Re: huawei (ZTE too)

2013-06-14 Thread Randy Bush
> Last I heard NANOG stands for North American Network Operators Group. > Anti-American comments are not welcome here.. LOL

Re: huawei (ZTE too)

2013-06-14 Thread <<"tei''>>>
I am only a lurker in this list. I am curious why nobody has mentioned open source. Theres no way all these router-thingies would have all his source code visible? a house made of glass? -- -- ℱin del ℳensaje.

Re: huawei (ZTE too)

2013-06-13 Thread Keith Medcalf
There is more than just y'all's in North America  .  --- Sent from Samsung Mobile  Original message From: Jeroen Massar Date: To: david peahi Cc: NANOG list Subject: Re: huawei (ZTE too)

Re: huawei (ZTE too)

2013-06-13 Thread Bill Woodcock
On Jun 13, 2013, at 3:01 PM, "Scott Weeks" wrote: > On 2013-06-13 14:28, david peahi wrote: >> >> Last I heard NANOG stands for North American Network Operators Group. >> Anti-American comments are not welcome here.. > Smiley? Smiley? I'm looking for the :-) but I don't > see one. How about "

Re: huawei (ZTE too)

2013-06-13 Thread Leslie
On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 2:28 PM, david peahi wrote: > Last I heard NANOG stands for North American Network Operators Group. > Anti-American comments are not welcome here.. > > As a matter of fact, North America includes 23 unique countries, not just the United States - http://en.wikipedia.org/wik

Re: huawei (ZTE too)

2013-06-13 Thread Scott Weeks
On 2013-06-13 14:28, david peahi wrote: > > Last I heard NANOG stands for North American Network Operators Group. > Anti-American comments are not welcome here.. - Smiley? Smiley? I'm looking for the :-) but I don't see one. How about "crazy eyes"?

Re: huawei (ZTE too)

2013-06-13 Thread Jeroen Massar
On 2013-06-13 14:28, david peahi wrote: > > Last I heard NANOG stands for North American Network Operators Group. > Anti-American comments are not welcome here.. (IMHO there was nothing 'anti-american' about my statement, though I guess it completely depends on what the definition of that would b

Re: huawei (ZTE too)

2013-06-13 Thread david peahi
Last I heard NANOG stands for North American Network Operators Group. Anti-American comments are not welcome here.. David On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 1:36 PM, Jeroen Massar wrote: > On 2013-06-13 13:01, david peahi wrote: > > Apologies for making what could be construed as an off topic, political

Re: huawei (ZTE too)

2013-06-13 Thread Jeroen Massar
On 2013-06-13 13:01, david peahi wrote: > Apologies for making what could be construed as an off topic, political > comment, but doesn't everyone in the USA know by now that the PRC > represents a dagger aimed at the economic and national security of America? > A military invasion in slow motion as

Re: huawei (ZTE too)

2013-06-13 Thread david peahi
Apologies for making what could be construed as an off topic, political comment, but doesn't everyone in the USA know by now that the PRC represents a dagger aimed at the economic and national security of America? A military invasion in slow motion as it were? David On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 12:28

Re: huawei (ZTE too)

2013-06-13 Thread Bryan Fields
On 6/13/13 3:41 PM, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: >> > My objection to ZTE/Hauwei when I was at a cellular telco was just this. >> > I said "there was no way I can agree with Chinese nationals having >> > unfettered access to our network". > Why would anyone outside of the US agree to have US produc

Re: huawei (ZTE too)

2013-06-13 Thread Warren Bailey
Is that also not possibly the case with Cisco, Juniper, XYZ network equipment vendors? If the Chinese are doing it, I would imagine we (along with our pals) are doing it as well. It'll be interesting to see what NSA dox this guy drops in the coming days and weeks ahead. All of the TV pundits were s

Re: huawei (ZTE too)

2013-06-13 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Thu, 13 Jun 2013, Bryan Fields wrote: My objection to ZTE/Hauwei when I was at a cellular telco was just this. I said "there was no way I can agree with Chinese nationals having unfettered access to our network". Why would anyone outside of the US agree to have US products in their networ

Re: huawei (ZTE too)

2013-06-13 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 3:28 PM, Bryan Fields wrote: > They are playing our love of "But Wait There's More!". Give us everything at > deep discounts or for free and receive direct access to the core of every > major telecom company on the planet. For a few hundred million dollars the > Chinese go

Re: huawei (ZTE too)

2013-06-13 Thread Bryan Fields
On 6/13/13 1:35 PM, Warren Bailey wrote: > They are a state controlled company. You think the PRC's party members dont > call the shots? I've been to Beijing for work.. I can assure you the > government has a very known presence through the private community. Often > times, graduates of their state