[NANOG] DWDM

2008-04-25 Thread Scott E. MacKenzie
Does anyone know where I can locate a list of DWDM networks deployed for Education, Science & Research, and Commercialization? We need to determine the practicality of DWDM use... Scott ___ NANOG mailing list NANOG@nanog.org http://mailman.nanog.org/

Re: [NANOG] DWDM

2008-04-25 Thread Randy Bush
Scott E. MacKenzie wrote: > Does anyone know where I can locate a list of DWDM networks deployed for > Education, Science & Research, and Commercialization? > > We need to determine the practicality of DWDM use... you seem to have missed menog unfortunately. you may want to come to the afren mee

Re: [NANOG] [Nanog] Routing Policy Information

2008-04-25 Thread Greg VILLAIN
On Apr 23, 2008, at 11:23 PM, Fouant, Stefan wrote: > > > Hi folks, > > Wondering if there is a good repository of information somewhere which > outlines the various major ISPs routing policies such as default > local-pref treatment for customers vs. peers, handling of MED, allowed > prefix-length

[NANOG] BGP Update Report

2008-04-25 Thread cidr-report
BGP Update Report Interval: 24-Mar-08 -to- 24-Apr-08 (32 days) Observation Point: BGP Peering with AS2.0 TOP 20 Unstable Origin AS Rank ASNUpds % Upds/PfxAS-Name 1 - AS949898654 1.3% 82.2 -- BBIL-AP BHARTI BT INTERNET LTD. 2 - AS958377229 1

[NANOG] The Cidr Report

2008-04-25 Thread cidr-report
This report has been generated at Fri Apr 25 21:19:56 2008 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org for a current version of this report. Recent Table History Date

Re: [NANOG] DWDM

2008-04-25 Thread Robert D. Scott
www.nlr.net www.internet2.edu These are the major players in the Education RONS that are self owned and managed. The nlr site will show the regional Robert D. Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] Senior Network Engineer 352-273-0113 Phone CNS - Network Services 352-392-2061

Re: [NANOG] DWDM

2008-04-25 Thread Kevin Barrass
The UK research and Education network is based on a DWDM backbone as far as I know. Some of the regional networks on the Janet backbone also use DWDM. http://www.ja.net/services/lightpath/index.html Regards Kev -Original Message- From: Robert D. Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 2

Re: [NANOG] DWDM

2008-04-25 Thread Neil J. McRae
The current technologies for DWDM have really made it technology that's reasonably straight forward to deploy. The last generation was a nightmare! Tuneable optics, dispersion compensation, and ROADM have made a substantial difference to deploying and operating DWDM networks. I had experience wi

[NANOG] Block: Road Runner Internal IP blacklist 72.22.18.105

2008-04-25 Thread Clinton Popovich
Greetings all, I am having a bit of trouble with Road Runner, we have been blocked repeatedly for email that I believe to have been sent out on the 19th. I have about 50,000 customers sitting behind this old mail server currently. I have emailed back in forth with someone from roadrunner and whe

Re: [NANOG] Block: Road Runner Internal IP blacklist 72.22.18.105

2008-04-25 Thread Matthew Evans
Road Runner utilizes a volume based spam block from my understanding. If you send over X amount of email in Y amount of time, they block you. You need to create a rule that staggers the number of messages you send to all rr.com domains so as to not trigger the threshold and become blocked. See h

[NANOG] nameserver / test point swap

2008-04-25 Thread Michael 'Moose' Dinn
I'm looking for someone to swap services with - we need a remote nameserver/test point, preferrably somewhere other than North America, and we can offer the same in return. Ideally we'd just trade small VMWare images (40G disk/512M RAM) but I'm open to other options as well. ___

Re: [NANOG] Block: Road Runner Internal IP blacklist 72.22.18.105

2008-04-25 Thread Bjørn Mork
Matthew Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Road Runner utilizes a volume based spam block from my > understanding. If you send over X amount of email in Y amount of time, > they block you. You need to create a rule that staggers the number of > messages you send to all rr.com domains so as to not

Re: [NANOG] Block: Road Runner Internal IP blacklist 72.22.18.105

2008-04-25 Thread Clinton Popovich
Honestly I doubt we are blasting Road Runner that hard. When I look thru the log files it really does not look that bad except for on the 19th. So I would have to say this is not how they have chosen to block me. Clinton Popovich Systems Administrator Consolidated Communications, Inc. Formerly Nau

Re: [NANOG] DWDM

2008-04-25 Thread Dale W. Carder
On Apr 25, 2008, at 3:00 AM, Scott E. MacKenzie wrote: > Does anyone know where I can locate a list of DWDM networks > deployed for > Education, Science & Research, and Commercialization? Here's a map showing some of the regional optical networks run by the R&E community. There's a lot more unr

