RE: optical gear cooling requirements

2015-03-05 Thread Vinny_Abello
ect: Re: optical gear cooling requirements On 04/03/2015 21:33, Jay Hennigan wrote: > We used Livingston Portmaster 3 back in the day. Front to back > ventilation, ran cool as a cucumber, plug it in and it just worked. > Awesome gear until Lucent bought the company to kill the product in

RE: optical gear cooling requirements

2015-03-05 Thread Vinny_Abello
5, 2015 10:10 AM To: Matthew Crocker; Nick Hilliard Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: RE: optical gear cooling requirements It is interesting where this conversation turned. But for history's sake... NAC started on PM2e with Microcom's, and then USR Sportster. I remember USR sending us PROM chi

RE: optical gear cooling requirements

2015-03-05 Thread Alex Rubenstein
It is interesting where this conversation turned. But for history's sake... NAC started on PM2e with Microcom's, and then USR Sportster. I remember USR sending us PROM chips to change from 28.8 to 33.6. After that, PM3's. We were early PM3 users, working with Megazone on an almost continuous bas

Re: optical gear cooling requirements

2015-03-04 Thread Matthew Crocker
> > On Mar 4, 2015, at 4:54 PM, Nick Hilliard wrote: > > On 04/03/2015 21:33, Jay Hennigan wrote: >> We used Livingston Portmaster 3 back in the day. Front to back >> ventilation, ran cool as a cucumber, plug it in and it just worked. >> Awesome gear until Lucent bought the company to kill the p

Re: optical gear cooling requirements

2015-03-04 Thread Colin Johnston
energis pop the cab doors would not open due to heat warping after loaded with two tnt max colin Sent from my iPhone > On 4 Mar 2015, at 21:04, "Ricky Beam" wrote: > >> On Tue, 03 Mar 2015 20:52:44 -0500, Martin Hannigan >> wrote: >> Remember the Ascend MAX TNT and the sideways left-right a

Re: optical gear cooling requirements

2015-03-04 Thread Nick Hilliard
On 04/03/2015 21:33, Jay Hennigan wrote: > We used Livingston Portmaster 3 back in the day. Front to back > ventilation, ran cool as a cucumber, plug it in and it just worked. > Awesome gear until Lucent bought the company to kill the product in > favor of their Ascend TNT space heaters. Ascend ki

RE: optical gear cooling requirements

2015-03-04 Thread Naslund, Steve
>> On Tue, 03 Mar 2015 20:52:44 -0500, Martin Hannigan >> >> wrote: >>> Remember the Ascend MAX TNT and the sideways left-right airflow? >> ... >> >> Indeed I do. I see you've heard the story of PSINet melting components >> as well. >> >> We used USR(3Com) TotalControl hardware: vertical venti

RE: optical gear cooling requirements

2015-03-04 Thread Naslund, Steve
I remember that there was an Ascend DSLAM built on the same chassis and it was collocated by someone into Ameritech central offices. Ameritech shut them all down saying that there was no way, no how that the device could be NEBS compliant. I don't know how that fight ever turned out, they were

Re: optical gear cooling requirements

2015-03-04 Thread Jay Hennigan
On 3/4/15 13:04, Ricky Beam wrote: > On Tue, 03 Mar 2015 20:52:44 -0500, Martin Hannigan > wrote: >> Remember the Ascend MAX TNT and the sideways left-right airflow? > ... > > Indeed I do. I see you've heard the story of PSINet melting components > as well. > > We used USR(3Com) TotalControl har

Re: optical gear cooling requirements

2015-03-04 Thread Ricky Beam
On Tue, 03 Mar 2015 20:52:44 -0500, Martin Hannigan wrote: Remember the Ascend MAX TNT and the sideways left-right airflow? ... Indeed I do. I see you've heard the story of PSINet melting components as well. We used USR(3Com) TotalControl hardware: vertical venting. The chimney effect w

Re: optical gear cooling requirements

2015-03-03 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Martin Hannigan said: > Remember the Ascend MAX TNT and the sideways left-right airflow? The > preferred method of deployment was three tall in a two post rack, mid > mount. Shoot, only three tall? With the original dual-slot modem cards and separate HDLC cards, it took three c

Re: optical gear cooling requirements

2015-03-03 Thread Martin Hannigan
Alex, Remember the Ascend MAX TNT and the sideways left-right airflow? The preferred method of deployment was three tall in a two post rack, mid mount. At the end of about the 10th row you could literally cook a steak and subsequently burn out the gear beyond that point. We fashioned our own divid

Re: optical gear cooling requirements

2015-03-03 Thread Edward Salonia
Cisco makes an Air Plenum for front/back air flow. - M6 chassis: http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/optical/hardware/15454install/guide/hig15454/hig_15454M6.html#pgfId-863233 - M2 chassis: http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/optical/hardware/15454install/guide/hig15454/hig_15454M2.html#pgfId-62

Re: optical gear cooling requirements

2015-03-03 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 2:51 PM, Rob Seastrom wrote: > > You can always put baffles above and beneath to channel the air > into/from your hot/cold aisles. Makes it nice to be able to have the > connectors on whichever side is convenient. or you know, rotate the equipment in the rack...

Re: optical gear cooling requirements

2015-03-03 Thread Rob Seastrom
Alex Rubenstein writes: > My question: have the > optical folks woken up and made things cool front to back, or are > they still in to the bottom to top world? Unless something's changed, AT&T NEDS still reads "Systems exhausting more than 50 W/sq ft must exhaust the air vertically.". You can

optical gear cooling requirements

2015-03-03 Thread Alex Rubenstein
The rock has turned over for a moment and I have crawled out. It is good to see the sunlight from time to time. Those who know me know my life has gotten away from networking and that sort of thing, and I am fully immersed in datacenter design and construction for IT type loads (blades, compute