RE: [**EXTERNAL**] Re: Half Fibre Pair

2021-01-27 Thread Fox, Barbara via NANOG
From: NANOG On Behalf Of Mark Tinka Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 7:13 AM To: Rod Beck ; nanog@nanog.org Subject: [**EXTERNAL**] Re: Half Fibre Pair On 1/27/21 13:39, Rod Beck wrote: How much spectrum is a half fibre? It must be standardized in some fashion. It would be based on the amount of

Re: [**EXTERNAL**] Re: Half Fibre Pair

2021-01-27 Thread Mark Tinka
On 1/27/21 19:54, Mike Hammett wrote: I believe strand counts were small because the power needed for that many amplifiers was too much to bear for budgets. Also because the amount of capacity we are talking about nowadays, driven by the content folk, is something telco's could only (and st

Re: [**EXTERNAL**] Re: Half Fibre Pair

2021-01-27 Thread Mark Tinka
On 1/27/21 18:11, Rod Beck wrote: What is interesting is this new deep sea design. In the old days cables had 4 to 8 pairs max. Now I am seeing Orange talking about 18 pairs and 24 pairs. With more widely regeneration. Because of the way current submarine cables are being built (mainly by

Re: [**EXTERNAL**] Re: Half Fibre Pair

2021-01-27 Thread Mark Tinka
On 1/27/21 16:52, Fox, Barbara wrote: I asked a submarine guy how much the fibers can carry because this sounded low to me.  His response: That was just an example to illustrate the commercial contracting, not the technical capabilities. Cables currently being laid in the sea are going

Re: [**EXTERNAL**] Re: Half Fibre Pair

2021-01-27 Thread Mike Hammett
dnesday, January 27, 2021 10:11:29 AM Subject: Re: [**EXTERNAL**] Re: Half Fibre Pair What is interesting is this new deep sea design. In the old days cables had 4 to 8 pairs max. Now I am seeing Orange talking about 18 pairs and 24 pairs. With more widely regeneration. https://www.orange.com/en

Re: [**EXTERNAL**] Re: Half Fibre Pair

2021-01-27 Thread Rod Beck
so announces the signature of a partnership on the AMITIÉ cable ... www.orange.com Regards, Rdoerick. From: Fox, Barbara Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 3:52 PM To: Mark Tinka ; Rod Beck ; nanog@nanog.org Subject: RE: [**EXTERNAL**] Re: Half Fibre Pair I asked

Re: Half Fibre Pair

2021-01-27 Thread Mark Tinka
On 1/27/21 13:39, Rod Beck wrote: How much spectrum is a half fibre? It must be standardized in some fashion. It would be based on the amount of capacity each fibre in the overall system can carry across a given line system span. So say a cable system is able to carry 960Gbps per fibre pai

Re: Half Fibre Pair

2021-01-27 Thread Rod Beck
How much spectrum is a half fibre? It must be standardized in some fashion. Regards, Roderick. From: NANOG on behalf of Mark Tinka Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 12:33 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Half Fibre Pair On 1/26/21 22:51, Rod Beck wrote

Re: Half Fibre Pair

2021-01-27 Thread Mark Tinka
On 1/26/21 22:51, Rod Beck wrote: Can someone explain to me what is a half fibre pair? I took it literally to mean a single fibre strand but someone insisted it was a large quantity of spectrum. Please illuminate. On or off list as you please. It is language used in the submarine world, wh

Re: Half Fibre Pair

2021-01-26 Thread Ask Bjørn Hansen
> On Jan 26, 2021, at 12:51, Rod Beck wrote: > > Can someone explain to me what is a half fibre pair? I took it literally to > mean a single fibre strand but someone insisted it was a large quantity of > spectrum. Please illuminate. On or off list as you please. Depending on the context it

Re: Half Fibre Pair

2021-01-26 Thread Matthew Petach
rs, > there will be more players doing fractional purchases. > > > > > > -- > *From:* William Herrin > *Sent:* Tuesday, January 26, 2021 10:56 PM > *To:* Rod Beck > *Cc:* nanog@nanog.org > *Subject:* Re: Half Fibre Pair > > On Tue, Jan 26, 2021 at 12:52 PM Rod Beck >

Re: Half Fibre Pair

2021-01-26 Thread Rod Beck
t: Tuesday, January 26, 2021 10:56 PM To: Rod Beck Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Half Fibre Pair On Tue, Jan 26, 2021 at 12:52 PM Rod Beck wrote: > Can someone explain to me what is a half fibre pair? I took it > literally to mean a single fibre strand but someone insisted it > was

Re: Half Fibre Pair

2021-01-26 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
Back in the day, there were these things called half-circuits or half-cables. Telephone companies in different countries would “share” a cable under the ocean, where the company in each country would own “half” the cable - i.e. from their shore to the middle of the ocean. I have no idea what th

Re: Half Fibre Pair

2021-01-26 Thread Ben Cannon
I’d internet that to be a really weird way to describe a single strand as well, but I could see a confused person asserting it’s 44 out of 88 wavelengths? I’ve never heard that. Ms. Lady Benjamin PD Cannon, ASCE 6x7 Networks & 6x7 Telecom, LLC CEO b...@6by7.net "The only fully end-to-end encry

Re: Half Fibre Pair

2021-01-26 Thread William Herrin
On Tue, Jan 26, 2021 at 12:52 PM Rod Beck wrote: > Can someone explain to me what is a half fibre pair? I took it > literally to mean a single fibre strand but someone insisted it > was a large quantity of spectrum. Please illuminate. Maybe it's like half a pair of glasses, the perfect accessory

Re: Half Fibre Pair

2021-01-26 Thread Craig
single strand / cwdm optics On Tue, Jan 26, 2021 at 3:52 PM Rod Beck wrote: > Can someone explain to me what is a half fibre pair? I took it literally > to mean a single fibre strand but someone insisted it was a large quantity > of spectrum. Please illuminate. On or off list as you please. > >