Re: gmail dropping mesages

2011-04-27 Thread Jeff Mitchell
On 04/26/2011 09:16 PM, Michael Thomas wrote: On 04/26/2011 05:08 PM, J.D. Falk wrote: On Apr 25, 2011, at 10:12 AM, Jeff Mitchell wrote: If you trust the issued certificates(!) being used to sign the mail, you at least have a good indication that the spam is coming from the domain that it

Re: gmail dropping mesages

2011-04-26 Thread Michael Thomas
On 04/26/2011 05:08 PM, J.D. Falk wrote: On Apr 25, 2011, at 10:12 AM, Jeff Mitchell wrote: If you trust the issued certificates(!) being used to sign the mail, you at least have a good indication that the spam is coming from the domain that it says it's coming from. This can make spam bl

Re: gmail dropping mesages

2011-04-26 Thread J.D. Falk
On Apr 25, 2011, at 10:12 AM, Jeff Mitchell wrote: > If you trust the issued certificates(!) being used to sign the mail, you at > least have a good indication that the spam is coming from the domain that it > says it's coming from. This can make spam blocking much more effective > because inst

Re: gmail dropping mesages

2011-04-25 Thread Dave CROCKER
On 4/22/2011 4:24 PM, Lynda wrote: Nearly all of the spam I see is DKIM signed. It just makes messages bigger. I'd just as soon our volunteers spend their times on other things, myself. In the off-chance you are assuming that the presence of a DKIM signature is supposed to mean something abo

Re: gmail dropping mesages

2011-04-25 Thread Jeff Mitchell
On 04/22/2011 07:24 PM, Lynda wrote: Non existent, it's SPF only. My point. Nearly all of the spam I see is DKIM signed. It just makes messages bigger. I'd just as soon our volunteers spend their times on other things, myself. DKIM isn't designed explicitly to stop spam, it's designed to id

Re: gmail dropping mesages

2011-04-23 Thread Franck Martin
On 4/23/11 11:24 , "Lynda" wrote: >On 4/22/2011 4:01 PM, Franck Martin wrote: >> >> On 4/23/11 10:41 , "Alex Brooks" wrote: >> >>> On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 9:44 PM, Franck Martin >>> wrote: What is the DKIM check result for those messages? >>> >>> Non existent, it's SPF only. >> >> My poin

Re: gmail dropping mesages

2011-04-22 Thread William Allen Simpson
On 4/21/11 9:24 PM, Bill Blackford wrote: I've recently observed gmail dropping messages or not forwarding all messages/posts from the nanog list. This is rather annoying. Has anyone else experienced this? Does anyone have any insight as to why? I've read the thread, and ironically all messag

Re: gmail dropping mesages

2011-04-22 Thread Lynda
On 4/22/2011 4:01 PM, Franck Martin wrote: On 4/23/11 10:41 , "Alex Brooks" wrote: On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 9:44 PM, Franck Martin wrote: What is the DKIM check result for those messages? Non existent, it's SPF only. My point. Nearly all of the spam I see is DKIM signed. It just makes m

Re: gmail dropping mesages

2011-04-22 Thread Franck Martin
On 4/23/11 10:41 , "Alex Brooks" wrote: >On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 9:44 PM, Franck Martin >wrote: >> What is the DKIM check result for those messages? > >Non existent, it's SPF only. My point. > >This is what GMail sees: > >Received: from s0.nanog.org (s0.nanog.org [207.75.116.162]) >by

Re: gmail dropping mesages

2011-04-22 Thread Alex Brooks
On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 9:44 PM, Franck Martin wrote: > What is the DKIM check result for those messages? Non existent, it's SPF only. This is what GMail sees: Received: from s0.nanog.org (s0.nanog.org [207.75.116.162]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id h1si7255610ibn.43.2011.04.22.13.42.

Re: gmail dropping mesages

2011-04-22 Thread Franck Martin
What is the DKIM check result for those messages? May be time to get nanog mailing list DKIM aware? On 4/22/11 13:24 , "Bill Blackford" wrote: >I've recently observed gmail dropping messages or not forwarding all >messages/posts from the nanog list. This is rather annoying. > >Has anyone else

Re: gmail dropping mesages

2011-04-21 Thread Bill Blackford
ok, there are some in the spam folder. Hmm, didn't think to look there for the missing ones when my inbox appears to be receivng partial threads. Thanks, -b On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 6:31 PM, Christopher Morrow wrote: > On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 9:24 PM, Bill Blackford wrote: >> I've recently obse

Re: gmail dropping mesages

2011-04-21 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 9:24 PM, Bill Blackford wrote: > I've recently observed gmail dropping messages or not forwarding all > messages/posts  from the nanog list. This is rather annoying. > > Has anyone else experienced this? Does anyone have any insight as to why? sometimes nanog mail gets mar