Re: US to relinquish control of Internet

2014-03-21 Thread Paul Ferguson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On a related note, another great way to keep track of new ICANN registry agreements is the gTLD Tech mailing list: https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gtld-tech ...and the gTLD Notification list: https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gtldnotific

Re: US to relinquish control of Internet

2014-03-19 Thread Eliot Lear
Patrick: On 3/15/14, 12:42 AM, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: > (As if the US has "control" anyway) > > It's all over the "popular press", strange I haven't seen it here. > > > > >

Re: US to relinquish control of Internet

2014-03-16 Thread Joe Loiacono
Larry Sheldon wrote on 03/15/2014 06:07:33 PM: > From: Larry Sheldon > To: nanog@nanog.org > Date: 03/15/2014 06:09 PM > Subject: Re: US to relinquish control of Internet > > On 3/15/2014 7:39 AM, Bob Evans wrote: > >> Was I being a pollyanna? > > > > Y

Re: US to relinquish control of Internet

2014-03-15 Thread Jimmy Hess
On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 9:36 PM, Owen DeLong wrote: >On the other hand, I am very concerned about what they would do to the >numbers side of things.. Just keep their grubby paws off the IETF and the internet standards process. I doubt there's much reason for concern. IPv4 is pretty much

Re: US to relinquish control of Internet

2014-03-15 Thread Miles Fidelman
Owen DeLong wrote: What's the worst they can do at this point? Make .bobtodd and .bubbagump TLDs? This is different from some of the crap we've got now in what way?? I’m not too worried about what they could do to TLDs… It would be hard to make a bigger mess than ICANN already has. On the othe

Re: US to relinquish control of Internet

2014-03-15 Thread Owen DeLong
> > What's the worst they can do at this point? Make .bobtodd and > .bubbagump TLDs? This is different from some of the crap we've got now > in what way?? I’m not too worried about what they could do to TLDs… It would be hard to make a bigger mess than ICANN already has. On the other hand, I am

Re: US to relinquish control of Internet

2014-03-15 Thread John R. Levine
What's the worst they can do at this point? Make .bobtodd and .bubbagump TLDs? This is different from some of the crap we've got now in what way?? Well, ICANN has come pretty close to delegating .HOME and .CORP to domain speculators, despite the vast amount of informal use which would get badly

Re: US to relinquish control of Internet

2014-03-15 Thread Wayne E Bouchard
On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 08:08:47PM -0400, John R. Levine wrote: > >The ITU is an agency of the United Nations.Which is an organization > >created by treaty, of which various nations' governments are members. > > Actually, the ITU is more than twice as old as the UN, and merged with the >

Re: US to relinquish control of Internet

2014-03-15 Thread John R. Levine
The ITU is an agency of the United Nations.Which is an organization created by treaty, of which various nations' governments are members. Actually, the ITU is more than twice as old as the UN, and merged with the UN in 1947. As noted in a previous message, the ITU has both government

Re: US to relinquish control of Internet

2014-03-15 Thread Jimmy Hess
On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 12:17 PM, John Levine wrote: > >> Let's hope you're right, but I note that the ITU isn't an > >> inter-governmental organization, > >It was able to obtain a delegation for ITU.INT, so it's > >inter-governmental enough in DNS terms. > Yes, it was delegated a month before TP

Re: US to relinquish control of Internet

2014-03-15 Thread Miles Fidelman
Bob Evans wrote: (As if the US has "control" anyway) It's all over the "popular press", strange I haven't seen it here.

Re: US to relinquish control of Internet

2014-03-15 Thread Larry Sheldon
On 3/15/2014 7:39 AM, Bob Evans wrote: It's nice of the DoC to "relinquish" control, but I really don't see it changing much other than quieting down some hype from countries that were saying they were pissed at the US for "controlling" the Internet. And I couldn't really see those countries doin

Re: US to relinquish control of Internet

2014-03-15 Thread Bob Evans
> (As if the US has "control" anyway) > > It's all over the "popular press", strange I haven't seen it here. > > > > >

Re: US to relinquish control of Internet

2014-03-15 Thread John Levine
>> Let's hope you're right, but I note that the ITU isn't an >> inter-governmental organization, > >It was able to obtain a delegation for ITU.INT, so it's >inter-governmental enough in DNS terms. Yes, it was delegated a month before TPC.INT was. Could you clarify the point you're making? R's, J

Re: US to relinquish control of Internet

2014-03-15 Thread Florian Weimer
* John R. Levine: > Let's hope you're right, but I note that the ITU isn't an > inter-governmental organization, It was able to obtain a delegation for ITU.INT, so it's inter-governmental enough in DNS terms.

Re: US to relinquish control of Internet

2014-03-14 Thread John Springer
On Fri, 14 Mar 2014, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: (As if the US has "control" anyway) It's all over the "popular press", strange I haven't seen it here.

Re: US to relinquish control of Internet

2014-03-14 Thread Owen DeLong
On Mar 14, 2014, at 8:13 PM, John R. Levine wrote: >>> I look forward to the ITU equitably allocating domain names and IP >>> addresses. > >> "NTIA will not accept a proposal that replaces the NTIA role with a >> government or an inter-governmental organization solution." > > Let's hope you'r

Re: US to relinquish control of Internet

2014-03-14 Thread John Curran
On Mar 14, 2014, at 11:13 PM, John R. Levine wrote: > >> "NTIA will not accept a proposal that replaces the NTIA role with a >> government or an inter-governmental organization solution." > > Let's hope you're right, but I note that the ITU isn't an inter-governmental > organization, it's (dep

Re: US to relinquish control of Internet

2014-03-14 Thread John R. Levine
I look forward to the ITU equitably allocating domain names and IP addresses. "NTIA will not accept a proposal that replaces the NTIA role with a government or an inter-governmental organization solution." Let's hope you're right, but I note that the ITU isn't an inter-governmental organizat

Re: US to relinquish control of Internet

2014-03-14 Thread John Curran
On Mar 14, 2014, at 9:19 PM, John Levine wrote: > > I look forward to the ITU equitably allocating domain names and IP > addresses. While it is not possible to know what will happen in the future, we do have some idea of what _won't_ happen: >From >

Re: US to relinquish control of Internet

2014-03-14 Thread John Levine
>Was I being a pollyanna? I look forward to the ITU equitably allocating domain names and IP addresses. R's, John

US to relinquish control of Internet

2014-03-14 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
(As if the US has "control" anyway) It's all over the "popular press", strange I haven't seen it here.