Re: Muni Fiber and Politics - ENDGAME

2014-07-22 Thread Michael Hallgren
Le 22/07/2014 20:34, Mikael Abrahamsson a écrit : > On Tue, 22 Jul 2014, Jay Ashworth wrote: > >> You can assume $8-1200 per passing, if you fiber the entire town at >> once (my example was 12000 passings, 3-pr, in 2.3 sqmi). Then you're >> going to have to operate the core, which will take power

Re: Muni Fiber and Politics - ENDGAME

2014-07-22 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Tue, 22 Jul 2014, Bruce H McIntosh wrote: How often do they refresh and/or forklift their infrastructure? They're not still running on mid90s optical gear, I hope? They are not running any optical gear, they rent dark fiber to enterprise and ISPs. Lately they have installed one strand of

Re: Muni Fiber and Politics - ENDGAME

2014-07-22 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - > From: "Mikael Abrahamsson" > On Tue, 22 Jul 2014, Jay Ashworth wrote: > > > You can assume $8-1200 per passing, if you fiber the entire town at > > once > > (my example was 12000 passings, 3-pr, in 2.3 sqmi). Then you're > > going > > to have to operate the core, w

Re: Muni Fiber and Politics - ENDGAME

2014-07-22 Thread Bruce H McIntosh
On Tue, 2014-07-22 at 20:34 +0200, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: > On Tue, 22 Jul 2014, Jay Ashworth wrote: > > And where's that money come from? Yup: local taxes, mostly property. > > Stockholm municipal fiber (L1 only) has been operating fiber network since > 1994, they're doing ~20MUSD profit on

Re: Muni Fiber and Politics - ENDGAME

2014-07-22 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Tue, 22 Jul 2014, Jay Ashworth wrote: You can assume $8-1200 per passing, if you fiber the entire town at once (my example was 12000 passings, 3-pr, in 2.3 sqmi). Then you're going to have to operate the core, which will take power and at least 5 people to man it 24/7. And finally, figure

Re: Muni Fiber and Politics - ENDGAME

2014-07-22 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - > From: "Aaron" > So let me throw out a purely hypothetical scenario to the collective: > > What do you think the consequences to a municipality would be if they > laid fiber to every house in the city and gave away internet access for > free? Not the WiFi builds we