Re: EXTERNAL: Re: VoIP Provider DDoSes

2021-09-28 Thread Eric Kuhnke
> *From: *"Ray Orsini" > *To: *"Mike Hammett" , "NANOG" > *Sent: *Wednesday, September 22, 2021 8:15:51 AM > *Subject: *Re: EXTERNAL: Re: VoIP Provider DDoSes > > Yes there are. I was about to message Steve about the correction. Corer

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: VoIP Provider DDoSes

2021-09-27 Thread Mike Hammett
rsini" To: "Mike Hammett" , "NANOG" Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 8:15:51 AM Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: Re: VoIP Provider DDoSes Yes there are. I was about to message Steve about the correction. Corero and path.net are options. There are others. OIT Website

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: VoIP Provider DDoSes

2021-09-22 Thread K. Scott Helms
behalf of Mike Hammett > *Date: *Wednesday, September 22, 2021 at 9:29 AM > *To: *Terrance Devor > *Cc: *NANOG list > *Subject: *[EXTERNAL] Re: VoIP Provider DDoSes > > > > *CAUTION:* The e-mail below is from an external source. Please exercise > caution before opening

Re: VoIP Provider DDoSes

2021-09-22 Thread Christopher Morrow
rsing? > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > Midwest-IX > http://www.midwest-ix.com > > -- > *From: *"Terrance Devor" > *To: *"Mike Hammett" > *Cc:

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: VoIP Provider DDoSes

2021-09-22 Thread K. Scott Helms
o/twitter> > [image: YouTube] <https://go.oit.co/youtube> > > *How are we doing? We'd love to hear your feedback. https://go.oit.co/review* > <https://go.oit.co/review> > -- > *From:* NANOG on behalf of Mike > Hammett > *Sent:

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: VoIP Provider DDoSes

2021-09-22 Thread Compton, Rich A
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: VoIP Provider DDoSes CAUTION: The e-mail below is from an external source. Please exercise caution before opening attachments, clicking links, or following guidance. Fail2Ban on a couple of dozen servers may not be sufficient to address 400 gigs of traffic. - Mike Hammett

Re: VoIP Provider DDoSes

2021-09-22 Thread Mike Hammett
e Hammett" Cc: "NANOG" Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 10:24:07 AM Subject: Re: VoIP Provider DDoSes Fail2Ban and give ourselves a pat on the back.. On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 9:12 AM Mike Hammett < na...@ics-il.net > wrote: https://twit.tv/shows/security-now/episod

Re: VoIP Provider DDoSes

2021-09-22 Thread Terrance Devor
ider of large pipe VoIP protocol DDoS > protection." > > Are any of the cloud DDoS mitigation services offering a service like this. > > -- > *From: *"Mike Hammett" > *To: *"NANOG" > *Sent: *Tuesday, September 21, 2

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: VoIP Provider DDoSes

2021-09-22 Thread Ray Orsini
love to hear your feedback. https://go.oit.co/review From: NANOG on behalf of Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 9:08:22 AM To: NANOG Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: VoIP Provider DDoSes CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not click links or open attach

Re: VoIP Provider DDoSes

2021-09-22 Thread Mike Hammett
like this. - Original Message - From: "Mike Hammett" To: "NANOG" Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 4:19:42 PM Subject: VoIP Provider DDoSes As many may know, a particular VoIP supplier is suffering a DDoS. https://twitter.com/voipms Are your garden variet

RE: [EXTERNAL] VoIP Provider DDoSes

2021-09-22 Thread Brian Turnbow via NANOG
Hi >Something you may want to consider is to put ACLs as far upstream as possible >from your SBCs and only allow through what you need to the SBCs.  For example, >apply a filter only permitting UDP 5060 and your RTP port range to your SBCs >and then blocking everything else.  This is free and s

