Re: Wow, just when you though big government was someone else's problem

2009-04-05 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Sun, 05 Apr 2009 12:58:50 EDT, Michael Barker said: > Seems like they're following up on Department of Defense Directive 8570.01, > whereas all Information Assurance personnel (that being defined as anyone > with privileged access) are required to be certified. Sort of what I was worried about

RE: Wow, just when you though big government was someone else's problem

2009-04-05 Thread Michael Barker
m.pdf -Original Message- From: valdis.kletni...@vt.edu [mailto:valdis.kletni...@vt.edu] Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 4:13 AM To: Suresh Ramasubramanian Cc: nanog@nanog.org; Jeff Young Subject: Re: Wow, just when you though big government was someone else's problem On Sat, 04 Apr 200

Re: Wow, just when you though big government was someone else's problem

2009-04-05 Thread John Schnizlein
] Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2009 8:20 PM To: Suresh Ramasubramanian Cc: nanog@nanog.org; Jeff Young Subject: Re: Wow, just when you though big government was someone else's problem I suggest that we wait until the actual text of S.778 actually shows up at http://thomas.loc.gov before reacti

Re: Wow, just when you though big government was someone else's problem

2009-04-05 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Sat, 04 Apr 2009 16:16:24 +0530, Suresh Ramasubramanian said: > Do you by any chance get to go work on sensitive government networks > without, say, a security clearance? What the draft actually says: SEC. 7. LICENSING AND CERTIFICATION OF CYBERSECURITY PROFESSIONALS. (a) IN GENERAL. - Withi

RE: Wow, just when you though big government was someone else's problem

2009-04-04 Thread Marcus H. Sachs
PM To: Suresh Ramasubramanian Cc: nanog@nanog.org; Jeff Young Subject: Re: Wow, just when you though big government was someone else's problem I suggest that we wait until the actual text of S.778 actually shows up at http://thomas.loc.gov before reacting to hyperbolic analysis of draft

Re: Wow, just when you though big government was someone else's problem

2009-04-04 Thread John Schnizlein
I suggest that we wait until the actual text of S.778 actually shows up at http://thomas.loc.gov before reacting to hyperbolic analysis of drafts not actually assigned to the Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs. Although I am concerned with what has been attributed to t

Re: Wow, just when you though big government was someone else's problem

2009-04-04 Thread Florian Weimer
* Jeff Young: > If only we knew: to achieve a secure DNS all you need to do is > publish a notice in the Federal Register. In the end, this is how we got many of our (non-public-key) cryptographic algorithms, and people seem to be quite happy about them.

Re: Wow, just when you though big government was someone else's problem

2009-04-04 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 9:47 PM, Jeff Young wrote: > Read it again.  It says all government networks and any network the > president deems vital, I'd have to assume that would at least be all of the > major backbones. Deeming something vital / critical has a whole lot of extra baggage attached to

Re: Wow, just when you though big government was someone else's problem

2009-04-04 Thread John Bambenek
Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 2:33 PM, Jeff Young wrote: This comes from Lauren Weinstein's list and it's worth a read. It's a bill introduced into legislation, who knows where and when and if it will become law but, wow. http://lauren.vortex.com/Cyber-S-2009.pdf

Re: Wow, just when you though big government was someone else's problem

2009-04-04 Thread Jeff Young
Read it again. It says all government networks and any network the president deems vital, I'd have to assume that would at least be all of the major backbones. What's the point of picking on the source of the information? Sure his list is moderated and a bit self-serving, that's why you r

Re: Wow, just when you though big government was someone else's problem

2009-04-04 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 2:33 PM, Jeff Young wrote: > This comes from Lauren Weinstein's list and it's worth a read. > It's a bill introduced into legislation, who knows where and when > and if it will become law but, wow. > > http://lauren.vortex.com/Cyber-S-2009.pdf Relying on Lauren to hear abou

Wow, just when you though big government was someone else's problem

2009-04-04 Thread Jeff Young
This comes from Lauren Weinstein's list and it's worth a read. It's a bill introduced into legislation, who knows where and when and if it will become law but, wow. http://lauren.vortex.com/Cyber-S-2009.pdf I'll just give you a teaser: SEC. 9. SECURE DOMAIN NAME ADDRESSING SYSTEM. 3 (a) INGEN