Re: Issues with Gmail

2009-09-02 Thread Michael Thomas
On 09/02/2009 11:20 AM, joel jaeggli wrote: Long before we has widespread commercial internet, we still had to have the backup plan for when the single highly fault tollerant entitity on which we were dependant on for a particular service went out. Sometimes, that plan is wait for restoration,

Re: Issues with Gmail

2009-09-02 Thread Robert Mathews (OSIA)
Michael Thomas wrote: > I think that Randy might be conflating single point of failure with > "resilience". Google, distributed on every level as it is, is still > just one operator and in this case the lemmings faithfully followed > each other into the sea. We've been on an anti-resilience binge f

Re: Issues with Gmail

2009-09-02 Thread Michael Thomas
On 09/02/2009 10:33 AM, Robert Mathews (OSIA) wrote: On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 5:05 AM, Randy Bush wrote: [] the internet is a wonderful demonstration of building a reliable network out of reliable components. but what we have with google mail (and apps) is two scary problems o way too many

Re: Issues with Gmail

2009-09-02 Thread Robert Mathews (OSIA)
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 5:05 AM, Randy Bush wrote: > [] the internet is a wonderful > demonstration of building a reliable network out of reliable components. > > but what we have with google mail (and apps) is two scary problems > > o way too many users relying on a single point of failure. s

Re: Issues with Gmail

2009-09-02 Thread Jay Farrell
There's a post-mortem on the gmail blog: NANOG list http://gmailblog.blogspot.com/2009/09/more-on-todays-gmail-issue.html

Re: Issues with Gmail

2009-09-02 Thread Martin Hannigan
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 5:05 AM, Randy Bush wrote: > happens and services break. the internet is a wonderful > demonstration of building a reliable network out of reliable components. > > but what we have with google mail (and apps) is two scary problems > > o way too many users relying on a si

Re: Issues with Gmail

2009-09-02 Thread Randy Bush
happens and services break. the internet is a wonderful demonstration of building a reliable network out of reliable components. but what we have with google mail (and apps) is two scary problems o way too many users relying on a single point of failure. so it makes the nyt when it break

Re: Issues with Gmail

2009-09-01 Thread Sam Oduor
Back up .. Nairobi Kenya. On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 12:01 AM, Jason Lixfeld wrote: > On 2009-09-01, at 4:34 PM, James Downs wrote: > > >> On Sep 1, 2009, at 1:11 PM, Dominic J. Eidson wrote: >> >> It appears to be much more a problem with gmail (the MUA) than gmail >>> (the MDA). >>> >>> Gmail/im

Re: Issues with Gmail

2009-09-01 Thread Jason Lixfeld
On 2009-09-01, at 4:34 PM, James Downs wrote: On Sep 1, 2009, at 1:11 PM, Dominic J. Eidson wrote: It appears to be much more a problem with gmail (the MUA) than gmail (the MDA). Gmail/imap appears to be working fine, at least from AUS. Same thing here in the US. Pop/Imap access remain

Re: Issues with Gmail

2009-09-01 Thread Jon Kibler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 u...@3.am wrote: > > pop.gmail.com is answering on port 995 (pop3 ssl) as well, so I think > it's safe to assume this is probably a httpd-side problem. > > On Tue, 1 Sep 2009, Jeff Kell wrote: > Google says they have issues with gmail: http://gm

Re: Issues with Gmail

2009-09-01 Thread AMuse
As a government-employed computer security guy who has never owned or worn a suit OR tie, I feel entitled to ask... WTF? Nick Hilliard wrote: On 01/09/2009 21:01, Jim Wininger wrote: Anyone else seeing issues with gmail? Down, definitely down. Call the White House! It should be clear t

Re: Issues with Gmail

2009-09-01 Thread up
pop.gmail.com is answering on port 995 (pop3 ssl) as well, so I think it's safe to assume this is probably a httpd-side problem. On Tue, 1 Sep 2009, Jeff Kell wrote: m...@sabbota.com wrote: I think it just may be front end services that are impacted. I'm able to send/receive mail through

Re: Re: Issues with Gmail

2009-09-01 Thread tome . nerd
access via igoogle via a web client works as well ... On Sep 1, 2009 4:25pm, Glenn Johnson wrote: FWIW: http://gmail.com doesn't work for me either right now, but I've read the whole "Issues with Gmail" thread and posted this email via GMail POP and GMail SMTP glenn.s.john...@g

Re: Issues with Gmail

2009-09-01 Thread James Downs
On Sep 1, 2009, at 1:11 PM, Dominic J. Eidson wrote: It appears to be much more a problem with gmail (the MUA) than gmail (the MDA). Gmail/imap appears to be working fine, at least from AUS. Same thing here in the US. Pop/Imap access remains solid. I never use the web interface. -j

Re: Issues with Gmail

2009-09-01 Thread deleskie
Working on my BB here. Acct with rogers in canada but right now on ATT in Vegas --Original Message-- From: Jeff Kell To: m...@sabbota.com Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Issues with Gmail Sent: Sep 1, 2009 4:25 PM m...@sabbota.com wrote: > I think it just may be front end services t

Re: Issues with Gmail

2009-09-01 Thread Nick Hilliard
On 01/09/2009 21:01, Jim Wininger wrote: Anyone else seeing issues with gmail? Down, definitely down. Call the White House! It should be clear that the root cause here is a lack of regulation, so could someone phone Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D-WV) _urgently_ and advise him that the only way to

