Re: World famous cabling disasters?

patr...@ianai.net (Patrick W. Gilmore) wrote: > >I'm looking for a couple of pictures of the worst cabling > >infrastructure ever seem. One Wilshire meet me room comes to mind. > >Anyone got any links to their photo albums, etc? > > I've always considered this the worst: > >

RE: World famous cabling disasters?

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Call for data: IPv6 enabled service logfiles for analysis

Call for data: IPv6 enabled service logfile analysis APNIC is seeking operators of high-traffic webhosts, and other public facing services who can provide logfiles for their IPv6 enabled instances. Our intention is to analyse these for the distribution of IPv4, and the various sub-classes o

Network diagram software

I'd like to know what software people are using to document networks. Visio is obvious but feels like a straight jacket to me. I liked netviz but it seems owned by CA and unsupported nowadays. What do you use? /Tias

Re: Network diagram software

Mathias Wolkert wrote: > I'd like to know what software people are using to document networks. > Visio is obvious but feels like a straight jacket to me. > I liked netviz but it seems owned by CA and unsupported nowadays. Omnigrafle and Dia are all I can add to your list

Re: Network diagram software

On 2/11/2009 8:06 AM, Mathias Wolkert wrote: I'd like to know what software people are using to document networks. Visio is obvious but feels like a straight jacket to me. I liked netviz but it seems owned by CA and unsupported nowadays. What do you use? /Tias network notepad

Re: Network diagram software

Mathias Wolkert wrote: I'd like to know what software people are using to document networks. Visio is obvious but feels like a straight jacket to me. I liked netviz but it seems owned by CA and unsupported nowadays. What do you use? OmniGraffle is the better Visio. rgds, .m

Re: Network diagram software

On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 02:06:09PM +0100, Mathias Wolkert wrote: > I'd like to know what software people are using to document networks. > Visio is obvious but feels like a straight jacket to me. > I liked netviz but it seems owned by CA and unsupported nowadays. > > What do you use? To what end?

Re: Network diagram software

On 11.02.2009, at 14:12, Malte von dem Hagen wrote: Mathias Wolkert wrote: I'd like to know what software people are using to document networks. Visio is obvious but feels like a straight jacket to me. I liked netviz but it seems owned by CA and unsupported nowadays. What do you use? OmniGraf

Re: World famous cabling disasters?

http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&safe=on&q=india+wiring&btnG=Search+Images There are several results for overhead outdoor wiring that just completely boggle the mind and inspire awe. Those pictures are my inspiration whenever I pull cable. Steve On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 5:18 AM, Bailey St

RE: World famous cabling disasters?

The main telephone room in every commercial tower I've ever had the displeasure of spending any time in was a disaster. I love how the circuits all use the same color wiring between the 100 pair 66 blocks that were so covered in crud that just touching them would turn your fingers black. The clos

Re: Network diagram software

On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 02:06:09PM +0100, Mathias Wolkert wrote: > I'd like to know what software people are using to document networks. > Visio is obvious but feels like a straight jacket to me. > I liked netviz but it seems owned by CA and unsupported nowadays. > > What do you use? I'd like to

Re: Network diagram software

On Feb 11, 2009, at 9:42 AM, Ross Vandegrift wrote: I'd like to put a second request. I often want to very quickly mock-up a diagram that I'm going to use for myself or for internal purposes. Is there any application that takes some kind of *simple* description and produces a (possibly not so

Re: Network diagram software

Hi, Ross Vandegrift wrote: Is there any application that takes some kind of *simple* description and produces a (possibly not so beautiful) picture? yes, Omnigraffle here as well. Can be simple AND beautiful. rgds, .m

Re: Network diagram software

On Feb 11, 2009, at 8:51 AM, Malte von dem Hagen wrote: Hi, Ross Vandegrift wrote: Is there any application that takes some kind of *simple* description and produces a (possibly not so beautiful) picture? yes, Omnigraffle here as well. Can be simple AND beautiful. rgds, .m Agreed. We use

