Re: Lots of prepends - AS20912 case

2009-02-20 Thread Andree Toonk
Hi, .-- My secret spy satellite informs me that at Fri, 20 Feb 2009, Giuliano Peritore wrote: > I think that the case of AS47868 is the same, because I seed the > modulo was involved too. For those interested, I made an overview of longest AS paths observed per day, starting with Febru

Re: Lots of prepends - AS20912 case

2009-02-20 Thread Dorn Hetzel
--Original Message- > > From: Mikael Abrahamsson [mailto:swm...@swm.pp.se] > > Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 3:06 PM > > To: nanog@nanog.org > > Subject: Re: Lots of prepends - AS20912 case > > > > On Fri, 20 Feb 2009, Dorn Hetzel wrote: > > >

RE: Lots of prepends - AS20912 case

2009-02-20 Thread Ivan Pepelnjak
pletely different story; it's used to do proxy prepending for your customers. Ivan Pepelnjak http://blog.ioshints.info > -Original Message- > From: Mikael Abrahamsson [mailto:swm...@swm.pp.se] > Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 3:06 PM > To: nanog@nanog.org > Subject:

Re: Lots of prepends - AS20912 case

2009-02-20 Thread Dorn Hetzel
It's just a personal opinion, but I would think that if someone is going to make the rest of the net suffer the ugliness of a n n n n n n n n n n n n prepend, then it's not unreasonable they should have to look at the ugliness in their config file as

Re: Lots of prepends - AS20912 case

2009-02-20 Thread Mathias Sundman
On Fri, 20 Feb 2009, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: On Fri, 20 Feb 2009, Dorn Hetzel wrote: Replacing what is conventially thought to be a string with an integer multiplier seems a massive violation of the principle of least astonishment. 3. Prepend number of times entered modulo 256, is just br

Re: Lots of prepends - AS20912 case

2009-02-20 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Fri, 20 Feb 2009, Dorn Hetzel wrote: Replacing what is conventially thought to be a string with an integer multiplier seems a massive violation of the principle of least astonishment. On a Cisco running 12.0S: route-map test1 set as-path prepend last-as ? <1-10> number of last-AS prepen

Re: Lots of prepends - AS20912 case

2009-02-20 Thread Dorn Hetzel
Replacing what is conventially thought to be a string with an integer multiplier seems a massive violation of the principle of least astonishment. On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 8:00 AM, Jon Lewis wrote: > On Fri, 20 Feb 2009, Giuliano Peritore wrote: > >The problem is that differently to Cisco

Re: Lots of prepends - AS20912 case

2009-02-20 Thread Jon Lewis
On Fri, 20 Feb 2009, Giuliano Peritore wrote: The problem is that differently to Cisco the syntax of the prepend field on thius system is not a string (eg. "20912 20912 20912") but an integer, that the user interface _should_ limit to the interval 0-16. ... The producer has been

Re: Lots of prepends - AS20912 case

2009-02-20 Thread Tomas Caslavsky
Hi all, I can only cofnirm that AS47868 is using also Mikrotik as their border BGP router Tomas Giuliano Peritore wrote: The long (176) AS20912 prepend incident was due to a misconfiguration of a BGP router we were testing. The problem is that differently to Cisco the sy

Re: lots of prepends

2009-02-19 Thread Randy Bush
> The only ill effect is if set it too low we tested it a bit > at 20-30 AS path length range figuring we shouldn't see *much* > and it was staggering over time. The unfortunate thing more > related to your question is that we found some AS's that were > prepending 40-50 times to ALL their ups

Re: lots of prepends

2009-02-19 Thread Tomas Caslavsky
max-as set too low we had no routing to them at all! We've had it set to 100 for quite a while now and no side effects Paul -Original Message- From: Seth Mattinen [mailto:se...@rollernet.us] Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 4:50 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: lots of

RE: lots of prepends

2009-02-19 Thread Paul Stewart
upstreams so with max-as set too low we had no routing to them at all! We've had it set to 100 for quite a while now and no side effects Paul -Original Message- From: Seth Mattinen [mailto:se...@rollernet.us] Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 4:50 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subje

Re: lots of prepends

2009-02-19 Thread Seth Mattinen
Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: > > Today 85.119.176.0/21 was announced by AS20912 with 177 prepends. I > noticed 20912 modulo 256 is 176. AS47868 modulo 256 is 252 which matches > this mondays prepend-incident. > > So, what router OS will put 20912 into a byte and thus end up with 176 > in something l

RE: lots of prepends

2009-02-19 Thread Paul Stewart
Just seen that here too: Feb 19 16:20:35: %BGP-6-ASPATH: Long AS path 8001 8928 20912 20912 20912 20912 20912 20912 20912 20912 20912 20912 20912 20912 20912 20912 20912 20912 20912 20912 20912 20912 20912 20912 20912 20912 20912 20912 20912 20912 20912 20912 20912 20912 20912 20912 20912 20912 20