Re: Issues with Gmail

2009-09-01 Thread Andrey Gordon
athan Anderson To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: RE: Issues with Gmail Sent: Sep 1, 2009 2:05 PM The minute I saw your question, I tabbed over to an open session, and sure enough... -- Nathan Anderson First Step Internet, LLC nath...@fsr.com -Original Message- From: Jim Wininger [mailto:j

Re: Issues with Gmail

2009-09-01 Thread Ronald Cotoni
Dominic J. Eidson wrote: It appears to be much more a problem with gmail (the MUA) than gmail (the MDA). Gmail/imap appears to be working fine, at least from AUS. - d. On Tue, 1 Sep 2009, Kameron Gasso wrote: Jim Wininger wrote: Anyone else seeing issues with gmail? Yep, it's been th

RE: Issues with Gmail

2009-09-01 Thread Nathan Anderson
Kameron Gasso wrote: > Yep, it's been throwing 502 HTTP errors for about 25 minutes now. > We've been getting a handful of calls from frantic Gmail users > wondering why we broke their interwebs. ;) Somehow it's always our fault, isn't it? :P (Sorry about the earlier top-posting...have been for

Re: Issues with Gmail

2009-09-01 Thread Glenn Johnson
FWIW: http://gmail.com doesn't work for me either right now, but I've read the whole "Issues with Gmail" thread and posted this email via GMail POP and GMail SMTP glenn.s.john...@gmail.com On Sep 1, 2009, at 1:06 PM, Scott Brown/Clack/ESD wrote: Gmail and Google Apps are down in our

Re: Issues with Gmail

2009-09-01 Thread Jeff Kell
m...@sabbota.com wrote: > I think it just may be front end services that are impacted. I'm able to > send/receive mail through my BB BIS gmail account. IMAP seems to still be up. Jeff

Re: Issues with Gmail

2009-09-01 Thread Marshall Eubanks
From Spint EVD0 I get Unable to reach Gmail. Please check your internet connection. Trying to reconnect now… Marshall On Sep 1, 2009, at 4:07 PM, Alex Balashov wrote: Jim Wininger wrote: Anyone else seeing issues with gmail? More specifically? -- Alex Balashov - Principal Evariste Sys

Re: Issues with Gmail

2009-09-01 Thread Kevin Stange
Jim Wininger wrote: > Anyone else seeing issues with gmail? http://mail.google.com/support/?hl=en -- Kevin Stange Chief Technology Officer Steadfast Networks http://steadfast.net Phone: 312-602-2689 ext. 203 | Fax: 312-602-2688 | Cell: 312-320-5867 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital s

Re: Issues with Gmail

2009-09-01 Thread manolo hernandez
Same here. Complete outage Nathan Anderson wrote: > The minute I saw your question, I tabbed over to an open session, and sure > enough... >

Re: Issues with Gmail

2009-09-01 Thread mike
I think it just may be front end services that are impacted. I'm able to send/receive mail through my BB BIS gmail account. --Original Message-- From: Nathan Anderson To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: RE: Issues with Gmail Sent: Sep 1, 2009 2:05 PM The minute I saw your question, I t

Re: Issues with Gmail

2009-09-01 Thread shasan
Yup, it's down. http://thenextweb.com/2009/09/01/google-experiencing-downtime-world/# http://www.google.com/appsstatus#hl=en Been down for the past twenty minutes or so for me in Chapel Hill, NC. Other Google services seem to be working fine. Shaddi On Tue, 01 Sep 2009 16:01:46 -0400, Jim Wini

Re: Issues with Gmail

2009-09-01 Thread Dominic J. Eidson
It appears to be much more a problem with gmail (the MUA) than gmail (the MDA). Gmail/imap appears to be working fine, at least from AUS. - d. On Tue, 1 Sep 2009, Kameron Gasso wrote: Jim Wininger wrote: Anyone else seeing issues with gmail? Yep, it's been throwing 502 HTTP errors for

Re: Issues with Gmail

2009-09-01 Thread Scott Brown/Clack/ESD
Gmail and Google Apps are down in our neck of the woods. -- Scott From: Jim Wininger

Re: Issues with Gmail

2009-09-01 Thread Alex Balashov
Jim Wininger wrote: Anyone else seeing issues with gmail? More specifically? -- Alex Balashov - Principal Evariste Systems Web : http://www.evaristesys.com/ Tel : (+1) (678) 954-0670 Direct : (+1) (678) 954-0671

RE: Issues with Gmail

2009-09-01 Thread Nathan Anderson
The minute I saw your question, I tabbed over to an open session, and sure enough... -- Nathan Anderson First Step Internet, LLC nath...@fsr.com -Original Message- From: Jim Wininger [mailto:jwinin...@indianafiber.net] Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 1:02 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subje

Re: Issues with Gmail

2009-09-01 Thread Kameron Gasso
Jim Wininger wrote: > Anyone else seeing issues with gmail? Yep, it's been throwing 502 HTTP errors for about 25 minutes now. We've been getting a handful of calls from frantic Gmail users wondering why we broke their interwebs. ;) -- Kameron Gasso | Senior Systems Administrator | visp.net Dire

Re: Issues with Gmail

2009-09-01 Thread Raleigh Apple
Yes, I'm seeing errors like: Google Error Server Error The server encountered a temporary error and could not complete your request. Please try again in 30 seconds. r Jim Wininger wrote: Anyone else seeing issues with gmail?

Re: Issues with Gmail

2009-09-01 Thread chaim . rieger
Full gmail outage as per the status page EOM --Original Message-- From: Jim Wininger To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Issues with Gmail Sent: Sep 1, 2009 13:01 Anyone else seeing issues with gmail? -- Jim Wininger Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile