Re: ftc shuts down a colo and ip provider

2009-06-23 Thread Peter Dambier
Don't mention Spamhaus (versus nic.at) Maybe that is the reason why they introduced censoring the day before yesterday here in germany. Just got a nice stop sign when I looked up spamhaus saying the site is inapropriate for my computer. Don't believe it - it's just been a bad dream. I fully ag

Re: ftc shuts down a colo and ip provider

2009-06-22 Thread Jo Rhett
On Jun 4, 2009, at 9:38 PM, Randy Bush wrote: http://voices.washingtonpost.com/securityfix/2009/06/ftc_sues_shuts_down_n_calif_we.html while allegedly a black hat, this is the first case i know of in which the usg has shut down an isp. nose of camel? first they came for ... It's good to see

Re: ftc shuts down a colo and ip provider

2009-06-05 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 8:04 AM, Gadi Evron wrote: > Christopher Morrow wrote: >> >> On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 1:44 AM, Deepak Jain wrote: >>> >>> What does it say about these providers AUP that the FTC needed to go to >>> court to turn them off? >> >> I hate to re-start the atrivo/intercage/mccolo th

Re: ftc shuts down a colo and ip provider

2009-06-05 Thread Gadi Evron
Christopher Morrow wrote: On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 1:44 AM, Deepak Jain wrote: What does it say about these providers AUP that the FTC needed to go to court to turn them off? I hate to re-start the atrivo/intercage/mccolo thread(s) but, often what happens is there just arent any real/usable com

Re: ftc shuts down a colo and ip provider

2009-06-05 Thread Wayne E. Bouchard
On Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 01:44:53AM -0400, Deepak Jain wrote: > What does it say about these providers AUP that the FTC needed to go to court > to turn them off? > > The AUP standard is usually written much, much lower. > > Deepak It says revenue trumps ethics in far too many instances. Virtua

Re: ftc shuts down a colo and ip provider

2009-06-04 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 1:44 AM, Deepak Jain wrote: > What does it say about these providers AUP that the FTC needed to go to court > to turn them off? I hate to re-start the atrivo/intercage/mccolo thread(s) but, often what happens is there just arent any real/usable complaints sent along to the

Re: ftc shuts down a colo and ip provider

2009-06-04 Thread Deepak Jain
What does it say about these providers AUP that the FTC needed to go to court to turn them off? The AUP standard is usually written much, much lower. Deepak Deepak - Original Message - From: Randy Bush To: North American Network Operators Group Sent: Fri Jun 05 00:38:04 2009 Subje

Re: ftc shuts down a colo and ip provider

2009-06-04 Thread Michael Painter
- Original Message - From: "Randy Bush" To: "North American Network Operators Group" Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 6:38 PM Subject: ftc shuts down a colo and ip provider http://voices.washingtonpost.com/securityfix/2009/06/ftc_sues_shuts_down_n_calif_we.html while allegedly a black

Re: ftc shuts down a colo and ip provider

2009-06-04 Thread Andrew D Kirch
Randy Bush wrote: > http://voices.washingtonpost.com/securityfix/2009/06/ftc_sues_shuts_down_n_calif_we.html > > while allegedly a black hat, this is the first case i know of in which > the usg has shut down an isp. nose of camel? first they came for ... > > randy > > Foonet.

Re: ftc shuts down a colo and ip provider

2009-06-04 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 12:45 AM, Andrew D Kirch wrote: > Randy Bush wrote: >> http://voices.washingtonpost.com/securityfix/2009/06/ftc_sues_shuts_down_n_calif_we.html >> >> while allegedly a black hat, this is the first case i know of in which >> the usg has shut down an isp.  nose of camel?  first