (ie. an ISP whom I lease fibre from to feed my clients, they peer with me directly, and we're about to provide mutual transit for one another). They (hereinafter 'client') have recently received a /22 from ARIN. The client's immediate need is to re-assign a /23 to

Re: Dividing up a small IPv4 block

2010-06-21 Thread Brad Fleming
Thinking that they will have to go back to ARIN for additional space relatively quickly without intervention, can anyone provide links to docs that will help prevent future renumbering or decent management? I know that I can collapse a lot of their current waste, and I know where I can scrounge

Re: List of a useful tools for network architects

2010-06-21 Thread Joel Jaeggli
There was a lightning talk on Netdot at Nanog 48 I'd take a look at the presentation and the the website. It's quite useful from the documentation and discovery standpoint After the initial whit board I generally sit down and document what we're going to build then we build a transition plan th

Re: List of a useful tools for network architects

2010-06-21 Thread Joel Jaeggli
On 06/21/2010 08:46 PM, Joel Jaeggli wrote: > There was a lightning talk on Netdot at Nanog 48 I'd take a look at the > presentation and the the website. It's quite useful from the documentation > and discovery standpoint meh, it was nanog 49, and the link is: http://www.nanog.org/meetings/na

Re: Micro-allocation needed?

2010-06-21 Thread khatfield
Are you considering doing SNTP or regular NTP? If regular NTP... I once read some excellent advice on AnyCast: "It often doesn't make sense to go through the extra complexity in deploying a service with AnyCast addressing if it doesn't justify the benefit." In this sense, I really don't understa