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Ralph Brandt
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From: Luke S. Crawford [mailto:l...@prgmr.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2012 3:26 PM
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Subject: Re: VoIP vs POTS (was Re: Operation Ghost Click)
On Thu, May 03, 2012 at 10:59:47AM -0400, Brandt, Ralph wrote:
> One o
On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 12:25 PM, Luke S. Crawford wrote:
> On Thu, May 03, 2012 at 10:59:47AM -0400, Brandt, Ralph wrote:
>> One of the first things cellular companies can do is stop overselling
>> cellular. The second is end or raise the price significantly on
>> unlimited plans, both voice and
On Thu, May 03, 2012 at 10:59:47AM -0400, Brandt, Ralph wrote:
> One of the first things cellular companies can do is stop overselling
> cellular. The second is end or raise the price significantly on
> unlimited plans, both voice and data. Go to what the landlines called,
> USS, that is you pay
On May 3, 2012, at 14:37, Brandt, Ralph wrote:
> Sean, do you know anyone who has successfully used either to place a
> call?
Not to my knowledge. Due to some family in government I'm sure I know someone
who's authorized for one or the other, but I can't say the topic's ever come
up. I'm ju
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> Cc: NANOG list
> Subject: Re: VoIP vs POTS (was Re: Operation Ghost Click)
>
> That's precisely where SatCom enters the picture. Cell companies
> aren't ever going to undersell their bandwidth...that simply isn't
> profitable. SatCom
On May 3, 2012, at 14:19, Jay Ashworth wrote:
> {citation-needed}
I don't have any numbers to offer, but given the near universality of cellular
phones these days among the adult population I could easily see a majority
going for cellular. Car accidents, house fires, and a lot of other types o
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From: Sean Harlow [mailto:s...@seanharlow.info]
Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2012 12:36 PM
To: Mike Hale
Cc: NANOG list
Subject: Re: VoIP vs POTS (was Re: Operation Ghost Click)
On May 3, 2012, at 12:26, Mike Hale wrote
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From: Mike Hale [mailto:eyeronic.des...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2012 12:32 PM
To: Brandt, Ralph
Cc: NANOG list
Subject: Re: VoIP vs POTS (was Re: Operation Ghost Click)
That's precisely where SatCom enters the picture. Cell companies
aren't ever going to
ked at the
other two as snake oil salesmen
I was the only one who asked any questions.
Ralph Brandt
York PA 17055
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From: Mike Hale [mailto:eyeronic.des...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2012 12:26 PM
To: Tei
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> From: "Ralph Brandt"
> The problem with this is, MOST 911 CALLS ARE CELLULAR or soon will be.
{citation-needed}
Cheers,
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Jay R. Ashworth Baylink j...@baylink.com
Designer The Things I Think
The problem with this is, MOST 911 CALLS ARE CELLULAR or soon will be.
Ralph Brandt
PA
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From: Tei [mailto:oscar.vi...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2012 11:15 AM
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Subject: Re: VoIP vs POTS (was Re: Operation Ghost Click)
Perhaps cell towers
On May 3, 2012, at 12:26, Mike Hale wrote:
> Don't cell companies already provide over-ride codes to various
> federal agencies to obtain emergency priority access to cell service?
That would be the Nationwide Wireless Priority Service. Authorized users can
dial *272 to get priority on supporte
That's precisely where SatCom enters the picture. Cell companies
aren't ever going to undersell their bandwidth...that simply isn't
profitable. SatCom is one of the best ways to plan for communications
outages during times of crisis, especially if you choose a provider
that's outside of your area
On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 8:15 AM, Tei wrote:
** Perhaps cell towers can be made to fail sooner, and enter some
** emergency mode where only 911 calls get service.
**
**
**
** --
Don't cell companies already provide over-ride codes to various
federal agencies to obtain emergency priority access to c
Perhaps cell towers can be made to fail sooner, and enter some
emergency mode where only 911 calls get service.
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, 2012 8:25 PM
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Subject: Re: VoIP vs POTS (was Re: Operation Ghost Click)
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> From: "Jeroen van Aart"
> I don't doubt it. However my practical experience is such that 100% of
> the time (I lost count after 20 or so, in a decade) I exper
"I also am concerned about 911 service. When dialing 911 recently from
my mobile, I should have dialed it from my home phone as I was routed a
few times to get to the right fire dispatch team."
I am a "second responder", a member of a Search and Rescue team. The
reason for "second" is because we
- Original Message -
> From: "Jeroen van Aart"
> I don't doubt it. However my practical experience is such that 100% of
> the time (I lost count after 20 or so, in a decade) I experienced a
> power failure the phone would still work. I am sure I am not the only
> one.
Sure. (We're not r
Jared Mauch wrote:
Regarding landline service, this can fail for many of the common reasons it
does are the same reasons that IP service may fail. The failure modes can
depend on a variety of circumstances from the physical layer (e.g.: audible
static on the line) that cause your ear to retra
This device uses cellular only. Don't live in vz territory. Live in AT&T pots
only land. No cable here either.
Jared Mauch
On May 2, 2012, at 5:33 PM, William Herrin wrote:
> On 5/2/12, Jared Mauch wrote:
>> Personally, I'm thinking of ditching my ISDN (gives clear dial tone at a
>> long-dis
On 5/2/12, Jared Mauch wrote:
> Personally, I'm thinking of ditching my ISDN (gives clear dial tone at a
> long-distance from the CO) for something like the Verizon Home Connect box.
> Gives a few hours of built-in battery backup, but would fail once the tower
> loses power (usually 8-12 hours).
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