Re: coprorations using BGP for advertising prefixes in mid-1990s

2011-05-13 Thread Jessica Yu
orn Hetzel Cc: nanog@nanog.org Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 2:37 PM Subject: Re: coprorations using BGP for advertising prefixes in mid-1990s > Date: Thu, 12 May 2011 17:15:17 -0400 > From: Dorn Hetzel > > > > > > > The actual number would be considerably smaller as

Re: coprorations using BGP for advertising prefixes in mid-1990s

2011-05-13 Thread c...@daydream.com
The Smarties in this part of the world don't come in boxes. :-) CJ On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 10:10 PM, wrote: > And if you had a great question or response, would you get a box of > Smarties? > > Robert > > > -- Sent from my Palm Pre > > -- > On May 12, 2011 10:54

Re: coprorations using BGP for advertising prefixes in mid-1990s

2011-05-13 Thread Kevin Oberman
> From: Tony Li > Date: Thu, 12 May 2011 16:47:54 -0700 > > On May 12, 2011, at 2:37 PM, Kevin Oberman wrote: > > > Does no one remember EGP? ASNs are MUCH older than BGP. And we were > > using BGPv3 prior to the existence of V4. We used BGPv4 back in the days > > when Tony Li would chastise us

Re: coprorations using BGP for advertising prefixes in mid-1990s

2011-05-12 Thread Tony Li
On May 12, 2011, at 9:41 PM, Brett Watson wrote: > Hell, you knew from the image name wether Tony, Ravi, Dino, etc have built > the image. It was quite personal back then :) And then some bright fellow started hitting on our build engineers and... that was the end of that. ;-( Tony

Re: coprorations using BGP for advertising prefixes in mid-1990s

2011-05-12 Thread Brett Watson
On May 12, 2011, at 8:53 PM, c...@daydream.com wrote: > Yes images had names in them and in 1989 you could call cisco if your box > was broken and Eileen would just send parts. Hell, you knew from the image name wether Toni, Ravi, Dino, etc have built the image. It was quite personal back then :

Re: coprorations using BGP for advertising prefixes in mid-1990s

2011-05-12 Thread bobbyjim
And if you had a great question or response, would you get a box of Smarties? Robert -- Sent from my Palm Pre __ On May 12, 2011 10:54 PM, c...@daydream.com wrote: Yes images had names in them and in 1989 you

Re: coprorations using BGP for advertising prefixes in mid-1990s

2011-05-12 Thread c...@daydream.com
Yes images had names in them and in 1989 you could call cisco if your box was broken and Eileen would just send parts. Cathy On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 9:44 PM, Adrian Chadd wrote: > On Fri, May 13, 2011, Hank Nussbacher wrote: > > > I always liked seeing the string "tli" in the IOS bundle in t

Re: coprorations using BGP for advertising prefixes in mid-1990s

2011-05-12 Thread Hank Nussbacher
On Fri, 13 May 2011, Hank Nussbacher wrote: On Thu, 12 May 2011, Tony Li wrote: To be fair, that was for folks on the isp-geeks mailing list, who were effectively doing alpha test with me. I was fixing about 1 significant bug per day and doing at least one release per day. 10 day old code

Re: coprorations using BGP for advertising prefixes in mid-1990s

2011-05-12 Thread Adrian Chadd
On Fri, May 13, 2011, Hank Nussbacher wrote: > I always liked seeing the string "tli" in the IOS bundle in those days. Whoa, you mean Cisco IOS images have "built by" names other than "prod rel team" ? (heh.) Adrian

Re: coprorations using BGP for advertising prefixes in mid-1990s

2011-05-12 Thread Hank Nussbacher
On Thu, 12 May 2011, Tony Li wrote: To be fair, that was for folks on the isp-geeks mailing list, who were effectively doing alpha test with me. I was fixing about 1 significant bug per day and doing at least one release per day. 10 day old code was missing at least 10 fixes... ;-) And t

Re: coprorations using BGP for advertising prefixes in mid-1990s

2011-05-12 Thread Brett Watson
On May 12, 2011, at 4:47 PM, Tony Li wrote: > To be fair, that was for folks on the isp-geeks mailing list, who were > effectively doing alpha test with me. I was fixing about 1 significant bug > per day and doing at least one release per day. 10 day old code was missing > at least 10 fixes..

