Re: Zayo zColo Xcon Pricing

2018-03-09 Thread Jim Shankland
On 3/7/18 9:00 AM, Ian Mock wrote: Everything is negotiable. NRC on a cross-connect is ridiculous. The cost to run should be made up with the amount they're charging monthly. I wouldn't pay more than $200/mo for copper. Actually, as a reflection of the provider's cost, NRC for a cross-connect m

Re: Zayo zColo Xcon Pricing

2018-03-09 Thread Ian Mock
Everything is negotiable. NRC on a cross-connect is ridiculous. The cost to run should be made up with the amount they're charging monthly. I wouldn't pay more than $200/mo for copper. Ian Mock On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 9:10 AM, James Laszko wrote: > One of our colo’s in San Diego was purchased by

RE: Zayo zColo Xcon Pricing

2018-03-07 Thread Romeo Czumbil
: Wednesday, March 7, 2018 1:32 PM Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Zayo zColo Xcon Pricing Sure, but that's just a cost of doing business. There's not a line-item for cleaning the bathroom. Frankly, I don't know why there are trays full of hundreds of pairs instead of each cage havin

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2018-03-07 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 3/7/18 11:35 AM, Stephen Satchell wrote: Because it's a capital outlay up front, instead of a build-as-you-need-it with the capital investment spread over time. There's no cost if the customer is charged for it when they need it.

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2018-03-07 Thread Stephen Satchell
On 03/07/2018 10:31 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: Frankly, I don't know why there are trays full of hundreds of pairs instead of each cage having a patch panel and a 144 or some such trunk to another patch panel elsewhere. Seems like there's a lot of extra work being done. Because it's a capital ou

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2018-03-07 Thread Matt Erculiani
like there's a lot of extra work being done. > > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > > Midwest Internet Exchange > > The Brothers WISP > > - Original Message - > > From: "Seth Mattinen" > To: nanog@nanog.org

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2018-03-07 Thread Ethan
Frankly, I don't know why there are trays full of hundreds of pairs instead of each cage having a patch panel and a 144 or some such trunk to another patch panel elsewhere. Seems like there's a lot of extra work being done. I have seen this in one facility. They just run 24 strand or whatever

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2018-03-07 Thread Mike Hammett
like there's a lot of extra work being done. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Seth Mattinen" To: nanog@nanog.org Sent: Wednesday, March 7, 2018 12:17:01 PM Subject: Re:

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2018-03-07 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 3/7/18 10:02 AM, Romeo Czumbil wrote: Ohh no NRC. Reason = Somebody has to pull back the cables (aka cut the ends off) You mean you're not supposed to let cables pile up indefinitely until they become an immovable tangled mass?

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2018-03-07 Thread Romeo Czumbil
Ohh no NRC. Reason = Somebody has to pull back the cables (aka cut the ends off) -Original Message- From: Mel Beckman [mailto:m...@beckman.org] Sent: Wednesday, March 7, 2018 11:56 AM To: Romeo Czumbil Cc: James Laszko ; nanog Subject: Re: Zayo zColo Xcon Pricing NRC? Do you

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2018-03-07 Thread Paul Timmins
og.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, March 7, 2018 9:09 AM Cc: nanog Subject: Re: Zayo zColo Xcon Pricing I'm sure he means what he says. The cost to remove the cross connect when you're done with it. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest I

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2018-03-07 Thread chris
f ethernet. The xcon fee monthly is 25% of > the price of the ethernet service we're getting from the telco > > > James > > -Original Message- > From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett > Sent: Wednesday, March 7, 2018 9:09 AM &

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2018-03-07 Thread Keith Stokes
ou ask for a disconnect. Then you get hit again for a hefty NRC -Original Message- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of James Laszko Sent: Wednesday, March 7, 2018 10:11 AM To: nanog mailto:nanog@nanog.org>> Subject: Zayo zColo Xcon Pricing One of our colo’

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2018-03-07 Thread James Laszko
g.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, March 7, 2018 9:09 AM Cc: nanog Subject: Re: Zayo zColo Xcon Pricing I'm sure he means what he says. The cost to remove the cross connect when you're done with it. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet

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2018-03-07 Thread Mike Hammett
bil" Cc: "nanog" Sent: Wednesday, March 7, 2018 10:55:32 AM Subject: Re: Zayo zColo Xcon Pricing NRC? Do you mean ETC (early termination charge)? This is a sore point with me in all telco contracts. They want a one- or two-year term, or even three, and in exchange give you a

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2018-03-07 Thread Aaron
ain for a hefty NRC -Original Message- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of James Laszko Sent: Wednesday, March 7, 2018 10:11 AM To: nanog Subject: Zayo zColo Xcon Pricing One of our colo’s in San Diego was purchased by Zayo recently and I requested a new coppe

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2018-03-07 Thread Clayton Zekelman
a disconnect. Then you get hit again for a hefty NRC > > > > > > -Original Message- > From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of James Laszko > Sent: Wednesday, March 7, 2018 10:11 AM > To: nanog > Subject: Zayo zColo Xcon Pricing > >

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2018-03-07 Thread Mel Beckman
hefty NRC > > > > > > -Original Message- > From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of James Laszko > Sent: Wednesday, March 7, 2018 10:11 AM > To: nanog > Subject: Zayo zColo Xcon Pricing > > One of our colo’s in San Diego was purcha

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2018-03-07 Thread Romeo Czumbil
Wait till you ask for a disconnect. Then you get hit again for a hefty NRC -Original Message- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of James Laszko Sent: Wednesday, March 7, 2018 10:11 AM To: nanog Subject: Zayo zColo Xcon Pricing One of our colo’s in San Diego was

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2018-03-07 Thread Matt Erculiani
Depending on the location (x-conns carrier hotels are typically more expensive) I'd expect to pay anywhere from $100-$200 per month for copper. -Matt On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 9:10 AM, James Laszko wrote: > One of our colo’s in San Diego was purchased by Zayo recently and I requested > a new coppe

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2018-03-07 Thread Mike Hammett
Too much, whatever it is. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "James Laszko" To: "nanog" Sent: Wednesday, March 7, 2018 9:10:45 AM Subject: Zayo zColo Xcon Pricing

Zayo zColo Xcon Pricing

2018-03-07 Thread James Laszko
One of our colo’s in San Diego was purchased by Zayo recently and I requested a new copper Ethernet xcon to be placed. After a few days I received a quote from my new rep quoting a MRC 3x what I’m currently paying for existing xcon’s as well as a hefty NRC as well. Anyone have any experience w