Re: Hauling gear around a NANOG meeting

2008-05-24 Thread Adrian Chadd
On Sat, May 24, 2008, Randy Bush wrote: > i am greatly amused by all the poor country hicks so worried about > having to go to the big scary city. when arriving, sweet virginia, > please be sure to scrape that right off your shoes. Meh. I'm from the most remote pretend-city in the western world

Re: Hauling gear around a NANOG meeting

2008-05-24 Thread Randy Bush
i am greatly amused by all the poor country hicks so worried about having to go to the big scary city. when arriving, sweet virginia, please be sure to scrape that right off your shoes. randy

RE: Hauling gear around a NANOG meeting

2008-05-23 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
e to determine, experimentally, if the leveled phasers were real. -Original Message- From: Christopher LILJENSTOLPE [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 10:48 PM To: Steve Gibbard Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Hauling gear around a NANOG meeting -BEGIN PGP SIG

Re: Hauling gear around a NANOG meeting

2008-05-23 Thread Christopher LILJENSTOLPE
ent too... Travel in herds and mind your own business - don't travel at 3AM (on foot) and you'll be fine..;) That really goes for any city when you think about it... Take care, Paul -Original Message- From: Alex Rubenstein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008

RE: Hauling gear around a NANOG meeting

2008-05-23 Thread Steve Gibbard
k about it... Take care, Paul -Original Message- From: Alex Rubenstein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 5:06 PM To: Rod Beck; David Diaz; Martin Hannigan Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: RE: Hauling gear around a NANOG meeting I hate to break the news to the New York bashe

Re: Hauling gear around a NANOG meeting

2008-05-23 Thread Brant I. Stevens
.. >> >> Travel in herds and mind your own business - don't travel at 3AM (on >> foot) and you'll be fine..;) That really goes for any city when you >> think about it... >> >> Take care, >> >> Paul >> >> -----Original Message--

RE: Hauling gear around a NANOG meeting

2008-05-23 Thread andrew young
at really goes for any city when you > think about it... > > Take care, > > Paul > > -Original Message- > From: Alex Rubenstein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 5:06 PM > To: Rod Beck; David Diaz; Martin Hannigan > Cc: nanog@nanog.

RE: Hauling gear around a NANOG meeting

2008-05-23 Thread Paul Stewart
CTED] Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 5:06 PM To: Rod Beck; David Diaz; Martin Hannigan Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: RE: Hauling gear around a NANOG meeting > I hate to break the news to the New York bashers, but New York is one of > the safest American cities. This is not a controversial sta

RE: Hauling gear around a NANOG meeting

2008-05-23 Thread Alex Rubenstein
> I hate to break the news to the New York bashers, but New York is one of > the safest American cities. This is not a controversial statement. While I generally agree with what Rod is saying, saying "NYC is safe" is like saying "all routers are cisco" There are safe areas, and there are not safe

RE: Hauling gear around a NANOG meeting

2008-05-22 Thread Scott Weeks
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: "Rod Beck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Now that we have television shows like Miami Vice (which are available here in Paris in French), I expect the American public to be less biased in their views of New York. It is all a question of what cities are used as the back

Re: Hauling gear around a NANOG meeting

2008-05-22 Thread andrew young
rooklyn > >> / NYC is pretty OK. > >> > >> Oh, ObOp! Thanks a ton, Telx! > >> > >> > >> > >> - Original Message - > >> From: Chris McDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> To: Martin Hannigan > >> C

Re: Hauling gear around a NANOG meeting

2008-05-22 Thread Hyunseog Ryu
Dave was taken out of context by the usual suspects. Brooklyn / >> NYC is pretty OK. >> >> Oh, ObOp! Thanks a ton, Telx! >> >> >> >> - Original Message - >> From: Chris McDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: Martin Hannigan >> C

Re: Hauling gear around a NANOG meeting

2008-05-22 Thread andrew young
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Re: Hauling gear around a NANOG meeting

2008-05-22 Thread Hyunseog Ryu
Probably if you stick to common sense, it will be o.k. If you see broken windows and/or lots of graffiti in the wall, probably I wouldn't go there. ^>^ Since you will be seeing more people in NYC area, you may get some stress to see lots of people, but overall it's not that bad. Just stick to you

RE: Hauling gear around a NANOG meeting

2008-05-22 Thread Rod Beck
Now that we have television shows like Miami Vice (which are available here in Paris in French), I expect the American public to be less biased in their views of New York. It is all a question of what cities are used as the background for the crime shows. :) Roderick S. Beck

Re: Hauling gear around a NANOG meeting

2008-05-22 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Thu, 22 May 2008 17:10:29 EDT, Alex Rubenstein said: > Yes, but in at least most of those locations, my Florida or Utah CCW is > valid. That's not a router. Now *that's* a router... :) pgpp8Q3vWPupN.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Hauling gear around a NANOG meeting

2008-05-22 Thread Christian
the area in BKLYN where the Mariott is fine, its a one of the better neighborhoods - i believe its Brooklyn Heights, though can be confused with DUMBO and downtown brooklyn as they are all adjacent /christian On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 5:10 PM, Alex Rubenstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I hate

