Re: Survey on the use of IP blacklists for threat mitigation

2020-06-18 Thread Hank Nussbacher
On 16/06/2020 22:08, J. Hellenthal via NANOG wrote: This issue was raised in Reddit and Github: https://www.reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/h149em/calls_to_replace_blacklist_whitelist_black_hat/ https://www.techspot.com/news/85631-github-replace-terms-whi

Re: Survey on the use of IP blacklists for threat mitigation

2020-06-16 Thread Alex Conner
If we want to go down that rabbit trail, then aren’t we talking about Reputation lists? On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 3:44 PM Harald Koch wrote: > On Tue, Jun 16, 2020, at 15:08, J. Hellenthal via NANOG wrote: > > blacklists are not always deny/block/disallow and conformed of things that > allow you t

Re: Survey on the use of IP blacklists for threat mitigation

2020-06-16 Thread Rogers, Zachery
8FAC D6A0 8001 2869 BD52 From: NANOG on behalf of J. Hellenthal via NANOG Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 12:08 PM To: Ryan Landry Cc: NANOG; Rachee Singh Subject: Re: Survey on the use of IP blacklists for threat mitigation Guess we all better start rewriting

Re: Survey on the use of IP blacklists for threat mitigation

2020-06-16 Thread Ryan Landry
J. Hellenthal, thank you for your reply. I am not in marketing. I represent a team of talented network engineers, some of which are persons of color and under-represented minorities. I believe we, as a community, can do better to effect change, and hold each other accountable to this end. It is a

Re: Survey on the use of IP blacklists for threat mitigation

2020-06-16 Thread Harald Koch
On Tue, Jun 16, 2020, at 15:08, J. Hellenthal via NANOG wrote: > blacklists are not always deny/block/disallow and conformed of things that > allow you to take actions whatever your choosing upon their contents and your > policies. > > What’s next ? redlisting ? Don’t offend the Russians ... blu

Re: Survey on the use of IP blacklists for threat mitigation

2020-06-16 Thread J. Hellenthal via NANOG
Guess we all better start rewriting all of the documentation out there because some PC marketing snowflake wants to get extra brownie points and attention for classifying a color in RGB into a racial divide for which it never originated. blacklists are not always deny/block/disallow and conforme

Re: Survey on the use of IP blacklists for threat mitigation

2020-06-16 Thread Gary E. Miller
Yo Rachee! On Tue, 16 Jun 2020 10:59:17 -0700 Rachee Singh wrote: > PS: as someone correctly pointed out, the more appropriate > terminology is "IP blocklists". Google says that descriminates against the Eastern Block of the EU. RGDS GARY ---

Re: Survey on the use of IP blacklists for threat mitigation

2020-06-16 Thread Rachee Singh
We would very much appreciate input from security professionals. PS: as someone correctly pointed out, the more appropriate terminology is "IP blocklists". I apologize for the mistake and I have fixed it in the google survey. Thanks, Rachee On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 10:41 AM Rogers, Zachery < zach

Re: Survey on the use of IP blacklists for threat mitigation

2020-06-16 Thread Rogers, Zachery
Would you be interested in input from security professionals or are you targeting network engineers directly with this? -- Zach Rogers Lead Security Analyst Network Security Monitoring Oregon Research & Teaching Security Operations Center (ORTSOC) Phone: 541.737.7723 GPG Fingerprint: ECC5 03A6 7

Re: Survey on the use of IP blacklists for threat mitigation

2020-06-16 Thread Ryan Landry
In kind, I'd like to encourage the use of terms like permit/accept list or deny/block list. Respectfully, -Ryan On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 11:33 AM Rachee Singh wrote: > Hi NANOG community, > > We are a group of researchers studying the use of IP blacklists as a > mechanism to mitigate security th