For the sake of my knowledge (and perhaps that of some others on the list),
I would like to ask if the current work on standards by IETF, ITU and IEEE
not a step to address the issue of seamlessly using Ethernet in the
metro/core?
IETF is working on GMPLS Ethernet Label Switching (GELS), which prop
On Wed, 8 Jul 2009, Tomas L. Byrnes wrote:
There's plenty of fiber in the ground. Light dark stuff with the new
network, plug it into IEEE 802* compliant layer 2, and IETF compliant
layer 3 infrastructure; and leave the dying Bellcore/ITU network on the
old copper and SONET.
Have you built a
Call for Presentations - AusNOG-03
-
AusNOG-03 is to be held in Sydney, Australia between 31st August and 1st
of September 2009
The AusNOG meeting provides the Australian community with a forum to
exchange information and experiences on a number of issues relating
> Jumping on the back of this thread, does anyone have any recommendations
> for suppliers of Cisco kit in the states? I don't fancy dealing with customs &
> international shipping.
>
Thanks to the significant number of individuals who have replied.
Once I've got the kit shipped to NY, I am going
Hi,
I've seen a big drop in IPv6 traffic volume on our Freenet6 IPv6
service last night and it seems to be the same on AMS-IX.
Has anyone else seen the same? Any idea why?
Thanks,
Mikael
On 9 jul 2009, at 12:24, Mikael Lind wrote:
Hi,
I've seen a big drop in IPv6 traffic volume on our Freenet6 IPv6
service last night and it seems to be the same on AMS-IX.
Has anyone else seen the same? Any idea why?
Multiple options, but it must have something todo with a free usenet
servi
It was big (flash traffic roughly doubled globally at the peak), but
not in the same ballpark as Obama inauguration.
A graph of July 7 flash traffic across 97 tier1/2 ISPs compared with
the daily average:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2581/3704208402_34ca00597d.jpg?v=0
- Craig
On
> -Original Message-
> From: Craig Labovitz [mailto:labo...@arbor.net]
> Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 8:10 AM
> To: Shon Elliott
> Cc: nanog@nanog.org
> Subject: Re: Traffic Statistics for Yesterday
>
>
> It was big (flash traffic roughly doubled globally at the peak), but
> not in the s
Same here, we usually do 40-100Mbit of teredo 2001::/32 anycast traffic
(a lot of which is news traffic over IPv6 to artrato/XSnews) and that
dropped to an all-time low a bit before 0:00 CET.
I know XSnews had a free IPv6 news account service, perhaps they closed
that ?
Marco Hogewoning wrot
On 30/06/09 07:59, John Edwards wrote:
The courier will likely charge you less than a customs broker will for a
single item - the brokers are mainly used for large transactions. While
you're legally entitled to bring this equipment in carry-on luggage,
proving and authenticating your right can b
Jeroen Wunnink wrote:
> Same here, we usually do 40-100Mbit of teredo 2001::/32 anycast traffic
> (a lot of which is news traffic over IPv6 to artrato/XSnews) and that
> dropped to an all-time low a bit before 0:00 CET.
>
> I know XSnews had a free IPv6 news account service, perhaps they closed
>
Just spoke with Michiel of Atrato / XSnews, they had some issues with an
internal part of XSnews which also affected their IPv6 enabled services.
Jeroen Wunnink wrote:
Same here, we usually do 40-100Mbit of teredo 2001::/32 anycast
traffic (a lot of which is news traffic over IPv6 to artrato/X
Hi Jeroen & others,
Yep, looks like we are doing a great portion of AMSIX's IPv6 traffic and
our (free) IPv6 service was affected because of an internal error last
night around 00.30 am.
I'll put it up in a few hours for you free leechers :-)
Cheers,
Michiel
> Just spoke with Michiel of Atrato
On Jul 9, 2009, at 9:58 AM, michiel.muhlenbau...@atratoip.net wrote:
Hi Jeroen & others,
Yep, looks like we are doing a great portion of AMSIX's IPv6 traffic
and
our (free) IPv6 service was affected because of an internal error last
night around 00.30 am.
Michiel,
Thank you for the inform
I frequently run into scenarios where two devices (two routers, or a
router and a host) need a point-to-point connection to each other with
a capacity of (much) more than 10 Gbps.
