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> From: "Jared Mauch"
> During the northeast power outage the biggest local problem was
> inability to pump gas out of underground tanks. The margin at the
> stations is low enough it's not worth it to have generators. Best off
> having the pipeline next to you and to
lto:o...@delong.com]
Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 12:05 AM
To: frnk...@iname.com
Cc: NANOG; Jared Mauch
Subject: Re: Muni Fiber Last Mile - a contrary opinion
On Dec 26, 2010, at 7:35 PM, Frank Bulk - iName.com wrote:
>>> You are likely already at the mercy of some local hut for your dia
On Monday, December 27, 2010 01:04:33 am Owen DeLong wrote:
> On Dec 26, 2010, at 7:35 PM, Frank Bulk - iName.com wrote:
> Does that back up the cablemodem in the residence? If not, game over.
>
> Owen
All of the Arris eMTA models have a version with built in battery backup, and
as I recall drop
On Sun, Dec 26, 2010, Owen DeLong wrote:
> > [Frank Bulk]
> > Some MSOs (including ourselves) have power systems (e.g. Alpha) in place
> > throughout the plant to provide backup power for at least some time.
> >
>
> Does that back up the cablemodem in the residence? If not, game over.
Thing is,
On 12/26/10 10:04 PM, Owen DeLong wrote:
>
> On Dec 26, 2010, at 7:35 PM, Frank Bulk - iName.com wrote:
>> [Frank Bulk]
>> Some MSOs (including ourselves) have power systems (e.g. Alpha) in place
>> throughout the plant to provide backup power for at least some time.
>>
>
> Does that back up the
On Dec 26, 2010, at 7:35 PM, Frank Bulk - iName.com wrote:
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Owen DeLong [mailto:o...@delong.com]
>> Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2010 9:11 PM
>> To: Jared Mauch
>> Cc: NANOG
>> Subject: Re: Muni Fiber Last Mile - a
Once upon a time, Michael DeMan said:
> On Dec 26, 2010, at 8:07 PM, Chris Adams wrote:
> > The AT&T (formerly BellSouth) cabinets around here mostly have natural
> > gas generators included, so they almost never go out. The cable
> > companies, on the other hand, might have enough battery to las
On Dec 26, 2010, at 8:07 PM, Chris Adams wrote:
> The AT&T (formerly BellSouth) cabinets around here mostly have natural
> gas generators included, so they almost never go out. The cable
> companies, on the other hand, might have enough battery to last through
> a brownout.
Interesting - out of
This thread is really interesting to see what's happening in .us with power.
I've been following what's going on in .au with their ftth project
(doing the whole country and pulling out the legacy copper systems, both
tp and hfc) and there's been a bit of talk about issues in power cuts.
I'm i
Once upon a time, Jared Mauch said:
> You are likely already at the mercy of some local hut for your
> dialtone. Very few things home run to the co these days. It's unlikely
> any hut has more than 24 hours of battery.
The AT&T (formerly BellSouth) cabinets around here mostly have natural
gas ge
> -Original Message-
> From: Owen DeLong [mailto:o...@delong.com]
> Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2010 9:11 PM
> To: Jared Mauch
> Cc: NANOG
> Subject: Re: Muni Fiber Last Mile - a contrary opinion
>
> On Dec 26, 2010, at 4:37 PM, Jared Mauch wrote:
>
> > Yo
On Dec 26, 2010, at 4:37 PM, Jared Mauch wrote:
> You are likely already at the mercy of some local hut for your dialtone. Very
> few things home run to the co these days. It's unlikely any hut has more than
> 24 hours of battery.
>
I know this is true where FTTN overlays have been built. How
> From: Jared Mauch
> Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2010 4:37 PM
> To: George Bonser
> Cc: Nathan Eisenberg; NANOG
> Subject: Re: Muni Fiber Last Mile - a contrary opinion
>
> You are likely already at the mercy of some local hut for your
> dialtone. Very few things home
On 12/26/10 4:37 PM, Jared Mauch wrote:
> You are likely already at the mercy of some local hut for your dialtone. Very
> few things home run to the co these days. It's unlikely any hut has more than
> 24 hours of battery.
>
> I have talked to local techs that make the same trip each shift to f
You are likely already at the mercy of some local hut for your dialtone. Very
few things home run to the co these days. It's unlikely any hut has more than
24 hours of battery.
I have talked to local techs that make the same trip each shift to fuel the
generator during regular or minor power o
On 12/24/2010 1:39 AM, William Allen Simpson wrote:
On 12/23/10 12:27 PM, Jay Ashworth wrote:
I was poking around to see what the current received wisdom was as to
average install cost per building for suburban municipal home-run fiber,
and ran across this article, which discusses the topic, and
On 12/23/10 12:27 PM, Jay Ashworth wrote:
I was poking around to see what the current received wisdom was as to
average install cost per building for suburban municipal home-run fiber,
and ran across this article, which discusses the topic, and itemizes
several large such deployments that "failed
There is a large difference between muni-fiber that attempts to
compete for some of the best customers (e.g. the following the
tranditional overbuild method) and muni-fiber who's goal is universal
service of fiber to the home.
Basically it is the difference between a small entity (the town) going
- Original Message -
> From: "Nathan Eisenberg"
> I got a chuckle out of this:
> "Provo County’s iProvo was hoping for 10,000 subscribers by July 2006
> with the assumption that 75% of those customers would subscribe to
> lucrative triple play services, but the reality was 10,000 customer
>
> A 75% upsell rate to triple play packages seems ludicrous. I can't
> think of any industry that sees an upsell rate of 75% - can you (hell,
> I sold running shoes in high school, and the -target- upsell rate on
> shoestrings/socks/whatever-else was 15%).
>
> Nathan
Well, I won't get rid of
> I'd be interested to see what comments nanogers have on this piece. I'm not
> well enough read to critically evaluate the guy's assertions.
I'm not familiar with a GPON system that provides gigabit to every subscriber
under 'high congestion'.I do know of FTTN systems that can provide a lot
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