On 9/29/10 6:23 AM, Curtis Maurand wrote:
> be even lower power for around $414. Its a nothing box and its not even
> breathing hard. its running on a 100mbps fiber. The speed tests that
> I've run show it running close to wire speed. It would probably run
> even better if I were using real se
What's the real-world power consumption and heat like? 455 days shows
some pretty good reliability!
I reached more than 700 days - then power cycle due (planned) power
maintenance works.
On 9/29/2010 8:59 AM, Heath Jones wrote:
What's the real-world power consumption and heat like? 455 days shows
some pretty good reliability!
Cheers for the info Curtis
That's a really good question. This is a small 260 watt supermicro
short depth (14") 1u system I purchased from tigerdirect.
What's the real-world power consumption and heat like? 455 days shows
some pretty good reliability!
Cheers for the info Curtis
ware forwarding? Real hardware forwarding? Where?
Best Regards,
Nathan Eisenberg
-Original Message-
From: Curtis Maurand [mailto:cmaur...@xyonet.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 5:55 AM
To: Heath Jones
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Software-based Border Router
Vyatta has su
er 28, 2010 10:11 AM
> To: Nathan Eisenberg
> Cc: nanog@nanog.org
> Subject: Re: Software-based Border Router
>
> He must have meant the actual chassis/box/case...
>
> > Vyatta has hardware forwarding? Real hardware forwarding? Where?
>
> >> -Original Me
He must have meant the actual chassis/box/case...
> Vyatta has hardware forwarding? Real hardware forwarding? Where?
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Curtis Maurand [mailto:cmaur...@xyonet.com]
>> Vyatta has support contracts. If you want hardware, they've got that, too.
Vyatta has hardware forwarding? Real hardware forwarding? Where?
Best Regards,
Nathan Eisenberg
> -Original Message-
> From: Curtis Maurand [mailto:cmaur...@xyonet.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 5:55 AM
> To: Heath Jones
> Cc: nanog@nanog.org
> Subject:
Vyatta has support contracts. If you want hardware, they've got that,
too.
On 9/27/2010 6:48 PM, Heath Jones wrote:
Oh, support contract!!?
Differences:
- Hardware forwarding
- Interface options
- Port density
- Redundancy
- Power consumption
- Service Provider stuff - MPLS TE? VPLS? VRF?
I have seen software based routers (FreeBSD+Quagga) in production at pennies on
the dollar compared to Cisco for quite some years.
Up front, as other people have noted, you need to know what you are doing.
There is no 'crying for help 24x7'. By the same token, if you know what you
are doing t
Oh, support contract!!?
> Differences:
> - Hardware forwarding
> - Interface options
> - Port density
> - Redundancy
> - Power consumption
> - Service Provider stuff - MPLS TE? VPLS? VRF??
>
> Any others?
>
Do jitter sensitive applications have problems at all running?
What would you say is the point at which people should be looking for
a hardware forwarding solution?
Differences:
- Hardware forwarding
- Interface options
- Port density
- Redundancy
- Power consumption
- Service Provider stuff - MPL
I haven't found that to be the case. The larger memory space available to
the kernel allows for larger BGP tables and filtering tables. I've seen
BSD based systems running thousands of concurrent tunnels and the
processors available in the linux/BSD space bury anything that the router
manufactur
We use a mix of software and hardware based routers, have found little
difference between the two platforms in terms of performance and
stability. Our software base routers are serving a couple 100Mbps
upstream links running on some HP Proliants with dual PS and dual HD's
that we picked up on e
We have looked at using open source routers for our border, but in the end we
cannot make the numbers add up. Once Cisco released the x9xx ISR2 routers, the
x8xx have tanked in price on the used market. So, for about the same as a
vyatta router running on newer hardware that you can trust you ca
On Sun, 2010-09-26 at 21:45 -0500, Chris Adams wrote:
> Yeah, because IOS and JUNOS don't have idiosyncrasies. :-)
Not gonna argue with you on that one. However, the world has changed
since the days where the chances of clueful unix systems engineering
knowledge and clueful BGP routing knowledge
Once upon a time, William Herrin said:
> Quagga on Linux is a fine software, but messing with the
> idiosyncrasies is far more time consuming than buying a Cisco 2811,
> adding enough RAM to handle BGP, configuring it once and forgetting
> about it.
Yeah, because IOS and JUNOS don't have idiosync
21:57
To: William Herrin
Cc:
Subject: Re: Software-based Border Router
Another big problem for Linux/Unix-based routers of this size/cost is
upgrade-ability. If you need to add cards, you are going to have to bring
the router down for extended periods. Likewise, a software upgrade can be
a b
Another big problem for Linux/Unix-based routers of this size/cost is
upgrade-ability. If you need to add cards, you are going to have to bring
the router down for extended periods. Likewise, a software upgrade can be
a bigger deal than on a purpose designed router. If a router is mission
Another big problem for Linux/Unix-based routers of this size/cost is
upgrade-ability. If you need to add cards, you are going to have to bring
the router down for extended periods. Likewise, a software upgrade can be
a bigger deal than on a purpose designed router. If a router is mission
cri
On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 6:15 AM, Nathanael C. Cariaga
wrote:
> Thank you for the prompt response. Just to clarify my previous
> post, I was actually referring to Linux/Unix-based routers.
> We've been considering this solution because presently we
> don't have any budget for equipment acquisition
If one has a cisco 7200, then you have a software based border router.
Considerations, for a given router platform are capacity, susceptability to
dos, features required etc. Depending on the capacity required a software
device could do fine. If it's in front of hosting environment you want to
:15 AM
To: sth...@nethelp.no
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Software-based Border Router
Thank you for the prompt response. Just to clarify my previous post, I was
actually referring to Linux/Unix-based routers. We've been considering this
solution because presently we don't have
Dear Nathanael,
Just want to ask if anyone here had experience deploying software-based
routers to serve as perimeter / border router? How does it gauge with
hardware-based routers? Any past experiences will be very much
appreciated.
I wanted to know because we've been asked if we want to a
y, September 26, 2010 5:59:21 PM
Subject: Re: Software-based Border Router
> Just want to ask if anyone here had experience deploying software-based
> routers to serve as perimeter / border router? How does it gauge with
> hardware-based routers? Any past experiences will be very much
> Just want to ask if anyone here had experience deploying software-based
> routers to serve as perimeter / border router? How does it gauge with
> hardware-based routers? Any past experiences will be very much appreciated.
Software based routers (e.g. Cisco 7200 series) have been used as borde
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