Joe Greco wrote:
> How do you verify the authenticity of anything? This is a common problem
> in the Real World, and is hardly limited to LoA's.
>
> How do you prove that what was on Pages 1 to (N-1) of an N page contract
> contained the words you think they said? I knew a guy, back in the early
> Free sites that perform similar DNS configuration checks that I know of
> are:
>
> http://dnssy.com
> http://www.intodns.com
Just to add to the list:
http://squish.net/dnscheck/
Looks like PIE got themselves a /22 in spamhaus -
http://www.spamhaus.org/sbl/sbl.lasso?query=SBL67906
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206.223.144.0/22 is listed on the Spamhaus Block List (SBL)
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http://cidr-report.
On Tuesday 16 September 2008 23:36:20 *Hobbit* wrote:
>you expect them to apply a null route?
>
> Well, I *have* been talking somewhat idealistically here and
> there with this crop of questions, but frankly I thought in the
> 2 or 3 years I was ignoring the list that the NETWORK OPERATORS
> os
> Joe Greco wrote:
> > How do you verify the authenticity of anything? This is a common problem
> > in the Real World, and is hardly limited to LoA's.
> >
> > How do you prove that what was on Pages 1 to (N-1) of an N page contract
> > contained the words you think they said? I knew a guy, back
Putting things in the automated bogon feeds (e.g. Team Cymru) that are not
strictly bogons (unallocated addresses) is likely to very quickly erode trust
in those services, if that is what you are suggesting.
- S
-Original Message-
From: Lamar Owen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, Se
On Wed, 17 Sep 2008, Skywing wrote:
Putting things in the automated bogon feeds (e.g. Team Cymru) that are not
strictly bogons (unallocated addresses) is likely to very quickly erode trust
in those services, if that is what you are suggesting.
We all want a "really really bad stuff" BGP feed
On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 1:01 PM, Gadi Evron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Sep 2008, Skywing wrote:
>>
>> Putting things in the automated bogon feeds (e.g. Team Cymru) that are not
>> strictly bogons (unallocated addresses) is likely to very quickly erode
>> trust in those services, if tha
On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 1:07 PM, Christopher Morrow
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 1:01 PM, Gadi Evron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Wed, 17 Sep 2008, Skywing wrote:
>>>
>>> Putting things in the automated bogon feeds (e.g. Team Cymru) that are not
>>> strictly bogons (unal
Christopher Morrow wrote:
How about providing some open-source intelligence in a centralized and
machine-parsable fashion (perhaps with community input of intel even)
which would allow better decsions to be made?
Reputation based on src_addr is /so/ 2005. ASN has a few more legs
perhaps... b
On Sep 17, 2008, at 1:32 PM, David Ulevitch wrote:
Christopher Morrow wrote:
How about providing some open-source intelligence in a centralized
and
machine-parsable fashion (perhaps with community input of intel even)
which would allow better decsions to be made?
Reputation based on src_add
On Wednesday 17 September 2008 12:55:49 Skywing wrote:
>> Lamar Owen Wrote:
>> Seems to me getting that IP space on a bogon list could be enough to make a
>> serious dent.
> Putting things in the automated bogon feeds (e.g. Team Cymru) that are not
> strictly bogons (unallocated addresses) is like
On Wed, 17 Sep 2008, Christopher Morrow wrote:
On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 1:01 PM, Gadi Evron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Wed, 17 Sep 2008, Skywing wrote:
Putting things in the automated bogon feeds (e.g. Team Cymru) that are not
strictly bogons (unallocated addresses) is likely to very quickly
On Wednesday 17 September 2008 13:34:22 Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
> On Sep 17, 2008, at 1:32 PM, David Ulevitch wrote:
> > At the end of the day, nobody is going to drop packets for amazon's
> > IP space.
> I'm afraid reality disagrees with you - there already are networks
> doing it.
Indeed. Go
Lamar Owen wrote:
> On Wednesday 17 September 2008 13:34:22 Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
>> On Sep 17, 2008, at 1:32 PM, David Ulevitch wrote:
>>> At the end of the day, nobody is going to drop packets for amazon's
>>> IP space.
>
>> I'm afraid reality disagrees with you - there already are networks
On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 1:34 PM, Lamar Owen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The point made by Christopher Morrow is well taken:
>> There's the additional issue of allowing a third party to
>>manage/traffic-engineer inside your network which might upset some
>>operations folks. If you can build a list
See my comments inline below.
