Re: ARIN Online update to provide auto-managed IRR objects for RPKI ROAs (Fwd: [arin-announce] New Features Added to ARIN Online)

> For those using RPKI, there is now optional functionality in ARIN > Online that allows for automatic syncing of IRR route objects to ROAs thank you for making it optional and giving the op the choice randy

ARIN Online update to provide auto-managed IRR objects for RPKI ROAs (Fwd: [arin-announce] New Features Added to ARIN Online)

NANOGers - For those using RPKI, there is now optional functionality in ARIN Online that allows for automatic syncing of IRR route objects to ROAs - see additional information below. FYI, /John John Curran President and CEO American Registry for Internet Numbers Begin forwarded message: Fro

IANA IPv6 Global Unicast Address Assignments Registry Update

Hi, The IANA IPv6 Global Unicast Address Assignments registry has been updated to reflect the allocation of the following block to APNIC: 2410::/12 APNIC 2024-11-01 You can find the registry at: https://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv6-unicast-address-assignments/ The allocation was made in acco

GOV zone operational update: DNSSEC transition to algorithm 13

Cloudflare will start the transition of the .GOV zone to use DNSSEC signing algorithm 13 (ECDSA P-256) about a week from now. We do not expect any action to be required by the operators of DNS resolvers or by end-users due to this change. This note is being sent as a courtesy, in the interests

Re: PRIX update

u know what i mean > want to welcome and send this update about PRIX > > https://www.puertoricoix.net has broken traffic record 30Gbps last week and > with some more caches in the process of being enabled as well as some key > peers (listed on the website), next goal is 100G and th

PRIX update

anymore but, you know what i mean want to welcome and send this update about PRIX https://www.puertoricoix.net has broken traffic record 30Gbps last week and with some more caches in the process of being enabled as well as some key peers (listed on the website), next goal is 100G and this can be

IANA AS Numbers Registry Update

Hi, The IANA AS Numbers registry has been updated to reflect the allocation of the following block to ARIN: 401309-402332 Assigned by ARIN 2024-04-10 You can find the registry at: https://www.iana.org/assignments/as-numbers/ The allocation was made in accordance with the Policy for Allocation

N90 Keynotes, Important Update on Hotel, Committee Nominations + More!

nt to delve deep into the OpenConfig journey or learn the legendary Internet history of our meeting location's state, check out our incredible Keynote Speakers for NANOG 90 lineup! *LEARN MORE <https://nanog.org/events/nanog-90/keynotes/>* *NANOG 90 Room Block Open* Important Update *

RE: NANOG 90 Venue Update

I know it’s the middle of the holidays, but is there an update on the venue yet? Eric From: NANOG On Behalf Of NANOG Support Sent: Friday, December 8, 2023 3:07 PM To: memb...@nanog.org; nanog@nanog.org Subject: NANOG 90 Venue Update Dear NANOG Community, This letter is an update on the

NANOG 90 Venue Update

Dear NANOG Community, This letter is an update on the upcoming NANOG 90, February 2024 conference. As we announced at NANOG 89, due to unforeseen circumstances, our contracted meeting venue canceled our contract and it became necessary for us to change the venue and date for the upcoming NANOG

IANA AS Numbers Registry Update

Hi, The IANA AS Numbers registry has been updated to reflect the allocation of the following blocks to the RIPE NCC: 213404-214427 Assigned by RIPE NCC 2023-08-10 214428-215451 Assigned by RIPE NCC 2023-08-10 215452-216475 Assigned by RIPE NCC 2023-08-10 You can find the registry at: https://ww

Re: Geoip database update

On Sat, Dec 17, 2022 at 04:58:18PM -0800, Randy Bush wrote: > https://www.rfc-archive.org/getrfc?rfc=9092 > > and note that massimo has a collio toolset > > https://github.com/massimocandela/geofeed-finder Rpki-client (version 8.2 and higher) supports authenticating signed Geofeed data a

Re: Geoip database update

> > darn shame there is no general automatable mechanism for this too many folk have written to ask. here is the clue by four https://www.rfc-archive.org/getrfc?rfc=9092 and note that massimo has a collio toolset https://github.com/massimocandela/geofeed-finder randy