For cost reasons, Ethernet is often used.
Since more than 10 Gbps is needed, we end up with multiple parallel
10GE po
Hi Patrick ,
On 9 jul 2009, at 16:10, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
On Jul 9, 2009, at 9:58 AM, michiel.muhlenbau...@atratoip.net wrote:
Hi Jeroen & others,
Yep, looks like we are doing a great portion of AMSIX's IPv6
traffic and
our (free) IPv6 service was affected because of an internal erro
> Michiel,
>
> Thank you for the information. Could you let us know if XS4All's free
> v6 news feed went to zero, or was just dropped by some percentage?
>
> I ask because the AMS-IX is frequently used as an example that v6 is
> being heavily adopted. If it is all one source for one application,
If I look at a tcpdump of our teredo relay which is announced to all our
AMS-IX peers (and some partial and full transits), there's a lot of nntp
and quite some torrent packets going over there, so it seems the
majority of IPv6 traffic is due to content providers like XSnews
providing 'freebies
Glen Turner wrote:
I wouldn't recommend importing the switches through your luggage.
The few times I've tried that arranging all of the documentation
prior to travel has really sucked.
YMMV - I had no problems arranging the documentation.
As a trivial example of what can
go wrong, if you unkn
Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
[..]
> I ask because the AMS-IX is frequently used as an example that v6 is
> being heavily adopted. If it is all one source for one application,
> that is important information to the people fighting for v6 adoption.
> Going from peaks of 1.4 Gbps to 0.4 Gbps is impress
Freenet6 went from about 200Mb/s to less than 10Mb/s when we lost both
XSnews and XS4all. I thought it would be more torrent traffic but I guess we
now know what it actually is.
Cheers,
Mikael
On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 4:34 PM, Jeroen Wunnink wrote:
> If I look at a tcpdump of our teredo relay which
On Jul 9, 2009, at 10:40 AM, Jeroen Massar wrote:
Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
[..]
I ask because the AMS-IX is frequently used as an example that v6 is
being heavily adopted. If it is all one source for one application,
that is important information to the people fighting for v6 adoption.
Going f
On Jul 9, 2009, at 8:10 AM, Craig Labovitz wrote:
It was big (flash traffic roughly doubled globally at the peak), but
not in the same ballpark as Obama inauguration.
A graph of July 7 flash traffic across 97 tier1/2 ISPs compared with
the daily average:
http://farm3.static.flickr.co
On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 11:52 AM, Robin
Rodriguez wrote:
> I don't have any usage experience, but would be very interested from anyone
> who does as well. We have spoken with them about long-haul circuits (with
> small to no commit) and their prices are indeed incredible. The prices we
> heard were
Cayle,
This may be partial hijack of the thread or even a trivial query but I ask
this since you mentioned "For cost reasons, Ethernet is often used". We hear
this argument all the time. The standard unabridged reason I have learned is
the ubiquity of Ethernet devices, whatever that means. Can you
Hi All,
My name is Todd Braning, I work on the technical side of the BandCon
house. I am afraid Paul's email is inaccurate.
Here are a few facts:
BandCon offers transport services that can be configured as
unprotected or protected. If you buy an unprotected circuit, and the
underlying transpor
On Fri, 10 Jul 2009, Zartash Uzmi wrote:
Can you say why precisely the cost of Ethernet is low compared to other
viable alternatives?
The components going into ethernet devices are cheaper because of high
volume, but it's also that the SONET/SDH stuff is grossly overpriced
"because we can" b
On Thu, 09 Jul 2009 16:33:10 -0400, Zartash Uzmi wrote:
... Can you say why
precisely the cost of Ethernet is low compared to other viable
alternatives?
Volume. Economies of scale. Etc.
Ethernet is cheap because it's everywhere, and built into almost
everything. (however, the likes of C
All,
I'm currently experiencing a DDOS attack on my home DSL connection.
Thousands of requests to port 80.
I'm on an SBC business class account.
I'm guessing that calling the regular customer support won't get me
anywhere.
Any suggestions?
Zartash Uzmi wrote:
> Can you say why precisely the cost of Ethernet is low compared to other
> viable alternatives?
Becuase there's a lot of it?
