Re: VMware Training

2014-02-21 Thread Eugeniu Patrascu
On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 7:37 PM, Phil Gardner wrote: > On 02/19/2014 01:14 PM, Phil Gardner wrote: > >> Not sure if this list is the best place, but it is probably the only >> list that I'm on that won't give me a bunch of grief about the chosen >> technology. >> >> I looked at VMware's site, and

Re: VMware Training

2014-02-21 Thread Phil Gardner
On 02/19/2014 01:14 PM, Phil Gardner wrote: Not sure if this list is the best place, but it is probably the only list that I'm on that won't give me a bunch of grief about the chosen technology. I looked at VMware's site, and there are a ton of options. I'm wondering if anyone has some basic sug

Re: VMware Training

2014-02-20 Thread Eugeniu Patrascu
On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 9:49 PM, Dan Shoop wrote: > > On Feb 20, 2014, at 1:48 PM, Jimmy Hess wrote: > > > The locking restrictions are for your own protection. If the filesystem > > inside your virtual disks is not a clustered filesystem; > > two instances of a VM simultaneously mounting the

Re: VMware Training

2014-02-20 Thread Dan Shoop
On Feb 20, 2014, at 1:48 PM, Jimmy Hess wrote: > The locking restrictions are for your own protection. If the filesystem > inside your virtual disks is not a clustered filesystem; > two instances of a VM simultaneously mounting the same NTFS volume and > writing some things, is an absolute dis

Re: VMware Training

2014-02-20 Thread Dan Shoop
[See below] On Feb 19, 2014, at 10:46 PM, Jay Ashworth wrote: > Why bother with a clustering FS, then, if you cannot actually /use it/ as one? > - jra > > On February 19, 2014 10:44:22 PM EST, Jimmy Hess wrote: >> On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 2:06 PM, Jay Ashworth wrote: >> >>> - Original Me

Re: VMware Training

2014-02-20 Thread Jimmy Hess
On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 9:46 PM, Jay Ashworth wrote: > Why bother with a clustering FS, then, if you cannot actually /use it/ as > one? > It is used as one.It is also a lot more convenient to have a shared filesystem, than a distributed volume manager. You could think of VMDK files on a VM

Re: VMware Training

2014-02-20 Thread Eugeniu Patrascu
On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 8:16 PM, Jay Ashworth wrote: > - Original Message - > > From: "Eugeniu Patrascu" > > > On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 10:06 PM, Jay Ashworth > > wrote: > > > > > - Original Message - > > > My understanding of "cluster-aware filesystem" was "can be mounted at > t

Re: VMware Training

2014-02-20 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - > From: "Eugeniu Patrascu" > On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 10:06 PM, Jay Ashworth > wrote: > > > - Original Message - > > My understanding of "cluster-aware filesystem" was "can be mounted at the > > physical block level by multiple operating system instances with

Re: VMware Training

2014-02-20 Thread Eugeniu Patrascu
On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 10:06 PM, Jay Ashworth wrote: > - Original Message - > > From: "Eugeniu Patrascu" > > > If you want block storage, just export an iSCSI device to the ESXi > machines > > (tgtadm on RedHat is all you need and a few gigs of free space). VMFS is > > cluster aware so

Re: VMware Training

2014-02-20 Thread Dave Bell
It means your VMs can run on any host and access the files it requires. If this was not the case then you could not tolerate a hardware failure and expect your VMs to survive. It also means you can do things like evacuate a host and take it down for maintenance. Of course you could build your appl

Re: VMware Training

2014-02-19 Thread Jay Ashworth
Why bother with a clustering FS, then, if you cannot actually /use it/ as one? - jra On February 19, 2014 10:44:22 PM EST, Jimmy Hess wrote: >On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 2:06 PM, Jay Ashworth wrote: > >> - Original Message - >> > From: "Eugeniu Patrascu" >> [snip] >> My understanding of "cl

Re: VMware Training

2014-02-19 Thread Jimmy Hess
On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 2:06 PM, Jay Ashworth wrote: > - Original Message - > > From: "Eugeniu Patrascu" > [snip] > My understanding of "cluster-aware filesystem" was "can be mounted at the > physical block level by multiple operating system instances with complete > safety". That seems

Re: VMware Training

2014-02-19 Thread Jimmy Hess
On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 12:14 PM, Phil Gardner wrote: Seeing you are a Linux admin;VMware's prof. training offerings are basic "point and click" things, not very Linux-admin friendly; no advanced subjects or even CLI usage in "Install, Configure, Manage". If you are already at the level of

Re: VMware Training

2014-02-19 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - > From: "Eugeniu Patrascu" > If you want block storage, just export an iSCSI device to the ESXi machines > (tgtadm on RedHat is all you need and a few gigs of free space). VMFS is > cluster aware so you can export the same volume to independent ESXi hosts > and as lon

Re: VMware Training

2014-02-19 Thread Matt Chung
Hey Phil, I recently did the VCP certification/course through VMWare however I was working with the technology over the past 5 years. Based off your desire to gain experience with it, my recommendation is to load up VMware Workstation on your computer and deploy ESXi instances as the guests. This i

Re: VMware Training

2014-02-19 Thread Eugeniu Patrascu
On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 8:14 PM, Phil Gardner wrote: > Not sure if this list is the best place, but it is probably the only list > that I'm on that won't give me a bunch of grief about the chosen technology. > > I looked at VMware's site, and there are a ton of options. I'm wondering > if anyone h

VMware Training

2014-02-19 Thread Phil Gardner
Not sure if this list is the best place, but it is probably the only list that I'm on that won't give me a bunch of grief about the chosen technology. I looked at VMware's site, and there are a ton of options. I'm wondering if anyone has some basic suggestions or experiences. I'm a Linux adm