Re: Google captcha issue

2020-06-19 Thread Christopher Tyler
CTCE/MTCWE Total Highspeed Internet Solutions 1091 W. Kathryn Street Nixa, MO 65714 (417) 851-1107 x. 9002 www.totalhighspeed.com - Original Message - > From: "Christopher Morrow" > To: "Sabri Berisha" > Cc: "nanog" > Sent: Friday, June 19, 2020 1

Re: Google captcha issue

2020-06-19 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 1:44 PM Sabri Berisha wrote: > > - On Jun 19, 2020, at 9:40 AM, William Herrin b...@herrin.us wrote: > > Hi, > > > Do you, or perhaps your upstream have such a contract? > > I'd be pretty unhappy if someone that I'm paying for transit spoofs traffic > with my IP space a

Re: Google captcha issue

2020-06-19 Thread Sabri Berisha
- On Jun 19, 2020, at 9:40 AM, William Herrin b...@herrin.us wrote: Hi, > Do you, or perhaps your upstream have such a contract? I'd be pretty unhappy if someone that I'm paying for transit spoofs traffic with my IP space as the source. Thanks, Sabri

Re: Google captcha issue

2020-06-19 Thread William Herrin
On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 9:15 AM Christopher Tyler wrote: > We run a smaller ISP of about 7.5k customers and the other day we got an > email (excerpt below) from one of Google's automated tools. > > We are seeing automated scraping of Google Web Search from a large > number of your IPs. Automated

Re: Google Captcha

2018-09-14 Thread Damian Menscher via NANOG
Solving a captcha issues an exemption cookie. If you're being blocked again on the "next search" this implies that cookie isn't working because: - your "next search" was several hours later, and the exemption cookie expired - you cleared cookies (or used a different browser) - you're doing s

Re: Google Captcha

2018-09-14 Thread Chris Gross
. From: Selphie Keller Sent: Friday, September 14, 2018 17:20 To: li...@mtin.net Cc: NANOG list Subject: Re: Google Captcha Yeah google captcha is fun, I trigger this all the time when relentlessly searching for something, ironically I giggle at the idea that my

Re: Google Captcha

2018-09-14 Thread nop
- Not being signed in to a Google account with a verified phone number - Searching complex things that look like dorks ("powered by vbulletin", "xxx v0.0.1", etc), can trigger within a page or two sometimes - Does this end user lease any IPs from brokers or otherwise? - on extremely, very, ve

Re: Google Captcha

2018-09-14 Thread Selphie Keller
Yeah google captcha is fun, I trigger this all the time when relentlessly searching for something, ironically I giggle at the idea that my searching is so extreme it's classified as a bot at times. On Fri, 14 Sep 2018 at 10:32, Justin Wilson wrote: > In the experience of the community what cause

Re: Google Captcha

2018-09-14 Thread Ross Tajvar
As I understand it, no one really knows. They refuse to tell anyone. On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 12:31 PM, Justin Wilson wrote: > In the experience of the community what causes the “Unusual traffic” > messages when doing google searches? This ISP network hands out public IP > addresses to each and e

Re: Google captcha problem on newly rented subnet

2016-07-25 Thread Damian Menscher via NANOG
If you send details off-list I can take a quick look for you. Using a hosting provider that ignores abuse complaints is a likely cause, but I'm curious about the '3 captchas' thing as one should be sufficient. Please also explain what you're using the machine for. Damian On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at

RE: Google Captcha on web searches

2015-11-11 Thread Ian Mock
ed to normal after a few hours. Ian Mock From: NANOG [nanog-boun...@nanog.org] on behalf of Mark Tinka [mark.ti...@seacom.mu] Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 10:23 AM To: Christopher Morrow Cc: nanog list Subject: Re: Google Captcha on web searches On 1

Re: Google Captcha on web searches

2015-11-11 Thread Mark Tinka
On 11/Nov/15 18:15, Christopher Morrow wrote: > Yes, people also jump out of perfectly good airplanes... we can't fix > all the things :( > my point really is you assume some risk when you do odd things with > basic plumbing on the internet, if you don't actually know what you > are doing you're

Re: Google Captcha on web searches

2015-11-11 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 11:09 AM, Mark Tinka wrote: > > > On 11/Nov/15 18:03, Christopher Morrow wrote: > >> it's in wikipedia, so ... someone did :) But yea, don't use dns >> servers that lie to you UNLESS you understand very well what that lie >> is going to be and under what conditions you'll g

Re: Google Captcha on web searches

2015-11-11 Thread Mark Tinka
On 11/Nov/15 18:03, Christopher Morrow wrote: > it's in wikipedia, so ... someone did :) But yea, don't use dns > servers that lie to you UNLESS you understand very well what that lie > is going to be and under what conditions you'll get the lie. Well, there is a ton of them offering pay-for se