Re: Network diagram software

Thanks all for your input. One thing that hits me is how different networks are documented. Are there any best practice communicated (RFC/IETF)? I like the idea of having one physical version showing cables and devices (CDP/EDP/LLDP view pretty much) and one logical view showing IP subnets. Many t

Re: Network diagram software

> OmniGraffle is the better Visio. Me three. We all use OmniGraffle. And Adobe Illustrator to create new objects. -Bill

RE: Network diagram software

You can also use Lan Surveyor from us here @SolarWinds. There's a light version called "Lan Surveyor Express" that discovers the network (layer 2 and 3) and then draws the topology for you in Visio. You can of course buy it from SolarWinds.Com but there's also a special link that we use to give it

Re: Network diagram software

yWorks http://www.yworks.com/en/index.html worth a try, its yEd is free. m On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 9:51 AM, Malte von dem Hagen wrote: > Hi, > > Ross Vandegrift wrote: >> >> Is there any application that takes some kind of *simple* description >> and produces a (possibly not so beautiful) pictur

Re: Network diagram software

On Wed, 11 Feb 2009 07:27:35 -0800 (PST), Bill Woodcock wrote: > > OmniGraffle is the better Visio. > > Me three. We all use OmniGraffle. And Adobe Illustrator to create new > objects. Me four, except I'm too lazy to create new objects and just slurp them from Graffletopia:

Re: Network diagram software

On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 07:27:35AM -0800, Bill Woodcock wrote: > > OmniGraffle is the better Visio. > > Me three. We all use OmniGraffle. And Adobe Illustrator to create new > objects. I use Omnigraffle all the time. Check out graffletopia for new stencils: http://www.graffletopia.com/ (

RE: Network diagram software

> -Original Message- > From: Ross Vandegrift [mailto:r...@kallisti.us] > Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 9:42 AM > To: Mathias Wolkert > Cc: nanog@nanog.org > Subject: Re: Network diagram software > > On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 02:06:09PM +0100, Mathias Wolkert wrote: > > I'd like to kno

XKL

Does anyone have any experience using the DXM from XKL for DWDM deployments? Any feedback is appreciated. Thanks, Brian

Re: XKL

what do you mean? --- On Wed, 2/11/09, Sutterfield, Brian wrote: > From: Sutterfield, Brian > Subject: XKL > To: nanog@nanog.org > Date: Wednesday, February 11, 2009, 5:33 PM > Does anyone have any experience using the DXM from XKL for > DWDM > deployments? > > > > Any feedback is appreci

Re: Network diagram software

OmniGraffle all the way On Feb 11, 2009, at 8:12 AM, Malte von dem Hagen wrote: Mathias Wolkert wrote: I'd like to know what software people are using to document networks. Visio is obvious but feels like a straight jacket to me. I liked netviz but it seems owned by CA and unsupported nowaday

RE: XKL

What do you mean? --- On Wed, 2/11/09, Robert D. Scott wrote: > From: Robert D. Scott > Subject: RE: XKL > To: isabeldi...@yahoo.com > Date: Wednesday, February 11, 2009, 6:11 PM > http://www.xkl.com/ > > Robert D. Scott rob...@ufl.edu > Senior Network Engineer 352-273

RE: Networking performance

STG is a very simple windows real time snmp grapher http://leonidvm.chat.ru/ It is geared at interface throughput but can easily be used for things like CPU utilization, firewall connection counts, temperature, etc. -Original Message- From: Joel Jaeggli [mailto:joe...@bogus.com] Sent: Fr

RE: Network diagram software

> > > Mathias Wolkert wrote: > >> I'd like to know what software people are using to document > networks. > >> Visio is obvious but feels like a straight jacket to me. > >> I liked netviz but it seems owned by CA and unsupported nowadays. > >> What do you use? > > > > OmniGraffle is the better Vis

Re: Network diagram software

Concept Draw is compatible with Windows and Mac. UI is similar to Visio. http://www.conceptdraw.com/en/ On Feb 11, 2009, at 9:19 AM, Ray Burkholder wrote: Mathias Wolkert wrote: I'd like to know what software people are using to document networks. Visio is obvious but feels like a

Re: XKL

you mean these guys? http://inwap.com/pdp10/td-1b.html --bill (who is almost certainly experiencing Charles Bonet Syndrome) On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 10:33:48AM -0600, Sutterfield, Brian wrote: > Does anyone have any experience using the DXM from XKL for DWDM > deployments? > > > > Any fee

Re: Network diagram software

I use the free basic version of http://www.gliffy.com for mock-ups. It doesn't go as deep as OmniGraffle or Visio, but it's enough to illustrate concepts to NOC guys or executives.

J-series and Cisco ME3400 L2 Issues

Hello all! Recently, KanREN has begun purchasing Ethernet circuits from a new provider who uses a Cisco ME3400 for CPE to provide the link to us. We use primarly Juniper J-2320 and J-4350 routers for our site equipment (running JunOS 9.3 Enhanced Services). We've seen a problem getting La

Re: Network diagram software

Ray Burkholder wrote: Mathias Wolkert wrote: I'd like to know what software people are using to document networks. Visio is obvious but feels like a straight jacket to me. I liked netviz but it seems owned by CA and unsupported nowadays. What do you use? OmniGraffle is the better Visio. Omn

Re: Network diagram software

On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 04:11:38PM +0100, Mathias Wolkert wrote: [...] > I like the idea of having one physical version showing cables and devices > (CDP/EDP/LLDP view pretty much) and one logical view showing IP subnets. > Many times I found *documented* networks where this is all combined making

Re: Network diagram software

On Feb 11, 2009, at 7:06 AM, Mathias Wolkert wrote: I'd like to know what software people are using to document networks. Visio is obvious but feels like a straight jacket to me. I liked netviz but it seems owned by CA and unsupported nowadays. What do you use? /Tias Two packages that I'm l

RE: Network diagram software

> -Original Message- > From: Kevin Day [mailto:toa...@dragondata.com] > Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 2:16 PM > To: Mathias Wolkert > Cc: nanog@nanog.org > Subject: Re: Network diagram software > > > On Feb 11, 2009, at 7:06 AM, Mathias Wolkert wrote: > > > I'd like to know what s

Re: Network diagram software

On Feb 11, 2009, at 2:37 PM, Howard C. Berkowitz wrote: -Original Message- From: Kevin Day [mailto:toa...@dragondata.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 2:16 PM To: Mathias Wolkert Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Network diagram software On Feb 11, 2009, at 7:06 AM, Mathias Wo

Re: Network diagram software

Colin Alston writes: > Mathias Wolkert wrote: >> I'd like to know what software people are using to document networks. >> Visio is obvious but feels like a straight jacket to me. >> I liked netviz but it seems owned by CA and unsupported nowadays. > > Omnigrafle and Dia are all I can add to your

Re: Network diagram software

Mathias Wolkert wrote: >>> OmniGraffle is the better Visio. ...except I've not found any good networking/systems stencils for omnigraffle (even on graffletopia). I tried to import the visio ones in 5.0 but that didn't work too well. Someone out there have something for omnigraffle that rivals t

Re: XKL

We used DXM10 at Caltech to connect the switches at colo in downtown LA during supercomputing 2008. Configuration is pretty straight forward and box is well stable. No errors / link flaps seen on the ports. Few of the ports were LR for 7606 and some were SR for servers connecting Myricom 10GE NICs

RE: XKL- after a brainstorming session ?

Rob, Ok. Do you want to share your experience? No point of taking this offline! Are you looking at market share, attributes and functionality on these new appliances? In this competitive world everyone has a say to the well-known Cisco and Juniper product set. What is the ASIC board type

Re: Network diagram software

Am 11.02.2009 21:50 Uhr, Craig Holland schrieb: > Mathias Wolkert wrote: Did he? OmniGraffle is the better Visio. > > ...except I've not found any good networking/systems stencils for > omnigraffle (even on graffletopia). I tried to import the visio ones in 5.0 > but that didn't work too

Re: Network diagram software

Le mercredi 11 février 2009 à 23:34 +0100, Malte von dem Hagen a écrit : > > Am 11.02.2009 21:50 Uhr, Craig Holland schrieb: > > Mathias Wolkert wrote: > > Did he? > > OmniGraffle is the better Visio. > > > > ...except I've not found any good networking/systems stencils for > > omnigraffle

