Re: leap second outage

2015-07-01 Thread Harlan Stenn
Jimmy Hess writes: > On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 12:38 AM, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: > > quickly. Either we should abolish the leap second or we should make leap > > second adjustments (back and forth) on a monthly basis to exercise the code > . > > See maybe there should some day be building cod

Re: leap second outage

2015-07-01 Thread Tim Raphael
conf. If >> it's leep second related. >> >> --Original Message-- >> From: Stefan >> Sender: NANOG >> To: frnk...@iname.com >> Cc: nanog@nanog.org >> Subject: Re: leap second outage >> Sent: Jun 30, 2015 23:30 >> >> This

RE: leap second outage

2015-07-01 Thread frnkblk
And just 12.5% of them required TLC. =) -Original Message- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of frnk...@iname.com Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 7:05 AM To: 'Stefan' Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: RE: leap second outage Yes, happened at 7 pm Central

Re: leap second outage

2015-07-01 Thread Justin Paine via NANOG
the > extra second. I know a large carrier in Israel is down. Waiting for conf. If > it's leep second related. > > --Original Message-- > From: Stefan > Sender: NANOG > To: frnk...@iname.com > Cc: nanog@nanog.org > Subject: Re: leap second outage > Se

Re: leap second outage

2015-07-01 Thread Jimmy Hess
On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 12:38 AM, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: > quickly. Either we should abolish the leap second or we should make leap > second adjustments (back and forth) on a monthly basis to exercise the code. See maybe there should some day be building codes for commercially marketed sof

RE: leap second outage

2015-07-01 Thread frnkblk
Yes, happened at 7 pm Central (0:oo UTC). From: Stefan [mailto:netfort...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 10:30 PM To: frnk...@iname.com Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: leap second outage This was supposed to have happened @midnight UTC, right? Meaning that we are past that

Re: leap second outage

2015-07-01 Thread Johnny Eriksson
Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: > This is similar to the jiffycounter wrapping, since this doesn't happen > that often, it's not commonly tested for. Good way is to start the jiffy > counter so it wraps after 10 minutes of uptime. That way you'll run into > any bugs quickly. Either we should abolish

Re: leap second outage

2015-06-30 Thread Colin Johnston
oracle linux did this Jul 1 02:01:29 oraclelinux ntpd[600]: 0.0.0.0 061c 0c clock_step -1.006445 s Jul 1 02:01:29 oraclelinux ntpd[600]: 0.0.0.0 0615 05 clock_sync Jul 1 02:01:29 oraclelinux systemd: Time has been changed Jul 1 02:01:30 oraclelinux ntpd[600]: 0.0.0.0 c618 08 no_sys_peer all see

Re: leap second outage

2015-06-30 Thread Harlan Stenn
Mikael Abrahamsson writes: > This is similar to the jiffycounter wrapping, since this doesn't happen > that often, it's not commonly tested for. Good way is to start the jiffy > counter so it wraps after 10 minutes of uptime. That way you'll run into > any bugs quickly. Either we should abolish

Re: leap second outage

2015-06-30 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Wed, 1 Jul 2015, Jean-Francois Mezei wrote: However, in systems that expect tightly synchronized clocks, they would want all the nodes to make the NTP adjustement at the same time. This is both an operating system and application problem. http://infiniteundo.com/post/25326999628/falsehoods

Re: leap second outage

2015-06-30 Thread Jean-Francois Mezei
On 15-07-01 00:47, Harlan Stenn wrote: > What I'm about to say may not be as stupid as it sounds: The problems > here aren't problems for cases where it's not a problem. It is a > problem where it *is* a problem. In fairness, systems should be used to NTP making adjustments to the system clock

Re: leap second outage

2015-06-30 Thread Harlan Stenn
Joe writes: > A leap sec causing issues. For about 40 years now, there have been > these leap seconds to no real issue. All of these are "go-forwards" No, they're all "go-backwards" events. That's no big deal to things that don't care about monotonic time, or to folks who aren't in violation of s

Re: leap second outage

2015-06-30 Thread Joe
A leap sec causing issues. For about 40 years now, there have been these leap seconds to no real issue. All of these are "go-forwards" and even MS AD (I believe) treat them as a little bump (nothing to see here move along). So unless you have really a tight VPN (non-standard conforming) I'd hope th

Re: leap second outage

2015-06-30 Thread Nicholas Suan
Correct, the leap second gets inserted at midnight UTC. "Leap seconds can be introduced in UTC at the end of the months of December or June, depending on the evolution of UT1-TAI. Bulletin C is mailed every six months, either to announce a time step in UTC or to confirm that there will be no t

Re: leap second outage

2015-06-30 Thread Dovid Bender
No. Some one leaked some routes: https://mobile.twitter.com/Axcelx/status/616058414746202113 Regards, Dovid -Original Message- From: Justin Paine Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2015 20:37:06 To: Cc: Stefan; NANOG; ; Subject: Re: leap second outage Any confirmation if the AWS outage was leap

Re: leap second outage

2015-06-30 Thread Josh Luthman
That is my understanding as well. The event was about 3.5 hours ago. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 11:30 PM, Stefan wrote: > This was supposed to have happened @midnight UTC, right? Meaning that we > are

Re: leap second outage

2015-06-30 Thread Dovid Bender
I read that and that at midnight local time since that's when you have the extra second. I know a large carrier in Israel is down. Waiting for conf. If it's leep second related. --Original Message-- From: Stefan Sender: NANOG To: frnk...@iname.com Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject

Re: leap second outage

2015-06-30 Thread Stefan
This was supposed to have happened @midnight UTC, right? Meaning that we are past that event. Under which scenarios should people be concerned about midnight local time? Lots of confusing messages flying all over... On Jun 30, 2015 10:13 PM, wrote: > We experienced our first leap second outage --