Re: Hauling gear around a NANOG meeting

2008-05-22 Thread Jay R. Ashworth
On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 11:01:00AM -0700, Lynda wrote: > One of the things that makes me popular is that I carry a PowerSquid > (one of the best inventions *evaire*), just in case. They're nice, but the little 8-outlet (5 + 3-transformer) yellow and black thing from Walmart is just as useful, and

Re: Hauling gear around a NANOG meeting

2008-05-22 Thread Martin Hannigan
: Thu May 22 21:00:15 2008 Subject: Re: Hauling gear around a NANOG meeting a glock 27 takes the same magazine as a glock 22. that's good nyc knowledge. On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 4:53 PM, Martin Hannigan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Heheh. Good tip. Where do we ge

Re: Hauling gear around a NANOG meeting

2008-05-22 Thread Chip Marshall
On May 22, 2008, Rod Beck sent me the following: > I hate to break the news to the New York bashers, but New York is one > of the safest American cities. This is not a controversial statement. > > New York has a lower incidence of crime than Miami, Detroit, Seattle, > Los Vegas, Houston, Atlanta,

RE: Hauling gear around a NANOG meeting

2008-05-22 Thread Alex Rubenstein
> I hate to break the news to the New York bashers, but New York is one of > the safest American cities. This is not a controversial statement. While I generally agree with what Rod is saying, saying "NYC is safe" is like saying "all routers are cisco" There are safe areas, and there are not safe

RE: Hauling gear around a NANOG meeting

2008-05-22 Thread Rod Beck
Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: RE: Hauling gear around a NANOG meeting > I hate to break the news to the New York bashers, but New York is one of > the safest American cities. This is not a controversial statement. While I generally agree with what Rod is saying, saying "NYC is safe

Re: Hauling gear around a NANOG meeting

2008-05-22 Thread J. Oquendo
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chris McDonald wrote: | a glock 27 takes the same magazine as a glock 22. that's good nyc knowledge. |> Heheh. Good tip. Where do we get our shields on Sunday? :) Nothing to be afraid of in NYC especially with NANOG coming to town http://www.infilt

Re: Hauling gear around a NANOG meeting

2008-05-22 Thread Chris McDonald
ge - > From: David Diaz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Martin Hannigan > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; nanog@nanog.org > Sent: Thu May 22 20:13:29 2008 > Subject: Re: Hauling gear around a NANOG meeting > > Dave as in David D has spent TOO much time in NY. >

Re: Hauling gear around a NANOG meeting

2008-05-22 Thread Martin Hannigan
Heheh. Good tip. Where do we get our shields on Sunday? :) - Original Message - From: David Diaz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Martin Hannigan Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; nanog@nanog.org Sent: Thu May 22 20:13:29 2008 Subject: Re: Hauling gear around a NANOG m

RE: Hauling gear around a NANOG meeting

2008-05-22 Thread Rod Beck
lto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu 5/22/2008 9:13 PM To: Martin Hannigan Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Hauling gear around a NANOG meeting Dave as in David D has spent TOO much time in NY. I gave basic smart tips for any big city. Just wear a Telx hat and you are safe. That is like the crips there in N

Re: Hauling gear around a NANOG meeting

2008-05-22 Thread David Diaz
og.org Sent: Thu May 22 18:07:48 2008 Subject: Re: Hauling gear around a NANOG meeting I've not been to the conference myself, but I hear laptop and charger is a good plan. Following the advice of our host, David Diaz (Telx), care should be exercised to make sure your laptop bag does not have t

Re: Hauling gear around a NANOG meeting

2008-05-22 Thread Martin Hannigan
. -M< - Original Message - From: Paul Wall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Joe Maimon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: nanog@nanog.org Sent: Thu May 22 18:07:48 2008 Subject: Re: Hauling gear around a NANOG meeting I've not been to the conference myself, but I hear laptop and charger is a

Re: Hauling gear around a NANOG meeting

2008-05-22 Thread Kevin Oberman
> Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 14:07:48 -0400 > From: "Paul Wall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > I've not been to the conference myself, but I hear laptop and charger > is a good plan. > > Following the advice of our host, David Diaz (Telx), care should be > exercised to make sure your laptop bag does not hav

Re: Hauling gear around a NANOG meeting

2008-05-22 Thread Hyunseog Ryu
Third option. ^.^ You may need to have notepad, pens, and other stuffs. Also when you collect brochure or something like that, it is easy to carry around. Hyun Joe Maimon wrote: > Looking for some advice for a first-timer. > > What are your recommendation regarding gear? > > - laptop and charger

Re: Hauling gear around a NANOG meeting

2008-05-22 Thread Paul Wall
I've not been to the conference myself, but I hear laptop and charger is a good plan. Following the advice of our host, David Diaz (Telx), care should be exercised to make sure your laptop bag does not have the text "LAPTOP" printed on it, as that would make it a target for thieves. Additionally,

Re: Hauling gear around a NANOG meeting

2008-05-22 Thread Lynda
Joe Maimon wrote: Looking for some advice for a first-timer. What are your recommendation regarding gear? [snippy] - the whole normal kit&caboodle, wheeled backpack thing Personally, I'd go with the latter. I've done it all, from backpack (that'll start to be a nuisance, trust me) to lapto