Re: Geoip database update

darn shame there is no general automatable mechanism for this randy

Re: Geoip database update

I've been waiting for some updates since September, there are good and reputable geoIP services that accept updates and those that refuse to acknowledge issues or have no way to update. Some of the financial institutions and government agencies are examples of bad consumers of them, but

Re: Geoip database update

Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2022 11:39:45 AM Subject: Re: Geoip database update I have found that to be impossible. There are a few geoip databases but they all tend to operate the same, with specific update periods. I’ve been on the phone with maxmind etc and they simply have no way to h

Re: Geoip database update

I have found that to be impossible. There are a few geoip databases but they all tend to operate the same, with specific update periods. I’ve been on the phone with maxmind etc and they simply have no way to help and say we must wait. It’s really sad how they control so much important data yet

Re: Geoip database update

Nope The geo location provider generally update their database every two weeks, then their customer will take at least another two weeks. So a month is actually a fast timeline. On Sun, 18 Dec 2022 at 02:30, Mehmet Akcin wrote: > Hi > > Is there a way to force update/flush geoip

Geoip database update

Hi Is there a way to force update/flush geoip database faster than 30 days? I am trying to help a customer resolve some issues due to geoip. Thanks in advance -- Mehmet +1-424-298-1903

please update IP addressses for NLNOG Looking Glass BGP sessions

Hi, Here’s a friendly reminder that the IP addresses of the NLNOG Looking Glass BGP daemon has changed a few months ago. All sessions with the old addresses are currently offline. So if you’re peering with the NLNOG Looking Glass, please make sure you’re using the correct addresses: Here are

Fwd: [members-discuss] Cloud Innovation Ltd vs AFRINIC (SCR 5C/30/21) Court Update

FYI. Mark. Forwarded Message Subject: [members-discuss] Cloud Innovation Ltd vs AFRINIC (SCR 5C/30/21) Court Update Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2022 18:49:56 +0400 From: AFRINIC Communication To: AFRINIC Members Discuss Dear Colleagues, I am pleased to share with you

Re: [members-discuss] Update on legal case - Freeze of Bank accounts

Great news! On Fri, Oct 15, 2021 at 7:42 AM Mark Tinka wrote: > FYI. > > Step by step, the tyrants shall be stripped. > > Mark. > > Forwarded Message > Subject: [members-discuss] Update on legal case - Freeze of Bank accounts > Date: Fri, 15 Oct

Fwd: [members-discuss] Update on legal case - Freeze of Bank accounts

FYI. Step by step, the tyrants shall be stripped. Mark. Forwarded Message Subject:[members-discuss] Update on legal case - Freeze of Bank accounts Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2021 14:53:03 +0400 From: Eddy Kayihura To: AfriNIC Discuss Dear Colleagues, We are happy

Re: BGP communities, was: Re: Facebook post-mortems... - Update!

There are also a bunch at http://bgp.community (linked to the source where possible instead of keeping a stale copy). On Tue, Oct 5, 2021, 1:17 PM Jay Hennigan wrote: > On 10/5/21 09:49, Warren Kumari wrote: > > > Can someone explain to me, preferably in baby words, why so many > > providers vie

Re: Facebook post-mortems... - Update!

> Can someone explain to me, preferably in baby words, why so many providers > view information like https://as37100.net/?bgp as secret/proprietary? it shows we're important

BGP communities, was: Re: Facebook post-mortems... - Update!

On 10/5/21 09:49, Warren Kumari wrote: Can someone explain to me, preferably in baby words, why so many providers view information like https://as37100.net/?bgp as secret/proprietary? I've interacted with numerous providers who require an NDA or pinky-swear to get a

Re: Facebook post-mortems... - Update!

On Tue, Oct 5, 2021 at 9:56 AM Mark Tinka wrote: > > > On 10/5/21 15:40, Mark Tinka wrote: > > > > > I don't disagree with you one bit. It's for that exact reason that we > > built: > > > > https://as37100.net/ > > > > ... not for us, but specifically for other random network operators > > ar

Re: Facebook post-mortems... - Update!

On 10/5/21 15:40, Mark Tinka wrote: I don't disagree with you one bit. It's for that exact reason that we built:     https://as37100.net/ ... not for us, but specifically for other random network operators around the world whom we may never get to drink a crate of wine with. I have to

Re: update - Re: Facebook post-mortems...

>> Fairly abstract - Facebook Engineering - >> https://m.facebook.com/nt/screen/?params=%7B%22note_id%22%3A10158791436142200%7D&path=%2Fnotes%2Fnote%2F&_rdr >> > > My bad - might be best to ignore

Re: update - Re: Facebook post-mortems...

On 10/4/21 6:07 PM, jcur...@istaff.org wrote: On 4 Oct 2021, at 8:58 PM, jcur...@istaff.org wrote: Fairly abstract - Facebook Engineering - https://m.facebook.com/nt/screen/?params=%7B%22note_id%22%3A10158791436142200%7D&path=%2Fnotes%2Fnote%2F&_rdr

update - Re: Facebook post-mortems...

On 4 Oct 2021, at 8:58 PM, jcur...@istaff.org wrote: > > Fairly abstract - Facebook Engineering - > https://m.facebook.com/nt/screen/?params=%7B%22note_id%22%3A10158791436142200%7D&path=%2Fnotes%2Fnote%2F&_rdr > >

Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation

again, do not be distracted by the rather obvious DoS on this list. our administrative infra is being attacked. defend it by putting your money where your mouth is. https://www.tespok.co.ke/?page_id=14001 i did and will again. randy

Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation

On Wed, 1 Sep 2021, 22:46 Owen DeLong via NANOG, wrote: > > > > On Sep 1, 2021, at 04:48 , Mark Tinka wrote: > > > > > > > > On 9/1/21 00:56, Owen DeLong via NANOG wrote: > > > >> Not to put too fine a point on this, but what human cost? > >> > >> There were exactly 3 employees that AFRINIC wasn

Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation

> On Sep 1, 2021, at 13:30 , Tom Beecher wrote: > > They attacked a member on the basis of violations of rules that don’t > actually exist. > > You continually refer to AFRINIC's actions as an 'attack'. However, that > would seem to be an open question of law , which AFRINIC cannot litigate

Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation

> > They attacked a member on the basis of violations of rules that don’t > actually exist. > You continually refer to AFRINIC's actions as an 'attack'. However, that would seem to be an open question of law , which AFRINIC cannot litigate because they're have no access to their money. On Wed, S

Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation

> On Sep 1, 2021, at 04:48 , Mark Tinka wrote: > > > > On 9/1/21 00:56, Owen DeLong via NANOG wrote: > >> Not to put too fine a point on this, but what human cost? >> >> There were exactly 3 employees that AFRINIC wasn’t able to pay in July, >> including >> the CEO (who is one of the majo

Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation

> On Sep 1, 2021, at 04:21 , Tom Beecher wrote: > > AFRINIC has received clearance of enough money to cover their normal expenses > for August and September. As such, there shouldn’t be any problems with > salaries > or “human cost” in those months. Hopefully given that reprieve, cooler heads

Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation

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Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation

On Sep 1, 2021, at 5:56 AM, Mark Tinka wrote: > >  > >> On 9/1/21 13:21, Tom Beecher wrote: >> >> >> There are enough challenges with the internet in Africa to work through >> already. We shouldn't encourage more difficulties by endorsing strongarm >> tactics that prevent issues from being

Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation

On 9/1/21 13:21, Tom Beecher wrote: There are enough challenges with the internet in Africa to work through already. We shouldn't encourage more difficulties by endorsing strongarm tactics that prevent issues from being properly adjudicated in courts. One would think... There are many

Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation

On 9/1/21 00:56, Owen DeLong via NANOG wrote: Not to put too fine a point on this, but what human cost? There were exactly 3 employees that AFRINIC wasn’t able to pay in July, including the CEO (who is one of the major protagonists in creating this problem in the first place). I don’t know

Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation

On 8/31/21 22:55, Sabri Berisha wrote: I regret the true human cost that Mark pointed out, yet I am fascinated by the case and the arguments on both sides. The court will have their work cut out for them. The human cost has nothing to do with the wording of allocation language. That was j

Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation

On 8/31/21 22:37, Rubens Kuhl wrote: I can try helping with that: in underserved regions it's not unusual for network services for that population to be physically hosted out of the region. For instance, if you have a hosting service that only accepts South African rands and your language opt

Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation

On 8/31/21 22:28, Sabri Berisha wrote: It's easy to argue that CI is in full compliance with that since their assignment supports connectivity between users in Africa and their clients' services. In that case, only IP space used outside of Africa not advertised to the internet would be in vi

Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation

> > AFRINIC has received clearance of enough money to cover their normal > expenses > for August and September. As such, there shouldn’t be any problems with > salaries > or “human cost” in those months. Hopefully given that reprieve, cooler > heads at > AFRINIC can prevail and some form of settlem

Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation

>> I regret the true human cost that Mark pointed out, yet I am fascinated >> by the case and the arguments on both sides. The court will have their >> work cut out for them. > > That human cost came not from disagreement on the policies and > contract provisions, but from a vengeful action of fin

Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation

> On Aug 31, 2021, at 13:53 , Jon Lewis wrote: > > On Tue, 31 Aug 2021, Sabri Berisha wrote: > >> - On Aug 31, 2021, at 8:40 AM, Jon Lewis jle...@lewis.org wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> [ I'm not affiliated with CI in any way, just playing the Devil's Advocate ] >> >>> "5.4.6.2 AFRINIC resour

Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation

> > But you would need to be upfront with that, including mentioning that > > your upstreams are not from Africa and your installations won't be in > > Africa. > > Otherwise you applied for number resources under false pretenses, and > > will bear the risk of such. > > Again, fair enough. And what

Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation

- On Aug 31, 2021, at 1:37 PM, Rubens Kuhl rube...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Rubens, > On Tue, Aug 31, 2021 at 5:28 PM Sabri Berisha wrote: >> In all fairness, that is as ambiguous as it can be. What constitutes "support >> of connectivity back to the AfriNIC region"? > > I can try helping with t

Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation

On Tue, 31 Aug 2021, Sabri Berisha wrote: - On Aug 31, 2021, at 8:40 AM, Jon Lewis jle...@lewis.org wrote: Hi, [ I'm not affiliated with CI in any way, just playing the Devil's Advocate ] "5.4.6.2 AFRINIC resources are for AFRINIC service region and any use outside the region should be s

Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation

On Tue, Aug 31, 2021 at 5:28 PM Sabri Berisha wrote: > > - On Aug 31, 2021, at 8:40 AM, Jon Lewis jle...@lewis.org wrote: > > Hi, > > [ I'm not affiliated with CI in any way, just playing the Devil's Advocate ] > > > "5.4.6.2 AFRINIC resources are for AFRINIC service region and any use > > out

Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation

- On Aug 31, 2021, at 8:40 AM, Jon Lewis jle...@lewis.org wrote: Hi, [ I'm not affiliated with CI in any way, just playing the Devil's Advocate ] > "5.4.6.2 AFRINIC resources are for AFRINIC service region and any use > outside the region should be solely in support of connectivity back to t

Re: Operational need for IP address space (Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation)

> On Aug 31, 2021, at 12:17 , John Curran wrote: > > On 31 Aug 2021, at 2:23 PM, Owen DeLong > wrote: >> >>> Do we have parties who postulate their operational need based on entirely >>> internal services, or services that live within virtual devices in a data >>> ce

Re: Operational need for IP address space (Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation)

On 31 Aug 2021, at 2:23 PM, Owen DeLong mailto:o...@delong.com>> wrote: Do we have parties who postulate their operational need based on entirely internal services, or services that live within virtual devices in a data center? Sure… and some of these are indeed legitimate and fulfilled per

Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation

> On Aug 31, 2021, at 08:40 , Jon Lewis wrote: > > On Mon, 30 Aug 2021, Owen DeLong via NANOG wrote: > >> >> On Aug 30, 2021, at 18:00 , Rubens Kuhl wrote: >> >> AFRINIC approves IPv4 for the purpose of leasing every day. It’s what >> ISPs do. It’s the definition of an LIR. >>

Re: Operational need for IP address space (Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation)

> Do we have parties who postulate their operational need based on entirely > internal services, or services that live within virtual devices in a data > center? Sure… and some of these are indeed legitimate and fulfilled per > policy. We also have folks who get creative and make similar req

Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation

] > AFRINIC has never approved IPv4 for purposes of leasing. There is a public > statement to this effect. > > > Yes. Nonetheless, it does not change the fact that every LIR that is a > resource member of AFRINIC leases IPV4 addresses every day, nor does > it change the fact that every allocation

Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation

> On Aug 31, 2021, at 00:44 , Noah wrote: > > > > On Tue, 31 Aug 2021, 03:08 Owen DeLong, > wrote: > > >> On Aug 30, 2021, at 16:19 , Noah mailto:n...@neo.co.tz>> >> wrote: >> >> >> Owen, >> >> On Tue, 31 Aug 2021, 02:10 Owen DeLong via NANOG, >

Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation

On Mon, 30 Aug 2021, Owen DeLong via NANOG wrote: On Aug 30, 2021, at 18:00 , Rubens Kuhl wrote: AFRINIC approves IPv4 for the purpose of leasing every day. It’s what ISPs do. It’s the definition of an LIR. Yes, most LIRs are also in the connectivity business and provide

Operational need for IP address space (Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation)

On 30 Aug 2021, at 9:31 PM, Christopher Morrow wrote: > > (I'm going to regret this in the morning, but...) Perhaps... > On Mon, Aug 30, 2021 at 8:12 PM Owen DeLong via NANOG > wrote: > > AFRINIC approves IPv4 for the purpose of leasing every day. It’s what ISPs > do.

Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation

On Tue, 31 Aug 2021, 05:08 John Kristoff, wrote: > On Mon, 30 Aug 2021 16:29:48 -0700 > Owen DeLong via NANOG wrote: > > > Further, the registries are not engaged in the daily operations of the > internet. > > Hi Owen, > > Your statement above I have to insist is simply incorrect. In addition >

Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation

On Tue, 31 Aug 2021, 03:08 Owen DeLong, wrote: > > > On Aug 30, 2021, at 16:19 , Noah wrote: > > > Owen, > > On Tue, 31 Aug 2021, 02:10 Owen DeLong via NANOG, wrote: > >> >> >> > On Aug 30, 2021, at 07:44 , Mark Tinka wrote: >> > >> > >> > >> > On 8/30/21 16:19, Owen DeLong via NANOG wrote: >>

Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation

On 8/31/21 07:22, Owen DeLong wrote: Yes… AFRINIC’s actions of late are so illogical that when it comes to predicting them, all I can do is guess. And suing them for US$1.8 billion + garnishing US$50 million is significantly more logical. Got it. Mark.

Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation

> On Aug 30, 2021, at 22:21 , Mark Tinka wrote: > > > > On 8/31/21 07:16, Owen DeLong wrote: > >> I guess that depends on whether or not AFRINIC is willing to engage in a >> reasonable >> settlement effort within the next 2 months or not. >> >> I guess we’ll see what they do. > > Lots of

Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation

On 8/31/21 07:16, Owen DeLong wrote: I guess that depends on whether or not AFRINIC is willing to engage in a reasonable settlement effort within the next 2 months or not. I guess we’ll see what they do. Lots of guessing... Mark.

Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation

> On Aug 30, 2021, at 22:06 , Mark Tinka wrote: > > > > On 8/31/21 01:29, Owen DeLong via NANOG wrote: > >> Um, Mike, no… That’s neither a fair nor accurate characterization of the >> current >> situation. >> >> AFRINIC has been given access to the equivalent of two months of operating >

Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation

On 8/31/21 04:42, Tom Beecher wrote: It strikes me that ( without pointing at anyone in particular ) that there's a bit of absolutism trending in this conversation. It's possible for many things in this list to be true. - It's possible that AFRINIC may have been following it's policies ac

Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation

On 8/31/21 01:29, Owen DeLong via NANOG wrote: Um, Mike, no… That’s neither a fair nor accurate characterization of the current situation. AFRINIC has been given access to the equivalent of two months of operating costs from their bank accounts in a recent court ruling, so they are nowhere c

Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation

On 8/31/21 01:19, Nathan Angelacos wrote: Amen. Sucks to be moral. But at the end of the day, you have to go to sleep and say I did what was moral. To me, that is NANOG. Yep, easy to say when these "morals" are not threatening you and your family. Mark.

Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation

On 8/31/21 01:08, Owen DeLong wrote: Just as I would fight for the rights of those I disagree with to express their views in the US under the first amendment rights granted by the US Constitution. I fail to see how the U.S. Constitution is an applicable example for what CI are doing in Af

Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation

> On Aug 30, 2021, at 19:06 , John Kristoff wrote: > > On Mon, 30 Aug 2021 16:29:48 -0700 > Owen DeLong via NANOG wrote: > >> Further, the registries are not engaged in the daily operations of the >> internet. > > Hi Owen, > > Your statement above I have to insist is simply incorrect. In

Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation

we all, in true nanog tradition, sure do talk a lot. but, to repeat, i put my money where my mouth is. you should too. https://www.tespok.co.ke/?page_id=14001 randy

Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation

It strikes me that ( without pointing at anyone in particular ) that there's a bit of absolutism trending in this conversation. It's possible for many things in this list to be true. - It's possible that AFRINIC may have been following it's policies accurately at the time of the initial allocatio

Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation

On Mon, 30 Aug 2021 16:29:48 -0700 Owen DeLong via NANOG wrote: > Further, the registries are not engaged in the daily operations of the > internet. Hi Owen, Your statement above I have to insist is simply incorrect. In addition to the traditional services that are relied upon in a variety of

Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation

(I'm going to regret this in the morning, but...) On Mon, Aug 30, 2021 at 8:12 PM Owen DeLong via NANOG wrote: > > AFRINIC approves IPv4 for the purpose of leasing every day. It’s what ISPs > do. It’s the definition of an LIR. > > All of the RIR's do this, yes. Also, yes LIR/ISP allocate space t

Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation

> On Aug 30, 2021, at 18:00 , Rubens Kuhl wrote: > >> AFRINIC approves IPv4 for the purpose of leasing every day. It’s what ISPs >> do. It’s the definition of an LIR. >> >> Yes, most LIRs are also in the connectivity business and provide addresses >> (mostly/exclusively) to customers of thei

Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation

> AFRINIC approves IPv4 for the purpose of leasing every day. It’s what ISPs > do. It’s the definition of an LIR. > > Yes, most LIRs are also in the connectivity business and provide addresses > (mostly/exclusively) to customers of their connectivity services. Which is why CI informed AfriNIC in

Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation

> On Aug 30, 2021, at 16:32 , Noah wrote: > > > Owen > > On Tue, 31 Aug 2021, 02:10 Owen DeLong via NANOG, > wrote: > > So yes, I continue to work for and support Lu in this capacity because in > this case, I believe AFRINIC has overstepped its mandate > > If you

Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation

> On Aug 30, 2021, at 16:19 , Noah wrote: > > > Owen, > > On Tue, 31 Aug 2021, 02:10 Owen DeLong via NANOG, > wrote: > > > > On Aug 30, 2021, at 07:44 , Mark Tinka wrote: > > > > > > > > On 8/30/21 16:19, Owen DeLong via NANOG wrote: > > > >> You may not like L

Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation

Owen On Tue, 31 Aug 2021, 02:10 Owen DeLong via NANOG, wrote: > > So yes, I continue to work for and support Lu in this capacity because in > this case, I believe AFRINIC has overstepped its mandate If you believe, then we leave it at that. Its beliefs. and acted contrary to its own policies

Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation

gt;>> And that's why carpet bombing those IP blocks might be needed so the next >> >> entity that ends up with those IP addresses long after CI has gone into >> oblivion will have its engineers debug odd routing issues for years. We all >> know that people regularl

Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation

On Mon, 2021-08-30 at 16:08 -0700, Owen DeLong via NANOG wrote: > > > > I am here doing what I am doing because I have ethics and morals. > Because even though I often disagree with Lu, in this case, he > happens to be right and AFRINIC must not be allowed to act so > irresponsibly in this matte

Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation

Owen, On Tue, 31 Aug 2021, 02:10 Owen DeLong via NANOG, wrote: > > > > On Aug 30, 2021, at 07:44 , Mark Tinka wrote: > > > > > > > > On 8/30/21 16:19, Owen DeLong via NANOG wrote: > > > >> You may not like Lu and/or his business model. I’m not a fan of his > business model myself, but it is tec

Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation

> On Aug 30, 2021, at 07:44 , Mark Tinka wrote: > > > > On 8/30/21 16:19, Owen DeLong via NANOG wrote: > >> You may not like Lu and/or his business model. I’m not a fan of his business >> model myself, but it is technically permitted under existing policy. > > And yet you continue to work

Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation

- On Aug 30, 2021, at 12:37 PM, Rubens Kuhl rube...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, >> I've ran an RBL for years, which many people used. It closed down more than >> a decade ago. Out of 100 DNS queries I logged just now with a quick tcpdump >> on one of my three DNS servers, I counted 51 for rbl.cluece

Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation

> I really, really don't want to upset Mel more than he already is, but Owen > shared a link with an actual order of the court. After "consideration of the > affidavit" the court allowed "up to" $50 million to be frozen. Whatever the > merits of the affidavit are, it indicates that the court looked

Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation

> > After "consideration of the > affidavit" the court allowed "up to" $50 million to be frozen. Whatever the > merits of the affidavit are, it indicates that the court looked at the > facts, > made a determination and based on that ordered the asset freeze. > There's an important distinction to b

Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation

- On Aug 30, 2021, at 11:18 AM, Rubens Kuhl rube...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Rubens, First and foremost, I appreciate that you're keeping it civil. > On Mon, Aug 30, 2021 at 2:35 PM Sabri Berisha wrote: >> The learned people on this list do not strike me as the kind of person to >> go out an

Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation

I has gone into > oblivion will have its engineers debug odd routing issues for years. We all > know that people regularly fail to update their manually entered filters on > at least a few of their routers. We already have IP blocks with so much "background radiation" that RIRs p

Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation

ube...@gmail.com wrote: > > > And that's why carpet bombing those IP blocks might be needed so the next > > entity that ends up with those IP addresses long after CI has gone into > oblivion will have its engineers debug odd routing issues for years. We all > know that peop

Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation

. We all know that people regularly fail to update their manually entered filters on at least a few of their routers. The learned people on this list do not strike me as the kind of person to go out and engage in vigilante justice if a court decides against them. The very fabric of our civilized

Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation

No stress, Valerie. I kind of knew it was borderline. I mean no disrespect. It just irks me that non-African entities are coming into Africa to cause unnecessary and unneeded problems, for Africa. Mark. On 8/30/21 17:17, Valerie Wittkop wrote: My apologies to Mark - I sent a message in erro

Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation

No stress, Valerie. I kind of new it was borderline. I mean no disrespect. It just irks me that non-African entities are coming into Africa to cause unnecessary and unneeded problems, for Africa. Mark. On 8/30/21 17:17, Valerie Wittkop wrote: My apologies to Mark - I sent a message in error

Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation

On Fri, Aug 27, 2021 at 10:38:01PM +0200, Mark Tinka wrote a message of 13 lines which said: > Oddly, I recommended to a friend (one who promotes competitors do the wrong > thing, hehe) that sending CI routes to /dev/null would be ideal. Trollish idea of the day: since it is an IPv4-specific

Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation

My apologies to Mark - I sent a message in error to the full list that should have been sent privately. Valerie Wittkop Program Director vwitt...@nanog.org | +1 734-730-0225 (mobile) | www.nanog.org NANOG | 305 E. Eisenhower Pkwy, Suite 100 | Ann Arbor, MI 48108, USA ASN 19230 > On Aug 30, 202

Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation

Please be mindful of usage guideline number 6 - Behavior or posts that are defamatory, abusive, profane, threatening, or include foul language, character assassination, and lack of respect for other participants are prohibited. Valerie Wittkop Program Director vwitt...@nanog.org | +1 734-730-0

Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation

NANOG Mail list users, This thread has had a few twists and turns, as well as ups and downs. So I am taking a moment on behalf of the admins to remind everyone here of the Usage Guidelines . First and foremost - please repor

Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation

> You may not like Lu and/or his business model. I’m not a fan of his business > model myself, but it is technically permitted under existing policy. If the > community doesn’t like that fact, there is a process to change the policies. > Terminating a member based on rules which don’t actually e

Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation

On 8/30/21 16:19, Owen DeLong via NANOG wrote: You may not like Lu and/or his business model. I’m not a fan of his business model myself, but it is technically permitted under existing policy. And yet you continue to work for and support him in this capacity. But hey, you have to eat. Ma

Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation

On 8/30/21 16:19, Owen DeLong via NANOG wrote: This is neither a fair nor accurate portrayal of the situation. Further, by acting as it had, AFRINIC was the one which tried to suffocate CI first. Yeah... look ma, he started it... You may not like Lu and/or his business model. I’m not a

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