Re: IP Dslams

2019-01-06 Thread Sander Steffann
Hi, >> How many devices are you looking for? >> Consider ZyXEL 1248: >> https://www.zyxel.com/uk/en/products_services/48-port-Temperature-Hardened-ADSL2--Box-DSLAM-IES-1248-5x-IES-1248-5xA-Series/ > > I had bad experiences with those. My apologies, my problems were with a different Zyxel model

RE: IP Dslams

2019-01-05 Thread Payam Poursaied
Hi -Original Message- From: Sander Steffann Sent: January 5, 2019 7:05 AM Hi, >> How many devices are you looking for? >> Consider ZyXEL 1248: >> https://www.zyxel.com/uk/en/products_services/48-port-Temperature-Hardened-ADSL2--Box-DSLAM-IES-1248-5x-IES-1248-5xA-Series/ >I had bad ex

Re: IP Dslams

2019-01-05 Thread Sander Steffann
Hi, > How many devices are you looking for? > Consider ZyXEL 1248: > https://www.zyxel.com/uk/en/products_services/48-port-Temperature-Hardened-ADSL2--Box-DSLAM-IES-1248-5x-IES-1248-5xA-Series/ I had bad experiences with those. When testing IPv6 they messed up the data inside the PPP session. T

RE: IP Dslams

2019-01-04 Thread Payam Poursaied
Hi Nick How many devices are you looking for? Consider ZyXEL 1248: https://www.zyxel.com/uk/en/products_services/48-port-Temperature-Hardened-ADSL2--Box-DSLAM-IES-1248-5x-IES-1248-5xA-Series/ For PPP and those stuff, you can rely on MikroTik. i.e. https://mikrotik.com/product/rb4011igs_rm

Re: IP Dslams

2019-01-04 Thread Rob Pickering
Just a thought, would a two wire Ethernet extender technology (eg Phybridge) provide you with a simpler solution? xDSL needs a lot of infrastructure for a low port count (& budget) application. I have no idea if you can split the baseband out to provide POTS over the same pair, but even if you ca

Re: IP Dslams

2019-01-04 Thread Brandon Martin
On 1/4/19 12:53 PM, Shawn L via NANOG wrote: The "newer" replacement for the 42xx series was the bitstorm (Bitstorm-RP2-152-AC), and they came in AC as well and 48 ports -- in a 1.5 U I think . Yep, that's probably the one you want to look at. I've got one on a shelf. Looks like a nice box.

Re: IP Dslams

2019-01-04 Thread Shawn L via NANOG
The "newer" replacement for the 42xx series was the bitstorm (Bitstorm-RP2-152-AC), and they came in AC as well and 48 ports -- in a 1.5 U I think . -Original Message- From: "Blake Hudson" Sent: Friday, January 4, 2019 12:47pm To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: R

Re: IP Dslams

2019-01-04 Thread Blake Hudson
ernet. -Original Message- From: "Nick Edwards" Sent: Friday, January 4, 2019 9:36am To: "Brandon Martin" Cc: "NANOG" Subject: Re: IP Dslams They don't have a large budget and although I'm yet to get prices on adtran's (understandable, holidays 

Re: IP Dslams

2019-01-04 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Sat, 29 Dec 2018, Nick Edwards wrote: Howdy, We have a requirement for an aged care facility to provide voice and data, we have the voice worked out, but data, WiFi is out of the question, so are looking for IP-Dslams, preferably a system that is all-in-one, or self contained, as in contains

Re: IP Dslams

2019-01-04 Thread Jeff Shultz
You might start hunting on the used market for Occam/Calix B6 equipment, specifically the B6-252 ADSL2+ and POTS card and the 12 slot chassis. You'll have to put in some supporting infrastructure, but they do work well, and I know of at least two aftermarket repair places that will repair them for

Re: IP Dslams

2019-01-04 Thread Shawn L via NANOG
: "Brandon Martin" Cc: "NANOG" Subject: Re: IP Dslams They don't have a large budget and although I'm yet to get prices on adtran's (understandable, holidays 'n all) I doubt it will fit within their budget, it's looking more like getting a few planet

