Re: Time and Timing Servers

2020-02-16 Thread Mike Hammett
From: "Majdi S. Abbas" < m...@latt.net > To: "Mike Hammett" < na...@ics-il.net > Cc: nanog@nanog.org Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2019 9:54:26 AM Subject: Re: Time and Timing Servers On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 09:29:46AM -0500, Mike Hammett wrote: > There were a lot of

Re: Time and Timing Servers

2019-07-15 Thread Brielle Bruns
On 7/15/2019 1:02 PM, Jay R. Ashworth wrote: - Original Message - From: "Majdi S. Abbas" Not only are you dependant on Sprint if you go that route (Verizon is already pulling the plug on CDMA this year.), it was never any better than +/- 10 ms or so. You can get that via NTP

Re: Time and Timing Servers

2019-07-15 Thread Jay R. Ashworth
- Original Message - > From: "Forrest Christian (List Account)" > A couple of thoughts here: > > 1) I know at some sites there is an external, shared, GPS antenna which is > run through a distribution amplifier to clients. Worth checking into just > in case it exists and they forgot to

Re: Time and Timing Servers

2019-07-15 Thread Jay R. Ashworth
- Original Message - > From: "Majdi S. Abbas" > Not only are you dependant on Sprint if you go that route > (Verizon is already pulling the plug on CDMA this year.), it was never > any better than +/- 10 ms or so. You can get that via NTP pointed at > the Internet. Oh, is *that* w

Re: Time and Timing Servers

2019-07-11 Thread Måns Nilsson
Subject: Re: Time and Timing Servers Date: Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 09:11:13PM +0200 Quoting Karsten Elfenbein (karsten.elfenb...@gmail.com): > I think you are referencing their chip scale atomic clocks. Which are very > frequency stable. But still need phase alignment. (Mobile UPS anyone?) T

Re: Time and Timing Servers

2019-07-11 Thread Måns Nilsson
Subject: Re: Time and Timing Servers Date: Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 10:23:41AM -0500 Quoting Mike Hammett (na...@ics-il.net): > I'll look into Meinberg. Meinberg are nice people with good hardware. They can do 2048KHz from GPS and other timing signals, for instance. Then again, some router

Re: Time and Timing Servers

2019-07-11 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
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Re: Time and Timing Servers

2019-07-11 Thread Mike Hammett
ke Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: ke...@contoocook.net To: "Karsten Elfenbein" , "Mike Hammett" Cc: "NANOG" Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2019 3:49:35 PM Subject: Re: Ti

Re: Time and Timing Servers

2019-07-11 Thread keith
I know that many places hosting telecom gear provide "BITS Clock" this is a DS1 with timing.Ask about that, it's an alternative to providing your own.- Original Message -From: "Karsten Elfenbein" To: "Mike Hammett" Sent: Thursday, July 11 2019 03:22:01 PMSubject: Re: Time and Timing Servers

Re: Time and Timing Servers

2019-07-11 Thread Eric S. Raymond
Ethan O'Toole : > > I'm looking for a device that can receive GPS inside a building without > > the assistance of an external antenna (Frontier says they no longer > > allow external antenna), will provide traditional NTP services, and will > > provide a timing signal that my Metaswitch can work wi

Re: Time and Timing Servers

2019-07-11 Thread Karsten Elfenbein
I think you are referencing their chip scale atomic clocks. Which are very frequency stable. But still need phase alignment. (Mobile UPS anyone?) Maybe some peers can provide transparent or boundry clock support. Or someone close by in the DC can add an antenna splitter. Karsten Mike Hammett sc

Re: Time and Timing Servers

2019-07-11 Thread James R Cutler
> On Jul 11, 2019, at 11:23 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: > > I'll look into Meinberg. > > I recent thread mentioned high-sensitivity receivers often allow GPS to work > inside. Obviously "inside" has a lot of definitions. > > I will need this facility for the TDM timing signals. It's a central offi

Re: Time and Timing Servers

2019-07-11 Thread Ethan O'Toole
Isn't a major problem with CDMA-based sources that the networks they depend on are getting shut down? If so, I would imagine there will be timing servers based on the replacement cellular technology. Might ask EndRun or one of their competitors about it. - Ethan

Re: Time and Timing Servers

2019-07-11 Thread Mike Hammett
hris Boyd" To: "NANOG" Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2019 10:03:02 AM Subject: Re: Time and Timing Servers > On Jul 11, 2019, at 10:29 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: > > I'm looking for a device that can receive GPS inside a building without the > assistance of an exter

Re: Time and Timing Servers

2019-07-11 Thread Mike Hammett
ike Hammett" Cc: nanog@nanog.org Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2019 9:54:26 AM Subject: Re: Time and Timing Servers On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 09:29:46AM -0500, Mike Hammett wrote: > There were a lot of NTP threads several weeks ago, but I didn't get an answer > to my question amongst all o

Re: Time and Timing Servers

2019-07-11 Thread Warren Kumari
On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 10:30 AM Mike Hammett wrote: > There were a lot of NTP threads several weeks ago, but I didn't get an > answer to my question amongst all of the other chatter. > > I'm looking for a device that can receive GPS inside a building without > the assistance of an external anten

Re: Time and Timing Servers

2019-07-11 Thread Chris Boyd
> On Jul 11, 2019, at 10:29 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: > > I'm looking for a device that can receive GPS inside a building without the > assistance of an external antenna (Frontier says they no longer allow > external antenna), will provide traditional NTP services, and will provide a > timing

Re: Time and Timing Servers

2019-07-11 Thread Ryan Wilkins
tps://twitter.com/mdwestix> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > From: "Ethan O'Toole" > To: "Mike Hammett" >

Re: Time and Timing Servers

2019-07-11 Thread Majdi S. Abbas
On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 09:50:48AM -0500, Mike Hammett wrote: > Isn't a major problem with CDMA-based sources that the networks > they depend on are getting shut down? Domestically, yes. Not only are you dependant on Sprint if you go that route (Verizon is already pulling the pl

Re: Time and Timing Servers

2019-07-11 Thread Majdi S. Abbas
On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 09:29:46AM -0500, Mike Hammett wrote: > There were a lot of NTP threads several weeks ago, but I didn't get an answer > to my question amongst all of the other chatter. > > I'm looking for a device that can receive GPS inside a building without the > assistance of an ext

Re: Time and Timing Servers

2019-07-11 Thread Mike Hammett
Mike Hammett" Cc: nanog@nanog.org Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2019 9:46:24 AM Subject: Re: Time and Timing Servers > I'm looking for a device that can receive GPS inside a building without > the assistance of an external antenna (Frontier says they no longer > allow external ant

Re: Time and Timing Servers

2019-07-11 Thread Ethan O'Toole
I'm looking for a device that can receive GPS inside a building without the assistance of an external antenna (Frontier says they no longer allow external antenna), will provide traditional NTP services, and will provide a timing signal that my Metaswitch can work with. GPS inside a building p