The one question I have coming out of this is:
If I want an economical sound solution that offers me high bandwidth and the
ability to ensure end-to-end QoS, what is my best choice?
So for it seems like a wavelength service meets those needs, with the negatives
be
On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 1:40 PM, Gadi Evron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Sep 2008, Christopher Morrow wrote:
>> How about providing some open-source intelligence in a centralized and
>> machine-parsable fashion (perhaps with community input of intel even)
>> which would allow better decs
On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 1:32 PM, David Ulevitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Christopher Morrow wrote:
>
>> How about providing some open-source intelligence in a centralized and
>> machine-parsable fashion (perhaps with community input of intel even)
>> which would allow better decsions to be made
> I occasionally get in to an argument with a customer who is trying to
> get mail from someone after a spam run came out of a google mail server
> and landed it on a DNSBL. The argument presented to me always boils down
> to "Google could never do anything wrong" or "Google is too big to do
> any
Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
On Sep 17, 2008, at 1:32 PM, David Ulevitch wrote:
At the end of the day, nobody is going to drop packets for amazon's IP
space.
I'm afraid reality disagrees with you - there already are networks doing
it.
Being big does not guarantee you ability to do Bad Things
David Schwartz wrote:
>> I occasionally get in to an argument with a customer who is trying to
>> get mail from someone after a spam run came out of a google mail server
>> and landed it on a DNSBL. The argument presented to me always boils down
>> to "Google could never do anything wrong" or "Goog
Some people would really like email to be as reliable as possible, even if
that means they have to wade through a lot of spam.
By what twisted logic can a system where desired email is found when "
they have to wade through a lot of spam"?
Have you ever inadvertently deleted a desired item
I'm so close to it, not attending is not really an option..
Peter
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ピーター
I've been in touch with all of the upstream transit providers
currently routing Atrivo/Intercage netblocks.
Without naming any names, they are all aware, and working on getting
them pulled in accordiance with their AUPs.
Hats off particularly to NTT and AboveNet for going the extra mile here.
(U
On Wednesday 17 September 2008 16:53:35 Laurence F. Sheldon, Jr. wrote:
> > Some people would really like email to be as reliable as possible, even
> > if that means they have to wade through a lot of spam.
>
> By what twisted logic can a system where desired email is found when "
> they have to wa
On Wed, 17 Sep 2008, David Ulevitch wrote:
Reputation based on src_addr is /so/ 2005. ASN has a few more legs
perhaps... but...
All the growth in Internet-connected compute clouds (EC2, AppNexus, GoGrid,
etc.) makes any system based around IP reputation decidedly less useful.
At the end of
2008/9/17 Peter Serwe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> I'm so close to it, not attending is not really an option..
Peter,
Your message was a little cryptic, but I assume you are
inquiring about the accomodations.
If you go to www.nanog.org, and then click on the link entitled
'Hotel Information,' (just
Actually, I was inquiring about the registration fee.
I live close enough and my gear is a few buildings down from the location.
Peter
On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 5:02 PM, Saul Moll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 2008/9/17 Peter Serwe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> I'm so close to it, not attending is not rea
Hello Everyone:>
As Philip Smith indicated... a few more update messages to the community will
be coming, and here is one of them.
First, Merit would like to draw your attention to the Hotel Reservation link
http://nanog.org/meetings/nanog44/hotel.php
An IMPORTANT NOTE to be aware of is, the Ho
Welcome the Internet version of "Too big to fail".
I like the corollary: If it's too big to fail, it's too big, and needs
to be broken up.
Otherwise, we get an oligarchy,
> -Original Message-
> From: Seth Mattinen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 11:27 AM
(My apologies, in advance, for the fact that this question is very long
winded.)
I have a server which is multi-homed to N routers as shown below:
+---+
R1---| |
| |
R2---| |
... | S |
| |
Rn---| |
+---+
This server is a host; it is not a router in the sense that i
Cayle Spandon wrote:
I have a server which is multi-homed to N routers as shown below:
+---+
R1---| |
| |
R2---| |
... | S |
| |
Rn---| |
+---+
This server is a host; it is not a router in the sense that it will never
forward any packets (but it might run routing
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ("Cayle Spandon") writes:
> (My apologies, in advance, for the fact that this question is very long
> winded.)
np.
> I have a server which is multi-homed to N routers as shown below:
>
> +---+
> R1---| |
> | |
> R2---| |
> ... | S |
> | |
> Rn---| |
>
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