Re: couple of questions regarding 'lifeline' and large scale nat...

2012-02-11 Thread Masataka Ohta
Leo Bicknell wrote: >> The applications can simply be debugged to use socket option >> of REUSEPORT. > > "Simple" is subjective. To "the problems of some applications that make thousands of TCP connections in a short order eating up ports makes it a nightmare to manage and debug", I gave you an

Re: couple of questions regarding 'lifeline' and large scale nat...

2012-02-10 Thread Carlos Alcantar
15:19:24 -0600 To: "nanog@nanog.org" Subject: couple of questions regarding 'lifeline' and large scale nat... We're toying with the idea of a low bitrate 'lifeline' internet on our cable system, maybe even bundled with a certain level of cable service. F

Re: couple of questions regarding 'lifeline' and large scale nat...

2012-02-10 Thread Joe Hamelin
On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 1:19 PM, Eric J Esslinger wrote: > We're toying with the idea of a low bitrate 'lifeline' internet on our > cable system, maybe even bundled with a certain level of cable service. > > First question, if you happen to be doing something like this, what bit > rates are you pr

Re: couple of questions regarding 'lifeline' and large scale nat...

2012-02-10 Thread Leo Bicknell
In a message written on Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 09:19:46AM +0900, Masataka Ohta wrote: > The applications can simply be debugged to use socket option > of REUSEPORT. "Simple" is subjective. Keep in mind many users will have a home gateway which also does NAT. And indeed double NAT in the home (rou

Re: couple of questions regarding 'lifeline' and large scale nat...

2012-02-10 Thread Masataka Ohta
Leo Bicknell wrote: > UPNP, NAT-PMP, the ability to enter static bypasses (DMZ's, NAT > passthrough), combined with the problems of some applications that > make thousands of TCP connections in a short order eating up ports > makes it a nightmare to manage and debug. The applications can simply b

Re: couple of questions regarding 'lifeline' and large scale nat...

2012-02-10 Thread Leo Bicknell
In a message written on Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 03:19:24PM -0600, Eric J Esslinger wrote: > First question, if you happen to be doing something like this, what bit rates > are you providing. Comcast has a program with some of the best marketing around it right now, their Internet Essentials service

couple of questions regarding 'lifeline' and large scale nat...

2012-02-10 Thread Eric J Esslinger
We're toying with the idea of a low bitrate 'lifeline' internet on our cable system, maybe even bundled with a certain level of cable service. First question, if you happen to be doing something like this, what bit rates are you providing. Second question, though 'real' internet customers all ge