Re: Avg. Packet Size - Again?

2008-07-16 Thread Glen Turner
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 16:44:48 PDT, Sean Hafeez said: I would be interested in find out what the average packet size people are seeing on their backbones is at this point and time? I predict that if you graph it, there's a ton of packets that are right around the MTU o

Re: Avg. Packet Size - Again?

2008-07-16 Thread Randy Bush
> Our network also shows peaks at the ethernet MTU (our MTU is higher > than that) and the DNS packet size. so who has been tracking packet size distributions for some years and has published or could provide data? randy

[NANOG-announce] Reminder: Presentation materials for NANOG44/45 are welcomed

2008-07-16 Thread Ren Provo
Hi folks, The tentative agenda for NANOG44 will be released shortly and registration will open for the October meeting. There are many time slots marked as 'speaker - pending' or 'tutorial - pending' due to abstracts lacking actual presentations. We believe there are many good ideas lurking with

Re: Avg. Packet Size - Again?

2008-07-16 Thread Jeff Kell
As Valdis stated earlier: I predict that if you graph it, there's a ton of packets that are right around the MTU of the network. almost equal number of tiny packets carrying the ACK's of the mobygrams, and then a small noise level of "everything else". That's pretty much the case for the last

Transit providers in Sri Lanka

2008-07-16 Thread Skeeve Stevens
Greetings all, We've been asked to look at building an ISP in Sri Lanka and I wanted to know if anyone had any of the following: - Transit providers in Colombo - Types of handoff's common in this location (Ethernet, ATM, etc) - Expected US$/mb of flat-rate traffic

Managed, cheap, DC power switches

2008-07-16 Thread Brandon Bennett
I have a need for cheap managed DC power switches for our OSS and Monitoring (backoffice). I was wondering what everyone else have found in this space. I am currently using Cisco 2950's, but those are still 2.5K list and seems like too much to spend on something so trivial. I am looking for some

Re: Avg. Packet Size - Again?

2008-07-16 Thread Fred Baker
CAIDA has been doing a lot of that, at least in the past. Last I asked them, which was quite a while back, they said that O(35%) of traffic in their samples was at the path MTU (which included 576 bytes for historical reasons), O(40%) was about the size of a TCP SYN or ACK, for reasons that

Enterprise VoIP Survey

2008-07-16 Thread nanog
Hello Everyone, I am doing a research project on VoIP deployment feasibility for a graduate degree. I am looking for people who have been involved with Enterprise level VoIP deployments that would be willing to fill out a short 10-15 question survey. Ideally I would like people who were involved i

Re: Enterprise VoIP Survey

2008-07-16 Thread Justin Ryburn
My apologies for not having my full name in the from field on the previous email. I just set myself up a new account to catch Nanog messages and forgot to set the name. -Justin > Hello Everyone, > > I am doing a research project on VoIP deployment feasibility for a > graduate degree. I am looking

Data about IPv6 fragmentation

2008-07-16 Thread Fernando Gont
Hello folks, Is anybody aware of any papers with real-world data about IPv6 fragmentation? I'd be interested in something along the lines of: Shannon, C., Moore, D., and Claffy, K.C. 2001. Characteristics of Fragmented IP Traffic on Internet Links. (but that focuses on IPv6 fragmentation, rat

RE: Managed, cheap, DC power switches

2008-07-16 Thread Tim Sanderson
2.5K? No way. Get used or refurbished from Network Hardware or similar outlet. We rarely buy new. Used gear works just fine. -- Tim Sanderson, network administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Brandon Bennett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 11:21

RE: Managed, cheap, DC power switches

2008-07-16 Thread Paul Stewart
Or at least buy Cisco refurb and save $$$...;) We have lots of 2950's in use ... moving to 2960's for low end applications currently - then moving to 3560 etc from there You might also checkout the Express500 stuff... more basic switch and priced right. Paul -Original Message-

Re: Managed, cheap, DC power switches

2008-07-16 Thread Jay R. Ashworth
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 01:59:54PM -0400, Tim Sanderson wrote: > 2.5K? No way. Get used or refurbished from Network Hardware or similar > outlet. We rarely buy new. Used gear works just fine. Indeed. I just had to put my hands on my GBICs and a module for a 4200vl on short notice, and convenientl

Announcement : publicly available LISP and shim6 implementations

2008-07-16 Thread Olivier Bonaventure
Hello, During the last years, there have been many discussions about the scalability of the Internet architecture notably within the IRTF RRG. With IPv6, thanks to its huge addressing space, it is possible to design protocols and mechanisms that are more scalable and more powerful than with IP

Re: Avg. Packet Size - Again?

2008-07-16 Thread Wayne E. Bouchard
This is about what I would expect but as others haev noted does not include jumbos. This says that the majority of packets are session control and open/close sequences on the one side and big, fat, WRED eligible data packets on the other side. This is consistant with the trends of youtube, "high

Re: Avg. Packet Size - Again?

2008-07-16 Thread Iddo
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 1:44 AM, Sean Hafeez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Most of the data and studies I have found on this topic are a bit out of > date. Here is the output from one of our "high volume" webservices router. IP packet size distribution (58785M total packets): 1-32 64 96 12

Re: Managed, cheap, DC power switches

2008-07-16 Thread Patrick Giagnocavo
Paul Stewart wrote: Or at least buy Cisco refurb and save $$$...;) We have lots of 2950's in use ... moving to 2960's for low end applications currently - then moving to 3560 etc from there You might also checkout the Express500 stuff... more basic switch and priced right. Paul Pleas

Re: Managed, cheap, DC power switches

2008-07-16 Thread Beavis
try getting a 2980G-A switch off of ebay. for 100bucks you get an 80 port 10/100 switch. sure it's EoL/EoS already but it works pretty well. cisco refurbished equipment will save you a lot of money. I've been dealing with these guys: duane and withlow www.dwc-computer.com/ www.network-liquidato