Re: coprorations using BGP for advertising prefixes in mid-1990s

2011-05-12 Thread Tony Li
On May 12, 2011, at 2:37 PM, Kevin Oberman wrote: > Does no one remember EGP? ASNs are MUCH older than BGP. And we were > using BGPv3 prior to the existence of V4. We used BGPv4 back in the days > when Tony Li would chastise us for reporting a bug in a 10 day old Cisco > build saying that we coul

Re: coprorations using BGP for advertising prefixes in mid-1990s

2011-05-12 Thread c...@daydream.com
My name is Cathy and I used to EGP. :-) wow that's a blast from the past. In the late 80s the NSFNet used EGP. That's why the RADB came to be. EGP only tolerated one route to any destination. Otherwise lots of fun loops. :-) Kevin, when I configured ESNet to go from EGP to BGP (in the early

Re: coprorations using BGP for advertising prefixes in mid-1990s

2011-05-12 Thread George Herbert
On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 3:44 PM, Jay Ashworth wrote: > - Original Message - >> From: "Valdis Kletnieks" > >> On Thu, 12 May 2011 14:53:53 CDT, Michael Sabino said: >> > If you are a big corporation, and it is 1995, how likely is it that >> > you'll utilize bgp for advertising your address

Re: coprorations using BGP for advertising prefixes in mid-1990s

2011-05-12 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - > From: "Valdis Kletnieks" > On Thu, 12 May 2011 14:53:53 CDT, Michael Sabino said: > > If you are a big corporation, and it is 1995, how likely is it that > > you'll utilize bgp for advertising your address space to the internet? > > Well, we got AS1312 sometime bef

Re: coprorations using BGP for advertising prefixes in mid-1990s

2011-05-12 Thread George Herbert
On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 2:58 PM, Dorn Hetzel wrote: >> >> Does no one remember EGP? ASNs are MUCH older than BGP. And we were >> using BGPv3 prior to the existence of V4. We used BGPv4 back in the days >> when Tony Li would chastise us for reporting a bug in a 10 day old Cisco >> build saying that

Re: coprorations using BGP for advertising prefixes in mid-1990s

2011-05-12 Thread Dorn Hetzel
> > Does no one remember EGP? ASNs are MUCH older than BGP. And we were > using BGPv3 prior to the existence of V4. We used BGPv4 back in the days > when Tony Li would chastise us for reporting a bug in a 10 day old Cisco > build saying that we could not expect BGPv4 code over a week old to > work.

Re: coprorations using BGP for advertising prefixes in mid-1990s

2011-05-12 Thread Kevin Oberman
> Date: Thu, 12 May 2011 17:15:17 -0400 > From: Dorn Hetzel > > > > > > > The actual number would be considerably smaller as there were large > > (for some definition of large) block assignments of ASNs <~1000 or so > > to various academic networking entities such as NSFNet and regional > > netwo

Re: coprorations using BGP for advertising prefixes in mid-1990s

2011-05-12 Thread Dorn Hetzel
> > > The actual number would be considerably smaller as there were large > (for some definition of large) block assignments of ASNs <~1000 or so > to various academic networking entities such as NSFNet and regional > networks as well as other Federal/Military networking organisations. > > -dorian

Re: coprorations using BGP for advertising prefixes in mid-1990s

2011-05-12 Thread Dorian Kim
On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 04:21:59PM -0400, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: > On Thu, 12 May 2011 14:53:53 CDT, Michael Sabino said: > > If you are a big corporation, and it is 1995, how likely is it that you'll > > utilize bgp for advertising your address space to the internet? > > Well, we got AS13

Re: coprorations using BGP for advertising prefixes in mid-1990s

2011-05-12 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Thu, 12 May 2011 14:53:53 CDT, Michael Sabino said: > If you are a big corporation, and it is 1995, how likely is it that you'll > utilize bgp for advertising your address space to the internet? Well, we got AS1312 sometime before 1996 (the *last changed* timestamp is 19960207), that sort of im

Re: coprorations using BGP for advertising prefixes in mid-1990s

2011-05-12 Thread Matthew Kaufman
On May 12, 2011, at 12:53 PM, Michael Sabino wrote: > If you are a big corporation, and it is 1995, how likely is it that you'll > utilize bgp for advertising your address space to the internet? > > Thanks, > Michael Sabino Big? Very. Matthew Kaufman

coprorations using BGP for advertising prefixes in mid-1990s

2011-05-12 Thread Michael Sabino
If you are a big corporation, and it is 1995, how likely is it that you'll utilize bgp for advertising your address space to the internet? Thanks, Michael Sabino