On 8/7/24 22:18, Siyuan Miao via NANOG wrote:
CoreSite now charges a disconnect fee for all cross-connects in addition
to the MRC and connection fee.
Wait, really? How new is this fee? As a current CoreSite customer we
have not noticed any disconnect fee. Only a NRC for the setup and then a
M
On 08/08/2024 00:07:44, "Eric Kuhnke" wrote:
From a strictly physical cabling point of view, while 10GBaseT is likely to
work on ordinary cat5e or cat 6 cabling at very short distances such as
from a server to a top of rack aggregation switch, more successful results
will be seen with cat6a.
Yo
nanog@nanog.org (Siyuan Miao via NANOG) wrote:
> CoreSite now charges a disconnect fee for all cross-connects in addition to
> the MRC and connection fee.
As have so many others. It could be justified *if* they actually removed the
physical crossconnect.
My last visit to the site was >10 years a
I completely agree, the original "rfq" is super suspicious. There's no need
to require to be specifically at One Wilshire for a single 1U server
(particularly with only 10GbE interfaces, not 100), since the most
effective use of being at a major interconnect point like that is only if
you're prepar
:13 PM
To: Christopher Morrow
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Server rental inside of One Wilshire in Los Angeles
On Wed, 7 Aug 2024 at 20:05, Christopher Morrow wrote:
> I'd bet the real answer is that someone wants to connect a commodity
> server to an IX and pretend to be
> som
CoreSite now charges a disconnect fee for all cross-connects in addition to
the MRC and connection fee.
If you don't plan to cross-connect at CoreSite LA1 (One Wilshire), you may
consider other nearby facilities. Most facilities are backhauled there
anyway.
On Thu, Aug 8, 2024 at 1:15 PM Saku Ytt
On Wed, 7 Aug 2024 at 20:05, Christopher Morrow wrote:
> I'd bet the real answer is that someone wants to connect a commodity
> server to an IX and pretend to be
> some network/asn and then do some not terrific things with that setup :(
>
> seen this in AMSIX and DECIX ... don't know that I've no
On 8/8/24 03:37, William Herrin wrote:
Hi Eric,
All of these are excellent reasons why the DC -operator- should want
to use fiber in 10GE links.
The question was: why does a DC -customer- want 40 gigs of
specifically fiber optic connections in what is otherwise a minimum
server configurati
On Wed, Aug 7, 2024 at 4:07 PM Eric Kuhnke wrote:
> Your typical cat 6A cable is significantly fatter in diameter, less flexible
> and [...]
Hi Eric,
All of these are excellent reasons why the DC -operator- should want
to use fiber in 10GE links.
The question was: why does a DC -customer- want
>From a strictly physical cabling point of view, while 10GBaseT is likely to
work on ordinary cat5e or cat 6 cabling at very short distances such as
from a server to a top of rack aggregation switch, more successful results
will be seen with cat6a.
Your typical cat 6A cable is significantly fatter
On 8/7/24 18:52, Saku Ytti wrote:
I think this is the least bad explanation, some explanations are that
copper may not be available, but that doesn't explain preference. Nor
do I think wattage/heat explains preference, as it's hosted, so
customers probably shouldn't care. Latency could very we
On Wed, Aug 7, 2024 at 12:52 PM Saku Ytti wrote:
>
> budget, the actual hardware becomes very important, so i think lack of
> specificity there implies it's not about latency.
I'd bet the real answer is that someone wants to connect a commodity
server to an IX and pretend to be
some network/asn a
On Wed, 7 Aug 2024 at 17:41, Brandon Martin wrote:
> Among the other reasons folks have given, the 10GBASE-T PHY has added
> latency beyond the basic packetization/serialization delay inherent to
> Ethernet due to the use of a relatively long line code plus LDPC. It's
> not much (2-4us which is
mark@tinka.africa (Mark Tinka) wrote:
> Unless others have done it differently, what I used to do was run fibre to
> whatever the local terminal server's gateway router was, and use copper
> within or between (nearby) racks between the terminal server and the end
> device.
Oh sure, if you have an
On 8/7/24 17:38, Elmar K. Bins wrote:
Which is really detrimental if you need to OOB connect a server. IPMI ports are
generally copper; I suppose that will change, but it hasn't yet.
Unless others have done it differently, what I used to do was run fibre
to whatever the local terminal serv
br...@shout.net (Bryan Holloway) wrote:
> Many of the big DCs don't do copper xconns anymore, so if you have a server
> with optical NICs, you don't need a switch or media-converter.
Which is really detrimental if you need to OOB connect a server. IPMI ports are
generally copper; I suppose that w
On 8/7/24 16:14, Bryan Holloway wrote:
Many of the big DCs don't do copper xconns anymore, so if you have a
server with optical NICs, you don't need a switch or media-converter.
If it's in-rack or in-cage (or even in-contiguous-row racks), most data
centres may permit your own copper x-co
On 8/7/24 02:01, Saku Ytti wrote:
I can't help you, but I'm just awfully curious and must ask, why
specifically optical ports? Seems very strange and a limiting
requirement for upside that my imagination struggles to find.
Among the other reasons folks have given, the 10GBASE-T PHY has added
l
On 8/7/24 08:17, Mark Tinka wrote:
On 8/7/24 08:01, Saku Ytti wrote:
I can't help you, but I'm just awfully curious and must ask, why
specifically optical ports? Seems very strange and a limiting
requirement for upside that my imagination struggles to find.
Many of the reasons I've hear
On 8/7/24 08:01, Saku Ytti wrote:
I can't help you, but I'm just awfully curious and must ask, why
specifically optical ports? Seems very strange and a limiting
requirement for upside that my imagination struggles to find.
Many of the reasons I've heard for folk going optical for servers
I can't help you, but I'm just awfully curious and must ask, why
specifically optical ports? Seems very strange and a limiting
requirement for upside that my imagination struggles to find.
On Tue, 6 Aug 2024 at 21:51, Walt wrote:
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