Re: VoIP Provider DDoSes

2021-09-21 Thread Mike Hammett
- Original Message - From: "Eric Kuhnke" To: "Mike Hammett" Cc: "NANOG" Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 6:09:07 PM Subject: Re: VoIP Provider DDoSes Unlike http based services which can be placed behind cloudflare or similar, harder to protect sip tru

Re: VoIP Provider DDoSes

2021-09-21 Thread james jones
Brandon, Actually, i work for a company that just purchased a start up that deals with DDOS for WebRTC, Websockets and grpc. Mike, I could see that, especially since HTTP 3.0 is UDP. On Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 9:47 PM Brandon Svec via NANOG wrote: > Never heard of that one. WebRTC is maybe easie

Re: VoIP Provider DDoSes

2021-09-21 Thread Michael Thomas
On 9/21/21 6:46 PM, Brandon Svec via NANOG wrote: Never heard of that one. WebRTC is maybe easier to protect from DDOS? I was just kidding/2. But webrtc don't have a signaling protocol. It can be SIP but it can be completely home brewed too. Mike Brandon On Sep 21, 2021, at 5:37 PM,

Re: VoIP Provider DDoSes

2021-09-21 Thread Brandon Svec via NANOG
Never heard of that one. WebRTC is maybe easier to protect from DDOS? Brandon > On Sep 21, 2021, at 5:37 PM, Michael Thomas wrote: > > Which makes SIPoHTTP an inevitability. > > Mike

Re: VoIP Provider DDoSes

2021-09-21 Thread Michael Thomas
On 9/21/21 4:09 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: Unlike http based services which can be placed behind cloudflare or similar, harder to protect sip trunking servers. The provider in question makes use of third party hosting services for each of their cities' POPs. It is my understanding that for the m

Re: VoIP Provider DDoSes

2021-09-21 Thread Eric Kuhnke
Unlike http based services which can be placed behind cloudflare or similar, harder to protect sip trunking servers. The provider in question makes use of third party hosting services for each of their cities' POPs. It is my understanding that for the most part they do not run their own infrastruc

Re: [EXTERNAL] VoIP Provider DDoSes

2021-09-21 Thread Compton, Rich A
mpton, Rich A" Cc: NANOG list Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] VoIP Provider DDoSes CAUTION: The e-mail below is from an external source. Please exercise caution before opening attachments, clicking links, or following guidance. *nods* We have a Metaswitch SBC. So as long as the pipe isn't full

Re: [EXTERNAL] VoIP Provider DDoSes

2021-09-21 Thread Mike Hammett
dwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: "Rich A Compton" To: "Mike Hammett" , "NANOG" Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 4:59:06 PM Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] VoIP Provider DDoSes Most of the larger DDoS mitigation appliances can block malformed SIP tra

Re: [EXTERNAL] VoIP Provider DDoSes

2021-09-21 Thread Compton, Rich A
proxy based firewall just for VoIP. -Rich From: NANOG on behalf of Mike Hammett Date: Tuesday, September 21, 2021 at 3:31 PM To: NANOG list Subject: [EXTERNAL] VoIP Provider DDoSes CAUTION: The e-mail below is from an external source. Please exercise caution before opening attachments, clicking

Re: VoIP Provider DDoSes

2021-09-21 Thread Jared Geiger
Simwood's blog has a few articles from the past couple weeks with commentary on the attacks to voip providers in the UK. https://blog.simwood.com/2021/09/voip-ddos-fail-to-prepare/ On Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 2:31 PM Mike Hammett wrote: > As many may know, a particular VoIP supplier is suffering a D

VoIP Provider DDoSes

2021-09-21 Thread Mike Hammett
As many may know, a particular VoIP supplier is suffering a DDoS. https://twitter.com/voipms Are your garden variety DDoS mitigation platforms or services equipped to handle DDoSes of VoIP services? What nuances does one have to be cognizant of? A WAF doesn't mean much to SIP, IAX2, RTP, etc.