Re: Google Captcha on web searches

2015-11-11 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 10:57 AM, Mark Tinka wrote: > > > On 11/Nov/15 17:09, Christopher Morrow wrote: > >> 'smart' ... I can't imagine that the DNS server you use would matter >> to Google, from a 'send to captcha' perspective. I CAN imagine that >> the DNS server you use could lie to you about

Re: Google Captcha on web searches

2015-11-11 Thread Mark Tinka
On 11/Nov/15 17:09, Christopher Morrow wrote: > 'smart' ... I can't imagine that the DNS server you use would matter > to Google, from a 'send to captcha' perspective. I CAN imagine that > the DNS server you use could lie to you about the right RR to send > back, and then push you through some p

Re: Google Captcha on web searches

2015-11-11 Thread Damian Menscher via NANOG
On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 2:43 PM, Chris Murray wrote: > The "popular open dns services" you refer to appear to be Proxy/VPN > services that also provide DNS to get around region blocking. These > services proxy and/or NAT users behind a single IP address to make it > look like you are coming from

Re: Google Captcha on web searches

2015-11-11 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 12:58 AM, Mark Tinka wrote: > > > On 11/Nov/15 01:09, Nikolay Shopik wrote: > >> Hi Chris, >> >> Yeah I probably should worded that differently not 'open dns services', >> sorry about that. > > I think those types of DNS services are so-called "Smart DNS". 'smart' ... I ca

Re: Google Captcha on web searches

2015-11-10 Thread Mark Tinka
On 11/Nov/15 01:09, Nikolay Shopik wrote: > Hi Chris, > > Yeah I probably should worded that differently not 'open dns services', > sorry about that. I think those types of DNS services are so-called "Smart DNS". Mark.

Re: Google Captcha on web searches

2015-11-10 Thread Nikolay Shopik
Hi Chris, Yeah I probably should worded that differently not 'open dns services', sorry about that. In my case there is no proxy/vpn service (i know they can do that), just DNS changes. For some reason that cause false-positive detection in google from time to time. On 11/11/2015 01:43, Chris Mur

Re: Google Captcha on web searches

2015-11-10 Thread Chris Murray
Hi Nikolay, The "popular open dns services" you refer to appear to be Proxy/VPN services that also provide DNS to get around region blocking. These services proxy and/or NAT users behind a single IP address to make it look like you are coming from a different country. I may be biased, but when I

Re: Google Captcha on web searches

2015-11-10 Thread Nikolay Shopik
When I've started using DNS from unotelly service, captcha starts appears from time to time. If I change DNS to something else, catcha gone immediately. Its probably related to DNS geo-locating to decide what records serve to client On 10/11/2015 23:00, Christopher Morrow wrote: > On Tue, Nov 10,

Re: Google Captcha on web searches

2015-11-10 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 1:09 PM, Nikolay Shopik wrote: > You may get captcha if you are using popular open dns services. At least > this is what I've seen. > pardon, what? > On 10/11/2015 20:28, Joseph Jenkins wrote: >> We started getting a Google Captcha for our web searches this morning. Does

RE: Google Captcha on web searches

2015-11-10 Thread Nicholas Warren
We had that problem too, it was only happening to computers with a NATed v4 address. Connecting to Google over IPv6 made the problems go away. Thank you, - Nich > -Original Message- > From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Joseph Jenkins > Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2

Re: Google Captcha on web searches

2015-11-10 Thread Nikolay Shopik
You may get captcha if you are using popular open dns services. At least this is what I've seen. On 10/11/2015 20:28, Joseph Jenkins wrote: > We started getting a Google Captcha for our web searches this morning. Does > anyone have contact info for Google so that I can contact them and figure out

Re: Google Captcha on web searches

2015-11-10 Thread Josh Luthman
It's done per /32 I believe. Do you have a lot of NATed users? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Nov 10, 2015 12:29 PM, "Joseph Jenkins" wrote: > We started getting a Google Captcha for our web searches this morning. > Does anyone

Re: Google Captcha on web searches

2015-11-10 Thread Joseph Jenkins
I have about a 600 users. We aren’t dual stick only ipv4 at this point. Someone contacted me off list and gave me some insight as to what to key on. Joe > On Nov 10, 2015, at 9:48 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: > > It's done per /32 I believe. Do you have a lot of NATed users? > > Josh Luthman >

Re: Google Captcha on web searches

2015-11-10 Thread Hugo Slabbert
On Tue 2015-Nov-10 09:28:09 -0800, Joseph Jenkins wrote: We started getting a Google Captcha for our web searches this morning. Does anyone have contact info for Google so that I can contact them and figure out where the traffic is coming from on my side or what service it is going to so t