On Mar 19, 2013, at 3:07 PM, Eugen Leitl wrote:
> Or you could use a shipping container, or just bring in the parts in hand
> luggage, and assemble on site.
Folks, this topic is far, far off-topic for this list.
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Roland Dob
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 06:31:03PM -0500, Jimmy Hess wrote:
> On 3/18/13, Jay Ashworth wrote:
> [snip]
> > In the next 3 years, it will become possible to build an autonomously
> > navigating aircraft that can a) cross the Atlantic and b) carry a
> > nuclear weapon.
>
> Not only is it already pos
In history, people get taken unawares, by their neighbours.
We don't implement systems to protect against that - no matter how
much betrayal stares us in the face. The price of peace is eternal
diligence and no-one writes that cheque.
>From Troy to Chamberlain - it's not an issue of finding new reg
- Original Message -
> From: "Jimmy Hess"
> On 3/18/13, Jay Ashworth wrote:
> [snip]
> > In the next 3 years, it will become possible to build an
> > autonomously
> > navigating aircraft that can a) cross the Atlantic and b) carry a
> > nuclear weapon.
>
> Not only is it already possibl
On 3/18/13, Jay Ashworth wrote:
[snip]
> In the next 3 years, it will become possible to build an autonomously
> navigating aircraft that can a) cross the Atlantic and b) carry a
> nuclear weapon.
Not only is it already possible to build a human manually navigated aircraft
that can do both (a), a
- Original Message -
> From: "."
> This is a problem for the future to solve. Not us.
Seriously?
> In bioweapons, I think we are still on the "happy hackers era", where
> people in a biochemical laboratory in Liverpool have access to some
> fungus that can wipe half the city, but don't
The US law enforcement is getting closer and closer at being able to
be DDoS-ed very effectively because of all of their advisories about
"see something, say something" and all other scare tactics crap they
come up with.
I mean it's bad some guy shot up a lot of people in a theater or in a
school,
> And there you have it :)
>
> Security obviously works thus far, in the sense, that so far,
> government has been preserved -- there is not total chaos, in at least
> most of the world, and people do not doubt if their life or property
> will still exist the next day.
>
I'm not sure I would
On 2013-03-15 06:44, Owen DeLong wrote:
> Actually, it was "be conservative in what you send, liberal in what you
> accept."
Maybe you're thinking of another time/place, I was referring to:
http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc761
On Mar 15, 2013, at 5:16 AM, Patrick wrote:
> On 2013-03-15 12:33, . wrote:
>> Similary, maybe you need exploitability to have a internet.
>
> Exploitability = usability from a different perspective.
>
> Postel said "be conservative in what you do, be liberal in what you
> accept", which seem
On Fri, 15 Mar 2013 11:02:29 +0100, you said:
> The DIYbio community is perfectly harmless so far. The feds are
> already breathing down their necks, so there's no really no point
> in adding gratuitious gasoline to the fire.
"The Feds" have jurisdiction in Yemen, North Korea, Iran, and other pla
On 3/14/13, Jay Ashworth wrote:
> http://www.wired.com/opinion/2013/03/security-when-the-bad-guys-have-technology-too-how-do-we-survive/
So what I gather from that:
"Calling terrorism an existential threat is ridiculous in a country
where more people die each month in car crashes than died in the
On 2013-03-15 12:33, . wrote:
> Similary, maybe you need exploitability to have a internet.
Exploitability = usability from a different perspective.
Postel said "be conservative in what you do, be liberal in what you
accept", which seems like usability restated, and would QED this.
Granted, we
On 14 March 2013 18:56, Jay Ashworth wrote:
> http://www.wired.com/opinion/2013/03/security-when-the-bad-guys-have-technology-too-how-do-we-survive/
>
> Three words: "desktop gene sequencing", "ebola", "script kiddies".
>
> I dunno how to fix it either.
>
> Cheers,
> -- jra
This is a problem for
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 08:39:20PM -0400, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote:
> Having said that, we probably *will* see a number of incidents where the
> biohazard cleanup crews have to clean up a local mess...
The DIYbio community is perfectly harmless so far. The feds are
already breathing down the
There's nothing much new in the article other than that the usual headline
grabbing soundbite and tortured big bang analogy
--srs (htc one x)
On 15-Mar-2013 6:04 AM, "Darius Jahandarie" wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 1:56 PM, Jay Ashworth wrote:
> >
> http://www.wired.com/opinion/2013/03/secu
On 2013-03-14 13:56, Jay Ashworth wrote:
> http://www.wired.com/opinion/2013/03/security-when-the-bad-guys-have-technology-too-how-do-we-survive/
>
> Three words: "desktop gene sequencing", "ebola", "script kiddies".
When the costs of offense fall, a pretty good response is to drive the
costs of d
Original Message -
> From: "Owen DeLong"
> Not really anything all that new from a conceptual perspective:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hZo5k0V9M0
Maybe, but bio is a bigger spread hazard than nuke, and harder to test
for -- which is probably why, by policy, DOD/NCA treats it as
Not really anything all that new from a conceptual perspective:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hZo5k0V9M0
Owen
On Mar 14, 2013, at 5:39 PM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 19:56:51 -0400, Miles Fidelman said:
>
>> I think that's six words - twice as scary. I dunno how to
On Thu, 14 Mar 2013 19:56:51 -0400, Miles Fidelman said:
> I think that's six words - twice as scary. I dunno how to fix it either
> ("when in trouble, when in doubt, run in circles, scream and shout?")
I don't think script kiddies with gene sequencers will manage to kill us
with Ebola, for the
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 1:56 PM, Jay Ashworth wrote:
> http://www.wired.com/opinion/2013/03/security-when-the-bad-guys-have-technology-too-how-do-we-survive/
Although I don't disagree with Bruce, this sort of "scare article"
doesn't seem to be very in character for him.
--
Darius Jahandarie
Jay Ashworth wrote:
http://www.wired.com/opinion/2013/03/security-when-the-bad-guys-have-technology-too-how-do-we-survive/
Three words: "desktop gene sequencing", "ebola", "script kiddies".
I dunno how to fix it either.
I think that's six words - twice as scary. I dunno how to fix it either
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