Re: VoLTE and SRTP

2022-03-08 Thread Michael Thomas
On 3/8/22 4:32 PM, Tom Beecher wrote: Don't need to break phone to tower encryption when the vast majority of the call pathway is not encrypted. If it's VoLTE I assume it would be sips: Mike On Tue, Mar 8, 2022 at 4:59 PM Michael Thomas wrote: Hi, I was reading an article on why R

Re: VoLTE and SRTP

2022-03-08 Thread Sean Donelan
On Tue, 8 Mar 2022, Michael Thomas wrote: Hi, I was reading an article on why Russia hasn't taken out Ukraine's mobile networks and one of the premises was that they could use it to eavesdrop on calls. During World War I, the British Empire did this. It strategically cut telegraph cables wit

Re: VoLTE and SRTP

2022-03-08 Thread Tom Beecher
Don't need to break phone to tower encryption when the vast majority of the call pathway is not encrypted. On Tue, Mar 8, 2022 at 4:59 PM Michael Thomas wrote: > > Hi, I was reading an article on why Russia hasn't taken out Ukraine's > mobile networks and one of the premises was that they could

Re: VoLTE and SRTP

2022-03-08 Thread Michael Thomas
On 3/8/22 2:17 PM, Brandon Svec wrote: I also read that the Russian military is depending on the mobile network for some (much?) of their own communication which isn't that surprising if the stories about their general ineptness are to be believed.  Maybe the reverse is happening and Ukraine a

Re: VoLTE and SRTP

2022-03-08 Thread Brandon Svec via NANOG
I also read that the Russian military is depending on the mobile network for some (much?) of their own communication which isn't that surprising if the stories about their general ineptness are to be believed. Maybe the reverse is happening and Ukraine and allies are listening in on Russian soldie

Re: VoLTE and SRTP

2022-03-08 Thread Raymond Burkholder
On 2022-03-08 2:58 p.m., Michael Thomas wrote: Hi, I was reading an article on why Russia hasn't taken out Ukraine's mobile networks and one of the premises was that they could use it to eavesdrop on calls. Depending on how old their infrastructure is, that doesn't make sense as I would ass

VoLTE and SRTP

2022-03-08 Thread Michael Thomas
Hi, I was reading an article on why Russia hasn't taken out Ukraine's mobile networks and one of the premises was that they could use it to eavesdrop on calls. Depending on how old their infrastructure is, that doesn't make sense as I would assume that along with e2e SIP that they'd be using