Re: Low density Juniper (or alternative) Edge

Hi Mark, Mark Tinka schrieb am So., 28. Feb. 2016 07:13: > > > On 3/Feb/16 09:58, Nick Hilliard wrote: > > > Typically the features that fall by the wayside first are: reasonable > > port buffers, qos knobs and decent lag/ecmp hashing support for mpls > > packets. > > Cisco, in general, are suff

Re: Low density Juniper (or alternative) Edge

On 15/Mar/16 20:14, ML-NANOG-Stefan-Jakob wrote: > > Do yo have more details what's wrong with the XR platform? > > Which hardware do we talk about and which XR version is your statement > applying? Well, as it turns out, I just found out and confirmed that since IOS XE 3.12S and later, Cisco i

Re: Low density Juniper (or alternative) Edge

On 6/Feb/16 23:41, Josh Reynolds wrote: > Newer, more expensive, more bugs. 4500 is cheap on the secondary market. The EX4600 is actually just a shy cheaper than the EX4550. We are looking at it not because the EX4550 is a bad box, but because Juniper are focusing development on the EX4600 inst

Re: Low density Juniper (or alternative) Edge

On 3/Feb/16 09:58, Nick Hilliard wrote: > Typically the features that fall by the wayside first are: reasonable > port buffers, qos knobs and decent lag/ecmp hashing support for mpls > packets. Cisco, in general, are suffering here, i.e., QoS on LAG's. IOS, IOS XE and IOS XR suffer massively.

Re: Low density Juniper (or alternative) Edge

On 2/Feb/16 23:03, David Bass wrote: > Looking to see what others are using out there as an alternative to a Cisco > ME3600X? Also, what other vendors out there are playing in this space? > > Need a full MPLS stack. . Cisco ASR920 - an evolution of the ME3600X, cheaper, more featured and simpl

Re: Low density Juniper (or alternative) Edge

meron Ferdinands" , nanog@nanog.org Sent: Saturday, February 6, 2016 3:41:50 PM Subject: Re: Low density Juniper (or alternative) Edge Newer, more expensive, more bugs. 4500 is cheap on the secondary market. On Feb 6, 2016 3:38 PM, "David Bass" wrote: > Yeah, on the list

Re: Low density Juniper (or alternative) Edge

Newer, more expensive, more bugs. 4500 is cheap on the secondary market. On Feb 6, 2016 3:38 PM, "David Bass" wrote: > Yeah, on the list...well the 4600 is since it's somewhat the replacement > to the 4500/4550. > > On Feb 6, 2016, at 1:55 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: > > Why not consider an EX4500?

Re: Low density Juniper (or alternative) Edge

Yeah, on the list...well the 4600 is since it's somewhat the replacement to the 4500/4550. > On Feb 6, 2016, at 1:55 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: > > Why not consider an EX4500? > >> On Feb 6, 2016 12:24 PM, "Cameron Ferdinands" >> wrote: >> If you need high-er density 10GE. Consider an Juniper

Re: Low density Juniper (or alternative) Edge

Why not consider an EX4500? On Feb 6, 2016 12:24 PM, "Cameron Ferdinands" wrote: > If you need high-er density 10GE. Consider an Juniper ACX5048. > > Great edge box, MPLS features, it's essentially just a QFX with > repartitioned CAM / some tricks to get the most out of the Trident II > chipset.

Re: Low density Juniper (or alternative) Edge

Thanks for all the insight everyone...very helpful discussion! Has anyone see the SRX deployed in these situations? We have been talking to Juniper about the ACX, and they seem to be pushing it as a Metro E, or in situations where you don't need a lot of features (like a L2 agg point for wire

Re: Low density Juniper (or alternative) Edge

If you need high-er density 10GE. Consider an Juniper ACX5048. Great edge box, MPLS features, it's essentially just a QFX with repartitioned CAM / some tricks to get the most out of the Trident II chipset. Won't do a bunch of things, so make sure it's exactly what you need or you'll burn yourself

Re: Low density Juniper (or alternative) Edge

We use the Accedian Metro Nid in places. They work well, but are layer 2 only -- at least the ones we got. -Original Message- From: "Colton Conor" Sent: Wednesday, February 3, 2016 9:34am To: "Nick Hilliard" Cc: "NANOG" Subject: Re: Low density

Re: Low density Juniper (or alternative) Edge

I see Cisco and Juniper mentioned here, but what about all the smart NID companies out there? I found these of MEF list: Accedian, Altera, BTI Systems, Ciena (Nasdaq: CIEN ), Cisco (Nasdaq: CSCO ), Cyan, FibroLAN, H

Re: Low density Juniper (or alternative) Edge

David Bass wrote: > Looking to see what others are using out there as an alternative to a > Cisco ME3600X? Also, what other vendors out there are playing in this > space? > > Need a full MPLS stack. Before choosing a box, you need to figure out: - how many ports you need, and of what speed - how

Re: Low density Juniper (or alternative) Edge

Thanks to all that have replied! Yes, I just started looking at the ASR9xx series of routers as well...seems like a likely alternative if we go with Cisco. > On Feb 2, 2016, at 5:19 PM, Jérôme Nicolle wrote: > > Hi David, > > Le 02/02/2016 22:03, David Bass a écrit : >> Looking to see what o

Re: Low density Juniper (or alternative) Edge

Le 02/02/2016 23:38, Colton Conor a écrit : > We use some of the 7360's, but not the Mikrotik. Why not use ALU's CPE > devices if using the 7360? I'd use ALU's ONTs (there's now a SFP GPON stick available too) or RGWs on the client side, the Mikrotik here is the PE router, because ALU's FANT-F

RE: Low density Juniper (or alternative) Edge

Depending on your interpretation of full MPLS stack, you can look into the Brocade CES. -Original Message- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of David Bass Sent: Tuesday, February 2, 2016 4:04 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Low density Juniper (or alternative) Edge

Re: Low density Juniper (or alternative) Edge

Jerome, We use some of the 7360's, but not the Mikrotik. Why not use ALU's CPE devices if using the 7360? On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 4:19 PM, Jérôme Nicolle wrote: > Hi David, > > Le 02/02/2016 22:03, David Bass a écrit : > > Looking to see what others are using out there as an alternative to a > C

Re: Low density Juniper (or alternative) Edge

Hi, The ZTE 5900E series has a full MPLS stack and is solid hardware. Much cheaper than Cisco and Juniper. http://wwwen.zte.com.cn/en/products/bearer/data_communication/ethernet_switch/201309/t20130917_405917.html Regards, Baldur On 2 February 2016 at 22:03, David Bass wrote: > Looking to s

Re: Low density Juniper (or alternative) Edge

David Bass wrote: > Looking to see what others are using out there as an alternative to a > Cisco ME3600X? Also, what other vendors out there are playing in this > space? > > Need a full MPLS stack. Features, speed, price: choose 2. Wait, you said MPLS: choose 1.5. Nick

Re: Low density Juniper (or alternative) Edge

Hi David, Le 02/02/2016 22:03, David Bass a écrit : > Looking to see what others are using out there as an alternative to a Cisco > ME3600X? I'd rather use the ASR920, the ME3600X is too deep to fit in some PoPs. It also has a higher 10G port count. Alternatively, on low cost deployments, I use