Re: Replacement for Avaya CNA/RouteScience

2008-07-05 Thread Tom Sands
Ross Vandegrift wrote: On Thu, Jul 03, 2008 at 10:36:27PM -0400, Christian Koch wrote: i definitely see value in appliances like the fcp and route science box, i just think for a smaller provider it may not be necessary - or maybe i have it backwards,and it is a better solution for a smaller pr

Re: Replacement for Avaya CNA/RouteScience

2008-07-05 Thread Rubens Kuhl Jr.
If you already own Cisco gear, Cisco OER (which now has another marketing name) might do the trick without buying any appliances, as it runs on top of IOS. Rubens On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 8:50 AM, Drew Weaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Howdy for reasons it might be inappropriate to dis

Re: Replacement for Avaya CNA/RouteScience

2008-07-04 Thread Ross Vandegrift
On Thu, Jul 03, 2008 at 10:36:27PM -0400, Christian Koch wrote: > i definitely see value in appliances like the fcp and route science box, i > just think for a smaller provider it may not be necessary - or maybe i have > it backwards,and it is a better solution for a smaller provider so they > don'

Re: Replacement for Avaya CNA/RouteScience

2008-07-03 Thread Christian Koch
gt; >From: Christian Koch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 2:39 PM > >To: Robert E. Seastrom > >Cc: Eric Van Tol; nanog@nanog.org > >Subject: Re: Replacement for Avaya CNA/RouteScience > > > >agreed. i see the most benefit from th

RE: Replacement for Avaya CNA/RouteScience

2008-07-03 Thread Eric Van Tol
>From: Christian Koch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 2:39 PM >To: Robert E. Seastrom >Cc: Eric Van Tol; nanog@nanog.org >Subject: Re: Replacement for Avaya CNA/RouteScience > >agreed. i see the most benefit from these boxes geared towards networks

Re: Replacement for Avaya CNA/RouteScience

2008-07-03 Thread Christian Koch
agreed. i see the most benefit from these boxes geared towards networks with critical apps that are latency intensive and more than a handful of transit providers than i do for a smaller provider.. depending on how many upstreams you're juggling, its not that hard to create some traffic engineerin

Re: Replacement for Avaya CNA/RouteScience

2008-07-03 Thread Robert E. Seastrom
Eric Van Tol <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I'd like to hire that engineer, please. Can you send me his resume? > Here's the job description: > > - Required to works 24x7x365. > - Must monitor all network egress points to examine latency, > retransmissions, packet loss, link utilization, and l

RE: Replacement for Avaya CNA/RouteScience

2008-07-03 Thread Eric Van Tol
> -Original Message- > From: Paul Wall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 11:25 AM > To: Drew Weaver > Cc: nanog@nanog.org > Subject: Re: Replacement for Avaya CNA/RouteScience > > Going off this and previous posts, you'd well-serv

RE: Replacement for Avaya CNA/RouteScience

2008-07-03 Thread Koch, Christian
what does vyatta have to do with route intelligence/optimization? vyatta is just a router.. -c -Original Message- From: Michienne Dixon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu 07/03/08 10:36 AM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: RE: Replacement for Avaya CNA/RouteScience Have you considered

Re: Replacement for Avaya CNA/RouteScience

2008-07-03 Thread Paul Wall
On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 7:50 AM, Drew Weaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Howdy for reasons it might be inappropriate to discuss on this list > we've decided that we're going to replace our Avaya/RouteScience box and > we're looking for recommendations on different solutions for 'BGP manage

RE: Replacement for Avaya CNA/RouteScience

2008-07-03 Thread Michienne Dixon
MO 64116 www.linkcity.org (816) 412-7990 -Original Message- From: Drew Weaver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 6:51 AM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Replacement for Avaya CNA/RouteScience Howdy for reasons it might be inappropriate to discuss on this list we'

Replacement for Avaya CNA/RouteScience

2008-07-03 Thread Drew Weaver
Howdy for reasons it might be inappropriate to discuss on this list we've decided that we're going to replace our Avaya/RouteScience box and we're looking for recommendations on different solutions for 'BGP management appliances'. We're aware of the Internap FCP product, but is