Here's a few more resources:
http://www.ipdeny.com/ipblocks/
http://www.nirsoft.net/countryip/
Frank
-Original Message-
From: shawn wilson [mailto:ag4ve...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2013 11:27 PM
To: i...@cymru.com
Cc: North American Network Operators Group
Subject: Re:
If anyone is interrested, here's a little Perl CLI util to lookup what
countries registered networks within a block. There's no documentation
yet, it's a .pl where it should probably be a command with a makefile
installer, and Net::CIDR overlaps Net::IP. At any rate, hopefully it
is useful to someo
On May 24, 2013, at 10:47 AM, David Conrad wrote:
> I replied privately to Owen, but might as well share:
>
> On May 23, 2013, at 11:57 PM, Owen DeLong wrote:
> True, according to (at least some of) the RIRs they reside in regions...
Really? Which ones? I thought they were only issued
On May 24, 2013, at 3:27 AM, Paul Kelly :: Blacknight wrote:
>>>
>>> Just because I have operations in one region does not preclude me
>> from having operations
>>> in other regions. YMMV of course.
>>>
>>> /bill
>>
>> That was exactly my point, Bill... If you have operations in RIPE
You're thinking like an engineer.
Think like a marketer.
They expect less than 1% response on paper mail advertising.
Now, compare and contrast your idea of a reasonable confidence level
and theirs.
--
-Barry Shein
The World | b...@theworld.com | http://www.Th
On May 24, 2013, at 01:13 , shawn wilson wrote:
> I knew this would come up. Actually I'm surprised and glad it waited until I
> got a solution first.
>
> I'll address a few points:
> - this is mainly to stop stupid things from sending packets from countries we
> will probably never want to d
On May 24, 2013, at 00:28 , Jean-Francois Mezei
wrote:
> On 13-05-24 02:57, Owen DeLong wrote:
>
>> That was exactly my point, Bill... If you have operations in RIPE and ARIN
>> regions, it is entirely possible for you to obtain addresses from RIPE or
>> ARIN and use them in both locations,
I replied privately to Owen, but might as well share:
On May 23, 2013, at 11:57 PM, Owen DeLong wrote:
True, according to (at least some of) the RIRs they reside in regions...
>>> Really? Which ones? I thought they were only issued to organizations that
>>> had operations in regions.
> Tha
On May 24, 2013, at 2:34 AM, Andreas Larsen wrote:
> If we continue to support and build tools around this geolocation based
> ip-dravel, we give people a false notion that this is something we should
> do.
> ...
>
> Or just get rid of the whole idea and realize that the internet is global
> an
I knew this would come up. Actually I'm surprised and glad it waited until
I got a solution first.
I'll address a few points:
- this is mainly to stop stupid things from sending packets from countries
we will probably never want to do business with (I'm looking mainly at that
big country under APN
On 13-05-24 02:57, Owen DeLong wrote:
> That was exactly my point, Bill... If you have operations in RIPE and ARIN
> regions, it is entirely possible for you to obtain addresses from RIPE or
> ARIN and use them in both locations, or, obtain addresses from both RIPE and
> ARIN and use them in th
> >
> > Just because I have operations in one region does not preclude me
> from having operations
> > in other regions. YMMV of course.
> >
> > /bill
>
> That was exactly my point, Bill... If you have operations in RIPE and ARIN
> regions, it is entirely possible for you to obtain addres
On May 23, 2013, at 23:49 , bmann...@vacation.karoshi.com wrote:
> On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 11:39:12PM -0700, Owen DeLong wrote:
>>
>> On May 23, 2013, at 23:17 , David Conrad wrote:
>>
>>> On May 23, 2013, at 10:53 PM, Andreas Larsen
>>> wrote:
The whole idea of Geoip is flawed.
>>>
>>
On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 11:39:12PM -0700, Owen DeLong wrote:
>
> On May 23, 2013, at 23:17 , David Conrad wrote:
>
> > On May 23, 2013, at 10:53 PM, Andreas Larsen
> > wrote:
> >> The whole idea of Geoip is flawed.
> >
> > Sure, but pragmatically, it's an 80% solution.
> >
> >> IP dosen't re
On May 23, 2013, at 23:17 , David Conrad wrote:
> On May 23, 2013, at 10:53 PM, Andreas Larsen
> wrote:
>> The whole idea of Geoip is flawed.
>
> Sure, but pragmatically, it's an 80% solution.
>
>> IP dosen't reside in countries,
>
> True, according to (at least some of) the RIRs they resid
If we continue to support and build tools around this geolocation based
ip-dravel, we give people a false notion that this is something we should
do.
Identify users with some other means that Geoip
Couple of things comes to mind.
* normal postage mail that they have to collect at their home and
On May 23, 2013, at 10:53 PM, Andreas Larsen wrote:
> The whole idea of Geoip is flawed.
Sure, but pragmatically, it's an 80% solution.
> IP dosen't reside in countries,
True, according to (at least some of) the RIRs they reside in regions...
Regards,
-drc
The whole idea of Geoip is flawed. IP dosen't reside in countries, they
are routable adresses that can reside everywhere, I guess soon on mars
even.
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This may be just a case of getting what you pay for, but Maxmind marks
entire netblocks as proxies, puts 'em in the wrong country, and
ignores repeated efforts by the registrant of the address space to set
the record straight. The problem comes when people actually do stuff
with the information,
On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 5:36 PM, Joe Abley wrote:
>
> On 2013-05-23, at 16:56, shawn wilson wrote:
>
>> It looks you're right and everyone does have the same data in
>> historical format. Looks like RIPE has everything compiled into what
>> is current. So if a block hasn't changed for 10 years, i
On 2013-05-23, at 16:56, shawn wilson wrote:
> It looks you're right and everyone does have the same data in
> historical format. Looks like RIPE has everything compiled into what
> is current. So if a block hasn't changed for 10 years, it'll be in the
> RIPE dataset vs with the others, I'd have
I've used the MaxMind Lite geo-ip database plus some perl modules and a BGP
table to get something fairly close. Anything in the BGP table that was
larger than a /20 I split into /20's. For my use case, this was close
enough. I then grabbed 30 or so IP's within the range and geo-ip mapped
them.
On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 4:40 PM, shawn wilson wrote:
> On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 4:32 PM, Joe Abley wrote:
>>
>> On 2013-05-23, at 15:47, shawn wilson wrote:
>>
>>
>> ftp://ftp.apnic.net/public/apnic/stats/apnic/
>> ftp://ftp.ripe.net/ripe/dbase/
>> ftp://ftp.lacnic.net/pub/stats/lacnic/
>>
On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 4:32 PM, Joe Abley wrote:
>
> On 2013-05-23, at 15:47, shawn wilson wrote:
>
>> What's the best way to find the networks in a country? I was thinking of
>> writing some perl with Net::Whois::ARIN or some such module and loop
>> through the block. But I think I'll have to b
On 2013-05-23, at 15:47, shawn wilson wrote:
> What's the best way to find the networks in a country? I was thinking of
> writing some perl with Net::Whois::ARIN or some such module and loop
> through the block. But I think I'll have to be smarter than just a simple
> loop not to get blocked and
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