Gigabit ethernet ports cost less than 9600bps terminal server ports.
Charles,
You're going to need an enterprise grade DDoS protection provider and
should expect to spend anywhere from hundreds to thousands per month
for this service. This is not a service the majority of transit
providers are capable of offering.
Best regards, Jeff
On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 5:35 P
We've run our circuits pretty hot and not noticed anything that would indicate
a lack of shaping/policing. And while the flame war with the attrition guys
was pretty funny (I'm a sucker for classics) I wouldn't really use that as any
type of barometer of ... well anything really. This email m
Turn off your DSL modem for awhile, and hope for a new dynamic IP?
Mark
On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 5:35 PM, Charles Wyble wrote:
> All,
>
> I'm currently experiencing a DDOS attack on my home DSL connection.
>
> Thousands of requests to port 80.
>
> I'm on an SBC business class account.
>
> I'm gu
Turn off whatever you have listening on port 80.
On Thu, 9 Jul 2009 21:25:48 -0400
Mark Price wrote:
> Turn off your DSL modem for awhile, and hope for a new dynamic IP?
>
>
> Mark
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 5:35 PM, Charles Wyble
> wrote:
> > All,
> >
> > I'm currently experiencing a D
I have a static range. :(
Mark Price wrote:
Turn off your DSL modem for awhile, and hope for a new dynamic IP?
Mark
I did. Still getting pounded.
John Peach wrote:
Turn off whatever you have listening on port 80.
On Thu, 9 Jul 2009 21:25:48 -0400
Mark Price wrote:
Turn off your DSL modem for awhile, and hope for a new dynamic IP?
Mark
On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 5:35 PM, Charles Wyble
wrote:
All,
I'm cu
On Thu, Jul 09, 2009, Charles Wyble wrote:
> I did. Still getting pounded.
And its not covered by your SLA?
Adrian
Have you spoken with your provider? They should be giving you options,
like changing your static address, or null routing the attackers
upstream, or perhaps blocking port 80 to you, to limit your ingress traffic.
- Dan
Charles Wyble wrote:
I did. Still getting pounded.
John Peach wrote:
Tur
Dude, he's on SBC man. They're not going to do anything but tell him
to restart the modem.
On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 9:42 PM, Dan White wrote:
> Have you spoken with your provider? They should be giving you options, like
> changing your static address, or null routing the attackers upstream, or
> per
Dan White wrote:
> Have you spoken with your provider? They should be giving you options,
> like changing your static address, or null routing the attackers
> upstream, or perhaps blocking port 80 to you, to limit your ingress
> traffic.
>
For DSL? I've never had that kind of luck with SBC's (now
In a former life, I used Bandcon for point to point transport between POPs.
We did not use them for IP Transit.
I found Bandcon to be professional, responsive, and their technical design
and delivery quality very high.
Problems were extremely rare, and when they occurred they were dealt with
prom
Good, Fast, Cheap, pick any two. Consumer grade AT&T DSL is fast and
cheap, and now you realize why Good is not included when you go with
Fast and Cheap.
jc
Charles Wyble wrote:
All,
I'm currently experiencing a DDOS attack on my home DSL connection.
Thousands of requests to port 80.
I'm
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Charles Wyble wrote:
> All,
>
> I'm currently experiencing a DDOS attack on my home DSL connection.
>
> Thousands of requests to port 80.
>
> I'm on an SBC business class account.
>
> I'm guessing that calling the regular customer support won't get
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Jon Kibler wrote:
> Charles Wyble wrote:
>> All,
>
>> I'm currently experiencing a DDOS attack on my home DSL connection.
>
>> Thousands of requests to port 80.
>
>> I'm on an SBC business class account.
>
>> I'm guessing that calling the regular c
All,
There are few if any ISP that will help you with something like this.
Law enforcement also does not have the resources to even begin to look
at a single DSL line being attacked unless you can show 7+ figures in
damage or some type of major threat to national infrastructure.
Your options are
Jeffrey Lyon wrote:
> All,
>
> There are few if any ISP that will help you with something like this.
> Law enforcement also does not have the resources to even begin to look
> at a single DSL line being attacked unless you can show 7+ figures in
> damage or some type of major threat to national in
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