James Hess wrote:
>It's not the tool or list itself, but the horrible manner in which
>someone chose to use the list.
Exactly. We can't be responsible for what our users are doing.
>Those places who chose to perform cut offs blindly based on the
>listing are responsible, and have their o
On 2009/05/08 03:31 PM Claus v. Wolfhausen wrote:
Why do you believe people which are using Level 3 are not aware what it is
doing?
The real problem is it's not just UCEProtect.
http://www.senderbase.org/
I see too many IronPort's at ISP's using these reputation filters and
blocking anyone w
On Fri, 8 May 2009 09:46:38 -0400
"Matt Liotta" wrote:
>
> On May 8, 2009, at 9:31 AM, Claus v. Wolfhausen wrote:
>
> > Why do you believe people which are using Level 3 are not aware
> > what it is
> > doing?
>
> I am guessing the emails from uninformed victims wondering why their
> mail is
Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 12:04 AM, Raleigh Apple wrote:
Is anyone else out there aware that the UCEProtect Level 3 email blacklist
blocks entire AS?
Is there anyone out there aware of any significant (or larger than
'man and his dog on a DSL') mail prov
On May 8, 2009, at 9:31 AM, Claus v. Wolfhausen wrote:
Why do you believe people which are using Level 3 are not aware what
it is
doing?
I am guessing the emails from uninformed victims wondering why their
mail isn't getting through.
Vigilantes always start out with the right intentions
e [mailto:rapple at rapidlink.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2009 1:34 PM
To: nanog at nanog.org
Subject: UCEProtect Level 3
Is anyone else out there aware that the UCEProtect Level 3 email
blacklist blocks entire AS?
r
On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 3:10 PM, D'Arcy J.M. Cain wrote:
> It is. I understand what they are trying to do but we were cut off
> from some places because someone else in the huge upstream we are with
> did something that appeared to be spam. It's too broad of a brush.
It's not the tool or list it
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-Original Message-
From: Skywing [mailto:skyw...@valhallalegends.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2009 10:31 PM
To: Suresh Ramasubramanian; Raleigh Apple
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: RE: UCEProtect Level
On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 11:00 AM, Skywing wrote:
> I seem to recall that Mailstreet/MXlogic firewalls off (not rejects at SMTP
> level) any AS listed in UCEProtect, at least of about a year or so ago.
>
> - S
>
I would be very surprised indeed if MX Logic did something like that.
srs
: UCEProtect Level 3
On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 12:04 AM, Raleigh Apple wrote:
> Is anyone else out there aware that the UCEProtect Level 3 email blacklist
> blocks entire AS?
>
Is there anyone out there aware of any significant (or larger than
'man and his dog on a DSL')
On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 12:04 AM, Raleigh Apple wrote:
> Is anyone else out there aware that the UCEProtect Level 3 email blacklist
> blocks entire AS?
>
Is there anyone out there aware of any significant (or larger than
'man and his dog on a DSL') mail provider using UCEP
nanog@nanog.org
>Subject: Re: UCEProtect Level 3
>
>Raleigh Apple wrote:
>> Is anyone else out there aware that the UCEProtect Level 3 email
>> blacklist blocks entire AS?
>>
>
>
>http://lmgtfy.com/?q=uceprotect+level+3
On Thu, 7 May 2009 16:21:26 -0400
Rich Kulawiec wrote:
> (a) This discussion should probably be happening someplace other
> than NANOG (spam-l or mailop, perhaps?), and
True. I didn't bring it up but this is my last post on the subject.
> (b) If you feel that UCEProtect L3 paints with too broad
On May 7, 2009, at 4:10 PM, D'Arcy J.M. Cain wrote:
It is. I understand what they are trying to do but we were cut off
from some places because someone else in the huge upstream we are with
did something that appeared to be spam. It's too broad of a brush.
Indeed. That is the sort of vigilan
ssage -
From: "Raleigh Apple"
To: nanog@nanog.org
Sent: Thursday, May 7, 2009 2:34:01 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: UCEProtect Level 3
Is anyone else out there aware that the UCEProtect Level 3 email
blacklist blocks entire AS?
r
On Thu, 7 May 2009 13:43:14 -0500
"Aaron Wendel" wrote:
> Yes. Is that a problem?
It is. I understand what they are trying to do but we were cut off
from some places because someone else in the huge upstream we are with
did something that appeared to be spam. It's too broad of a brush.
--
D'
On 2009/05/07 08:34 PM Raleigh Apple wrote:
Is anyone else out there aware that the UCEProtect Level 3 email
blacklist blocks entire AS?
Yes. We don't use them anymore.
Raleigh Apple wrote:
> Is anyone else out there aware that the UCEProtect Level 3 email
> blacklist blocks entire AS?
>
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=uceprotect+level+3
Yes. Is that a problem?
-Original Message-
From: Raleigh Apple [mailto:rap...@rapidlink.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2009 1:34 PM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: UCEProtect Level 3
Is anyone else out there aware that the UCEProtect Level 3 email
blacklist blocks entire AS?
r
Is anyone else out there aware that the UCEProtect Level 3 email
blacklist blocks entire AS?
r
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