Re: [NANOG] Block: Road Runner Internal IP blacklist 72.22.18.105

2008-04-25 Thread Clinton Popovich
This issue has been resolved thanks all! Clinton Popovich Systems Administrator Consolidated Communications, Inc. Formerly Nauticom Internet Services Tel: 724-933-9540 Fax: 724-933-9888 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Bjørn Mork [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday,

Re: [NANOG] DWDM More Details

2008-04-25 Thread John Lee
Scott, Do you want CWDM - Course Wave Division Multiplexing - > 100 nm optical spacing 1 - 10 x 2.5 - 10 Gbps lambdas DWDM - Dense Wave Division Multiplexing - =50 nm optical spacing 20 - 40 x 2.5 - 10 Gbps UDWDM - Ultra Dense Wave Division Multipl

Re: [NANOG] DWDM More Details

2008-04-25 Thread Alex Pilosov
On Fri, 25 Apr 2008, John Lee wrote: > Subscribe to Lightwave (at no charge) and look at the back issues for > networks. Show up at Supercom or OFC or what is replacing them and get the > latest on ROADM, full channel tunable lasers and maintenance costs. > > What size of network do you want t

Re: [NANOG] DWDM More Details

2008-04-25 Thread John Lee
alex, In your talk, I agree that the CAN with your CWDM is not that expensive but you also mention that the tighter DWDM with long haul optics is expensive ie "Everybody knows how to do (active) xWDM by giving a lot of money to (insert vendor of choice]:" When you talk about the tighter itu sp

Re: [NANOG] DWDM More Details

2008-04-25 Thread Alex Pilosov
On Fri, 25 Apr 2008, John Lee wrote: > In your talk, I agree that the CAN with your CWDM is not that expensive > but you also mention that the tighter DWDM with long haul optics is > expensive ie "Everybody knows how to do (active) xWDM by giving a lot of > money to (insert vendor of choice]:" >

[NANOG] Weekly Routing Table Report

2008-04-25 Thread Routing Analysis Role Account
This is an automated weekly mailing describing the state of the Internet Routing Table as seen from APNIC's router in Japan. Daily listings are sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For historical data, please see http://thyme.apnic.net. If you have any comments please contact Philip Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [NANOG] DWDM More Details

2008-04-25 Thread Dale W. Carder
On Apr 25, 2008, at 12:58 PM, Alex Pilosov wrote: > On Fri, 25 Apr 2008, John Lee wrote: > > I'd be curious to ask reverse question, did anyone *have* real > problems > deploying duct tape systems, or power jitter chromatic dispersion is > vendor mumbo jumbo designed to make you buy their gear?

Re: [NANOG] DWDM More Details

2008-04-25 Thread John Lee
Yes, but in very specific cases such as older ZD, NZD fiber and SMF with 20 or more lambdas (at 2.5 Gbps or less) and with Ultra long haul and ultra DWDM 600 - 800 miles, 25 nm spacing and fiber with too high a water vapor content and/or higher impurities in the fiber. If you have less than opti

Re: [NANOG] [Nanog] Routing Policy Information

2008-04-25 Thread Joe Abley
On 25 Apr 2008, at 06:34, Greg VILLAIN wrote: > On Apr 23, 2008, at 11:23 PM, Fouant, Stefan wrote: > >> Wondering if there is a good repository of information somewhere >> which >> outlines the various major ISPs routing policies such as default >> local-pref treatment for customers vs. peers,

[NANOG] Comcast Routing Issues

2008-04-25 Thread Gary T. Giesen
Anyone from Comcast (or anyone know anyone from Comcast) that can contact me regarding a routing issue on their network? I'm seeing some weird routing between a customer of mine and a /32 on our network. Traceroutes from customer site to two adjacent /32's on our network Working /32 1 * * *

Re: [NANOG] Comcast Routing Issues

2008-04-25 Thread Gary T. Giesen
Note that these addresses are advertised aggregated as a /19 from us to our peers. GG On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 4:10 PM, Gary T. Giesen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Anyone from Comcast (or anyone know anyone from Comcast) that can > contact me regarding a routing issue on their network? I'm seeing

Re: [NANOG] DWDM

2008-04-25 Thread Randy Bush
> Here's a map showing some of the regional optical networks > run by the R&E community. There's a lot more unrepresented ^ american > here, especially in metro environments. europe is similar. some of asia is similar. scott might better have asked what r&e communities were not dwdm.

[NANOG] Thank you SBC for routing around Cogent

2008-04-25 Thread Mike Fedyk
Now cogent isn't between my VoIP and my DSL: 1. adsl-63-194-NNN-NNN.dsl.lsan03.p 0.0%82 57.4 22.7 8.3 58.3 16.3 2. dist3-vlan60.irvnca.sbcglobal.ne 1.2%82 21.5 19.4 8.2 133.7 16.3 3. bb1-p6-7.emhril.ameritech.net 0.0%82 41.1 55.0 8.2 242.9 63.7 4. ex2-p14-0.eq