Re: Peering Exchange

2016-01-26 Thread Julien Goodwin
On 27/01/16 06:30, Mike Hammett wrote: Google or Facebook are exactly who you would want to connect with and I'm fairly sure they're on the route servers. Google (AS15169) should be present on route servers at all exchanges they're present at that have them. Generally as missing cases are no

Re: Peering Exchange

2016-01-26 Thread Mark Tinka
On 26/Jan/16 22:22, Daniel Corbe wrote: > Some exchanges (like Equinix) do publish information about who is on their > route servers, but they only make that information available to other > customers. Some exchange points provide that information publicly as well. Different strokes. Mark.

Re: Peering Exchange

2016-01-26 Thread Colton Conor
Someone actually sent me a list from Equinix. If it says MLPE next to the IP address of the provider then I assume they are using the MLPE route server, and if not I assume you have to reach out to peer with them. Does that sound accurate? On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 3:32 PM, Bryan Socha wrote: > Ch

Re: Peering Exchange

2016-01-26 Thread Bryan Socha via NANOG
Check out nl nog's the ring (they have a looking glass), routeviews or ripe's RIS project (bgplay) being an interface to the data).You should be able to find someone sending up bgp data to these projects that include the route servers on different IX points. Bryan Socha Network Engineer Digit

Re: Peering Exchange

2016-01-26 Thread Justin Wilson
You have a couple of things to consider. Most exchanges have route servers. Some folks peer with those and pretty much anyone can gain access to these route servers. Not everyone peers with these however. In the large IXes it’s typically the small to medium folks who are on the route servers.

Re: Peering Exchange

2016-01-26 Thread Jörg Kost
Some exchanges run an open looking glass with BGP summary access, e.g. DE-CIX Frankfurt route servers: https://lg.de-cix.net/ Else you could also take a look in the common route registry databases. Regards Joerg On 26 Jan 2016, at 21:09, Colton Conor wrote: Is there a way to browse a route se

Re: Peering Exchange

2016-01-26 Thread Daniel Corbe
> On Jan 26, 2016, at 3:22 PM, Daniel Corbe wrote: > > >> On Jan 26, 2016, at 3:09 PM, Colton Conor wrote: >> >> Is there a way to browse a route server at certain exchanges, and see who >> is and is not on the route server? >> > > Publicly? No. > > Best way is to peer with one and see wh

Re: Peering Exchange

2016-01-26 Thread Daniel Corbe
> On Jan 26, 2016, at 3:09 PM, Colton Conor wrote: > > Is there a way to browse a route server at certain exchanges, and see who > is and is not on the route server? > Publicly? No. Best way is to peer with one and see what routes it’s giving you. Some exchanges (like Equinix) do publish

Re: Peering Exchange

2016-01-26 Thread Colton Conor
Is there a way to browse a route server at certain exchanges, and see who is and is not on the route server? On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 1:46 PM, Hugo Slabbert wrote: > On Tue 2016-Jan-26 13:30:41 -0600, Mike Hammett wrote: > > Google or Facebook are exactly who you would want to connect with and I

Re: Peering Exchange

2016-01-26 Thread Hugo Slabbert
On Tue 2016-Jan-26 13:30:41 -0600, Mike Hammett wrote: Google or Facebook are exactly who you would want to connect with and I'm fairly sure they're on the route servers. ...and have open peering policies with pretty low requirements. https://peering.google.com/about/peering_policy.html htt

RE: Peering Exchange

2016-01-26 Thread Steve Mikulasik
...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 12:31 PM Cc: NANOG Subject: Re: Peering Exchange Google or Facebook are exactly who you would want to connect with and I'm fairly sure they're on the route servers. Other than driving additional revenue by needing to bu

Re: Peering Exchange

2016-01-26 Thread Mike Hammett
r every new fad that comes along. They all just boil down to an Ethernet fabric. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: "Nick Ellermann" To: "Colton Conor" , "NANOG" Sent: Tuesday, Janu

RE: Peering Exchange

2016-01-26 Thread Nick Ellermann
Colton, Sorry, hit send before I was done! You mentioned an enterprise, if that was the case you may want to look at Equinix's Cloud Exchange. The Equinix IX is really meant for like-minded Network operators and Content providers to exchange routes on an exchange so that we don't require multipl

RE: Peering Exchange

2016-01-26 Thread Jon Lewis
On Tue, 26 Jan 2016, Nick Ellermann wrote: Colton, We are a member on the Equinix IX. Maybe best for you to speak to an Equinix SE on the topic, but there are two main connection methods. In laymen's terms you can be a member on the switch and then build peering relationships within any othe

RE: Peering Exchange

2016-01-26 Thread Nick Ellermann
Colton, We are a member on the Equinix IX. Maybe best for you to speak to an Equinix SE on the topic, but there are two main connection methods. In laymen's terms you can be a member on the switch and then build peering relationships within any other network that will have you. Meaning, you rea

Re: Peering Exchange

2016-01-25 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
Hi Colton, There are three ways to peer with another entity on any exchange. 1) peer via the exchange provided route-servers. 2) peer directly with other members the exchange's provided IP address. 3) peer via a private vlan service provided by the exchange. To setup # 1, you have to ask the p

RE: Peering Exchange Configurations

2010-04-08 Thread Aaron Wendel
-Original Message- On Apr 8, 2010, at 2:08 PM, Owen DeLong wrote: >>3a) If no: Do participants typically preference exchange-learned >> routes over other sources? >> >> Yes. As far as I know all our members set routes learned through the >> exchange fabric higher than anything el

Re: Peering Exchange Configurations

2010-04-08 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Apr 8, 2010, at 2:08 PM, Owen DeLong wrote: >>3a) If no: Do participants typically preference exchange-learned >> routes over other sources? >> >> Yes. As far as I know all our members set routes learned through the >> exchange fabric higher than anything else. That's kind of the point

Re: Peering Exchange Configurations

2010-04-08 Thread Owen DeLong
> > 3a) If no: Do participants typically preference exchange-learned > routes over other sources? > > Yes. As far as I know all our members set routes learned through the > exchange fabric higher than anything else. That's kind of the point as > exchange traffic is free so you always want

RE: Peering Exchange Configurations

2010-04-08 Thread Aaron Wendel
I operate the exchange point in the Kansas City area so I'll answer your questions based on how we do it. 1) Is a private AS typically used for the exchange side of the session? No. Each participant uses their own ASN. 2) Are RFC1918 IPs typically used for the p2p links into the exchange? No.

Re: Peering Exchange Configurations

2010-04-08 Thread Jake Khuon
On Thu, 2010-04-08 at 11:02 -0500, Brad Fleming wrote: > 1) Is a private AS typically used for the exchange side of the session? Not in a typical public internet exchange. that said, there is no reason why one could not build an exchange point that uses private ASNs. One might do this for a spec

Re: Peering Exchange Configurations

2010-04-08 Thread Chris Costa
Some Research&Education type peering exchanges, like Pacific Wave http://www.pacificwave.net/ , support ipv4 multicast forwarding. As an exchange operator you'd want to support PIM-Snooping and the ability to disable DR-Flooding to control those flows just to the networks that joined them

Re: Peering Exchange Configurations

2010-04-08 Thread Joe Abley
On 2010-04-08, at 12:42, Elmar K. Bins wrote: > jab...@hopcount.ca (Joe Abley) wrote: > >>> 1) Is a private AS typically used for the exchange side of the session? >> No. Also many exchange points do not run route servers at all, and expect >> participants to build bilateral BGP sessions direct

Re: Peering Exchange Configurations

2010-04-08 Thread Grzegorz Janoszka
On 8-4-2010 18:02, Brad Fleming wrote: 1) Is a private AS typically used for the exchange side of the session? No. 2) Are RFC1918 IPs typically used for the p2p links into the exchange? No. In EU usually it is separate public /24, /23 or /22. The IPv6 range in RIPE region for exchanges is

Re: Peering Exchange Configurations

2010-04-08 Thread Elmar K. Bins
Re JOe, jab...@hopcount.ca (Joe Abley) wrote: > > 1) Is a private AS typically used for the exchange side of the session? > No. Also many exchange points do not run route servers at all, and expect > participants to build bilateral BGP sessions directly between each other. ...which is a shame.

Re: Peering Exchange Configurations

2010-04-08 Thread Joe Abley
On 2010-04-08, at 12:02, Brad Fleming wrote: > 1) Is a private AS typically used for the exchange side of the session? No. Also many exchange points do not run route servers at all, and expect participants to build bilateral BGP sessions directly between each other. > 2) Are RFC1918 IPs typica

Re: Peering Exchange Configurations

2010-04-08 Thread Massimiliano Stucchi
On 08/04/10 18:02, Brad Fleming wrote: > 1) Is a private AS typically used for the exchange side of the session? No. Everybody uses his own AS number to establish sessions at peering points. > 2) Are RFC1918 IPs typically used for the p2p links into the exchange? No. You usually get an IP add