Re: Network diagram software

Le mercredi 11 février 2009 à 23:51 +0100, Michael Hallgren a écrit : > Le mercredi 11 février 2009 à 23:34 +0100, Malte von dem Hagen a écrit : > > > > Am 11.02.2009 21:50 Uhr, Craig Holland schrieb: > > > Mathias Wolkert wrote: > > > > Did he? > > > > OmniGraffle is the better Visio. > >

Re: Network diagram software

Hej, Am 11.02.2009 19:13 Uhr, John Osmon schrieb: > On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 04:11:38PM +0100, Mathias Wolkert wrote: >> I like the idea of having one physical version showing cables and devices >> (CDP/EDP/LLDP view pretty much) and one logical view showing IP subnets. >> Many times I found *docum

Re: Network diagram software

Quoting Mathias Wolkert : I'd like to know what software people are using to document networks. Visio is obvious but feels like a straight jacket to me. I liked netviz but it seems owned by CA and unsupported nowadays. What do you use? /Tias I know what you mean about the straight jacket, V

Re: Network diagram software

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Yo All! Quoting Mathias Wolkert : > I'd like to know what software people are using to document networks. > Visio is obvious but feels like a straight jacket to me. > I liked netviz but it seems owned by CA and unsupported nowadays. I am surprised n

Cogent Question - Increments Question

Hi there... First off, I want to make it very clear ... I'm NOT looking for a Cogent sales person to call nor am I actually looking for pricing itself. What I'm looking for feedback on is from existing customers and whether or not Cogent sold you the option to step up in 10 meg increments fro

Re: Network diagram software

  I'm surprised no one has mentioned NetBrain.  It can automatically (via discovery, or device configs) create Network diagrams that can be exported to Visio.     http://www.netbraintech.com/web_08/solutions/na.php   Chris Quoting Mathias Wolkert : > I'd like to know what software people are u

RE: Cogent Question - Increments Question

Just wanted to say thanks - I already got 5+ replies offline stating that all these folks have ever been offered was either 10 or 100 on FE basis... Cheers, Paul -Original Message- From: Paul Stewart [mailto:pstew...@nexicomgroup.net] Sent: February 11, 2009 6:30 PM To: nanog@nanog.org

RE: Cogent Question - Increments Question

Since everyone is relying offline and I believe in keeping lists updated after asking a question;) It seems to depend on who you talk to basically - long and short I've heard from numerous folks that were only offered 10 or 100 on FE but I have also heard from many people that more recently we

Re: Cogent Question - Increments Question

Paul, With all due respect i'm not sure Cogent's sales practices are on topic for this list. Perhaps ask the question but most subscribers here, i'd assume, are not incredibly interested in whether or not they can buy a fractional FE from Cogent. My two cents. Best regards, Jeff On Wed, Feb 11,

RE: Cogent Question - Increments Question

Thank you - and that's fair enough. With more related topics in the past I've had folks blast me for not sharing back to the list regarding offline information. In this case, in hindsight I share your opinion and that would explain why all replies were offline. Apologies to the list and than

Re: Network diagram software

>>> On 2/11/2009 at 3:15 PM, wrote: > Quoting Mathias Wolkert : > >> I'd like to know what software people are using to document networks. >> Visio is obvious but feels like a straight jacket to me. >> I liked netviz but it seems owned by CA and unsupported nowadays. >> >> What do you use? >> >>

Re: J-series and Cisco ME3400 L2 Issues

Brad, We never had the problem, but, today, Juniper release the 9.4 version of Junos software. Maybe you can check the release notes to see if you find something related to. http://www.juniper.net/techpubs/en_US/junos9.4/information-products/topic-collections/release-notes/9.4/noframes-coll

Re: World famous cabling disasters?

Here's some from the University I formerly worked for.. All this is out of commission now, but it wasn't until fairly recently. http://flickr.com/photos/dcmorton/sets/72157604766108671/ -Derek On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 9:16 PM, joe mcguckin wrote: > I'm looking for a couple of pictures of the wo