Re: IP Dslams

2019-01-04 Thread Nick Edwards
They don't have a large budget and although I'm yet to get prices on adtran's (understandable, holidays 'n all) I doubt it will fit within their budget, it's looking more like getting a few planet dslams and configuring a linux box as the bng, been 10 years since I've had to do that kind of setup,

Re: IP Dslams

2019-01-02 Thread Brandon Martin
On 1/2/19 6:47 AM, Nick Edwards wrote: There are 260 villas, and no coax. Is there a logical way to distribute the termination? You might be able to get better performance (not that you perhaps care, in this case) at minimal additional cost if you can do building-local termination of each c

Re: IP Dslams

2019-01-02 Thread Nick Edwards
Thanks, do you have any brand DSLAM with combo card in mind? There are 260 villas, and no coax. On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 2:01 PM Colton Conor wrote: > Indstead of using a Vega 3050 for voice I would just get a DSLAM with a > Combo card, and be done with it. VDSL2+ ports plus SIP FXS all on the s

Re: IP Dslams

2019-01-01 Thread Colton Conor
Indstead of using a Vega 3050 for voice I would just get a DSLAM with a Combo card, and be done with it. VDSL2+ ports plus SIP FXS all on the same card. With that you get metalic testing which would be good for your situation. How many units are you talking about? Do you have access to Coaxial ca

Re: IP Dslams

2019-01-01 Thread Nick Edwards
drats that last @ should have been to Colton, my apologies... I have in past used dlink and planet dslams as they were back then dirt cheap, I guess I might have to look at a small mikrotik device that can do all my requirements, just trying to use the KISS approach, as I'm the contractor installi

Re: IP Dslams

2019-01-01 Thread Brandon Martin
On 1/1/19 7:19 AM, Nick Edwards wrote: @Carl:  ADSL2 dslams would no doubt be cheaper than VDSL for retirement village, and as a retirement village, residents must be 65+, therefor, they wont have high bandwidth needs, based on their other much older properties, their residents use between 2 an

Re: IP Dslams

2019-01-01 Thread Nick Edwards
Firstly, thanks everyone for replies. @Carl: ADSL2 dslams would no doubt be cheaper than VDSL for retirement village, and as a retirement village, residents must be 65+, therefor, they wont have high bandwidth needs, based on their other much older properties, their residents use between 2 and 15

Re: IP Dslams

2018-12-31 Thread Jason Baugher
PM (GMT-06:00) To: Nick Edwards Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: RE: IP Dslams I haven’t used any of theses… Check out Adtran Total Access 5000 Platform…. Used by a lot of EoC / EoDS1 carriers Google: Ethernet Extender DSLAM https://enableit.com/rackmount-extender/ From: NANOG On Behalf Of Nick

Re: IP Dslams

2018-12-31 Thread Colton Conor
Carl, What did you select to replace your MX BNG? To Nick, we use Adtran Total Access 5000's today. They work fine, but if I was doing a new install I would do Calix with their newer lines that have SDN BNG functions. Calix just has better CPE to go along with it, but they are just G.Fast and eth

Re: IP Dslams

2018-12-31 Thread Carl Peterson
I'd consider breaking down the two functions. Set up your customer connections using ADSL Ethernet, etc and put each unit in the building on its own CVLAN. This should never change even when the subscribers in the unit change. This way you can configure it once and never touch it again. I'd use

Re: IP Dslams

2018-12-31 Thread Paul Stewart
+1 for Adtran TA5000 .. we use them, my former employer uses them with great success. There’s also the Calix series of gear that is quite good too … From: NANOG on behalf of Erik Sundberg Date: Monday, December 31, 2018 at 2:31 PM To: Nick Edwards Cc: "nanog@nanog.org" Subje

RE: IP Dslams

2018-12-31 Thread Erik Sundberg
I haven’t used any of theses… Check out Adtran Total Access 5000 Platform…. Used by a lot of EoC / EoDS1 carriers Google: Ethernet Extender DSLAM https://enableit.com/rackmount-extender/ From: NANOG On Behalf Of Nick Edwards Sent: Friday, December 28, 2018 7:36 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject