RE: Small full BGP table capable router with low power consumption

2017-12-22 Thread Adam Greene
: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Naslund, Steve Sent: Monday, December 4, 2017 5:04 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: RE: Small full BGP table capable router with low power consumption Watch the memory requirements on a full Internet table in the Cisco 2900 series. More current

Re: Small full BGP table capable router with low power consumption

2017-12-06 Thread Georg Kahest
gt; Cc: nanog@nanog.org > Subject: Re: Small full BGP table capable router with low power consumption > > I'm replacing an M10i with a CHR. > > I hope you have a newer RE so that you don't have worse BGP convergence than > a CCR. > > > >

Re: Small full BGP table capable router with low power consumption

2017-12-06 Thread Robert Bays
> On Dec 5, 2017, at 8:59 AM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: > > It is worth mentioning for those who have not seen a Ubiquiti "edgrouter" > in person yet, or worked with one, where their operating system came > from... When Vyatta was acquired by Brocade, the core Vyatta team jumped > ship and were hired

Re: Small full BGP table capable router with low power consumption

2017-12-05 Thread Colin Baker
On 2017-12-05 15:22, t...@wicks.co.nz wrote: Fixed format EX's range max out at 128k routes, definitely not an option there unless I am really missing something. I often use EX/QFX for l3, but no way they come anywhere near a full table. yep :) set routing-options maximum-prefixes biggernu

RE: Small full BGP table capable router with low power consumption

2017-12-05 Thread tony
What's the application? I'll throw a somewhat oddball option out there - you can fit full tables into RIB on many Juniper EX switches. Limited use cases for sure, but it can be handy if you can limit what's installed into FIB. Fixed format EX's range max out at 128k routes, definitely not an o

Re: Small full BGP table capable router with low power consumption

2017-12-05 Thread Mark Blackman
> On 4 Dec 2017, at 19:19, Adam Lawson wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I'm looking for suggestions on 1U-2U sized router with 1G interface > which can handle both IPv4 and IPv6 full BGP table and doesn't consume > too much power. > > > > The router needs to be squeezed in to a rack which doesn't

Re: Small full BGP table capable router with low power consumption

2017-12-05 Thread Colin Baker
On 2017-12-05 12:44, Adam Lawson wrote: Hi, Thanks for all the replies. I think the options that came up are: - Juniper MXs The reason I wrote M7i instead of the MX was I far as I looked on the Juniper site, it seems to use more power than the M7i (though you get more performance). RE-80

RE: Small full BGP table capable router with low power consumption

2017-12-05 Thread tony
capable router with low power consumption Have you played around with mx150 yet? It seems very appealing on paper, but as of its so new i have my doubts

RE: Small full BGP table capable router with low power consumption

2017-12-05 Thread tony
- Juniper MXs The reason I wrote M7i instead of the MX was I far as I looked on the Juniper site, it seems to use more power than the M7i (though you get more performance). The M150 has just been released, if its within the budget I wold suggest it will very nicely fit the requirement with its

Re: Small full BGP table capable router with low power consumption

2017-12-05 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 12/5/17 10:28 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: I understand that most BGP implementations are single-threaded. Well, yeah. That's where the "lots of slow cores" model doesn't work. ~Seth

Re: Small full BGP table capable router with low power consumption

2017-12-05 Thread Adam Lawson
Hi, Thanks for all the replies. I think the options that came up are: - Mikrotiks This fits my requirements pretty nicely, however as Mike pointed out the single threaded BGP is a bit of concern. Also, just that I'm not a very big fan of the /xxx Mikrotik CLI. - EdgeRouter Pros, Juniper M7i - A

Re: Small full BGP table capable router with low power consumption

2017-12-05 Thread Mike Hammett
Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest-IX http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: "mike lyon" To: "Mike Hammett" Cc: nanog@nanog.org Sent: Tuesday, December 5, 2017 12:35:48 PM Subject: Re: Small full BGP table capable router with l

RE: Small full BGP table capable router with low power consumption

2017-12-05 Thread tony
ilto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Wednesday, 6 December 2017 7:29 AM Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Small full BGP table capable router with low power consumption I'm replacing an M10i with a CHR. I hope you have a newer RE so that you don't have worse BG

Re: Small full BGP table capable router with low power consumption

2017-12-05 Thread mike . lyon
ike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > Midwest-IX > http://www.midwest-ix.com > > - Original Message - > > From: "mike lyon" > To: t...@wicks.co.nz > Cc: nanog@nanog.org > Sent: Tuesday, December 5, 201

Re: Small full BGP table capable router with low power consumption

2017-12-05 Thread Mike Hammett
mike lyon" To: t...@wicks.co.nz Cc: nanog@nanog.org Sent: Tuesday, December 5, 2017 12:11:27 PM Subject: Re: Small full BGP table capable router with low power consumption Unfortunately, yes. Thats why two Juniper M7is just arrived on my doorstep yesterday... > On Dec 5, 2017, at 1

Re: Small full BGP table capable router with low power consumption

2017-12-05 Thread Mike Hammett
- Original Message - From: "mike lyon" To: t...@wicks.co.nz Cc: nanog@nanog.org Sent: Tuesday, December 5, 2017 12:07:19 PM Subject: Re: Small full BGP table capable router with low power consumption Bad thing about the CCRs is that their BGP process is single threaded. So even thoug

Re: Small full BGP table capable router with low power consumption

2017-12-05 Thread mike . lyon
> -Original Message- > From: mike.l...@gmail.com [mailto:mike.l...@gmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, 6 December 2017 7:07 AM > To: t...@wicks.co.nz > Cc: nanog@nanog.org > Subject: Re: Small full BGP table capable router with low power consumption > > Bad thing about the C

RE: Small full BGP table capable router with low power consumption

2017-12-05 Thread tony
@nanog.org Subject: Re: Small full BGP table capable router with low power consumption Bad thing about the CCRs is that their BGP process is single threaded. So even though it has a bunch of cores, it doesn’t utilize them for BGP. -Mike

Re: Small full BGP table capable router with low power consumption

2017-12-05 Thread mike . lyon
.com/product/CCR1036-8G-2Splus > > > > -Original Message- > From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Eric Kuhnke > Sent: Wednesday, 6 December 2017 6:00 AM > To: nanog@nanog.org list > Subject: Re: Small full BGP table capable router with low power consumption >

RE: Small full BGP table capable router with low power consumption

2017-12-05 Thread tony
full BGP table capable router with low power consumption

Re: Small full BGP table capable router with low power consumption

2017-12-05 Thread Eric Kuhnke
It is worth mentioning for those who have not seen a Ubiquiti "edgrouter" in person yet, or worked with one, where their operating system came from... When Vyatta was acquired by Brocade, the core Vyatta team jumped ship and were hired directly by Ubiquiti. When you SSH into one of these whether i

Re: Small full BGP table capable router with low power consumption

2017-12-05 Thread Jerry Jones
. >>> -Original Message- >>> From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of William Herrin >>> Sent: Monday, December 04, 2017 3:43 PM >>> To: Adam Lawson >>> Cc: nanog >>> Subject: Re: Small full BGP table capable router with low power c

RE: Small full BGP table capable router with low power consumption

2017-12-04 Thread C. Jon Larsen
] On Behalf Of William Herrin Sent: Monday, December 04, 2017 3:43 PM To: Adam Lawson Cc: nanog Subject: Re: Small full BGP table capable router with low power consumption On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 2:19 PM, Adam Lawson wrote: The router needs to be squeezed in to a rack which doesn't have a l

Re: Small full BGP table capable router with low power consumption

2017-12-04 Thread Saku Ytti
Hey Adam, Review also: Nokia IXR-R6 (not IXR-6) Huawei NE20E-S2E On 4 December 2017 at 21:19, Adam Lawson wrote: > Hi, > > > > I'm looking for suggestions on 1U-2U sized router with 1G interface > > which can handle both IPv4 and IPv6 full BGP table and doesn't consume > > too much power. > >

RE: Small full BGP table capable router with low power consumption

2017-12-04 Thread Naslund, Steve
;>Cc: nanog >>Subject: Re: Small full BGP table capable router with low power consumption >>On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 2:19 PM, Adam Lawson wrote: >> The router needs to be squeezed in to a rack which doesn't have a lot >> of space nor power. As for space, maybe I can ma

Re: Small full BGP table capable router with low power consumption

2017-12-04 Thread William Herrin
On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 2:19 PM, Adam Lawson wrote: > The router needs to be squeezed in to a rack which doesn't > have a lot of space nor power. As for space, maybe I can make > space for 3U or 4U but as for power, I can only do around > 1.5A@100V on average. (There is room for burst power usage.)

Re: Small full BGP table capable router with low power consumption

2017-12-04 Thread Mel Beckman
The Edgerouter Pro 8 meets all your specs. It's 1U, has eight GigE ports, including two SFP/combo ports, can take full IPv4 and IPv6 tables, and only consumes 40 watts (about half an amp at 120V). About $300. https://www.ubnt.com/edgemax/edgerouter-pro/ -mel beckman > On Dec 4, 2017, at 12:46

Small full BGP table capable router with low power consumption

2017-12-04 Thread Adam Lawson
Hi, I'm looking for suggestions on 1U-2U sized router with 1G interface which can handle both IPv4 and IPv6 full BGP table and doesn't consume too much power. The router needs to be squeezed in to a rack which doesn't have a lot of space nor power. As for space, maybe I can make spac