Re: From Europe to Australia via right way

2015-04-02 Thread joel jaeggli
On 4/2/15 10:08 AM, McDonald Richards wrote: > If you want a direct path then SMW3 remains the only cable for the final > leg from Singapore to Perth and it's capacity is only a few hundred > gigabits. There are at least 2 proposed new systems racing to get into > the water between Singapore and Pe

Re: From Europe to Australia via right way

2015-04-02 Thread Rod Beck
the Americas Hibernia Networks http://www.hibernianetworks.com From: NANOG on behalf of Jared Mauch Sent: Thursday, April 2, 2015 4:23 PM To: Martin Hepworth Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: From Europe to Australia via right way > On Apr 2, 2015, at

Re: From Europe to Australia via right way

2015-04-02 Thread McDonald Richards
If you want a direct path then SMW3 remains the only cable for the final leg from Singapore to Perth and it's capacity is only a few hundred gigabits. There are at least 2 proposed new systems racing to get into the water between Singapore and Perth to try and address this gap in supply and demand.

Re: From Europe to Australia via right way

2015-04-02 Thread Mark Tinka
On 2/Apr/15 16:32, Jared Mauch wrote: > Seeing multiple hit times within a 24h period isn’t really acceptable and > keeps > these paths from being viable. Agreed. > > They are claiming they are within 50ms. Which makes sense if the end-to-end path is less than 50ms re: seeing hitless failover

Re: From Europe to Australia via right way

2015-04-02 Thread Jared Mauch
> On Apr 2, 2015, at 10:27 AM, Mark Tinka wrote: > > > > On 2/Apr/15 16:23, Jared Mauch wrote: >> I think this stability is key, I’ve been watching a testing team go round and >> round with a telco that seems to think that 1 second hits is acceptable >> through >> this area and they are unwil

Re: From Europe to Australia via right way

2015-04-02 Thread Mark Tinka
On 2/Apr/15 16:23, Jared Mauch wrote: > I think this stability is key, I’ve been watching a testing team go round and > round with a telco that seems to think that 1 second hits is acceptable > through > this area and they are unwilling to resolve it and seem to be begging “please > just accept

Re: From Europe to Australia via right way

2015-04-02 Thread Jared Mauch
> On Apr 2, 2015, at 10:15 AM, Martin Hepworth wrote: > > The new AAE-1 will have 40Tbps connections from Europe to Hong Kong so > hopefully the routes will start to migrate in 2016 and give us an Easterly > route to APAC that has enough capacity to be stable in that direction I think this stab

Re: From Europe to Australia via right way

2015-04-02 Thread Martin Hepworth
There's a new AAE-1 cable currently being laid (sunk!) that comes online early 2016 that will help. But right now alot of traffic cuts across the US as it's still the 'best' route for reasons other that latency as others have already mentioned. The new AAE-1 will have 40Tbps connections from Europ

Re: From Europe to Australia via right way

2015-04-02 Thread Jared Mauch
On Thu, Apr 02, 2015 at 10:43:25AM +0200, Elmar K. Bins wrote: > piotr.1...@interia.pl (Piotr) wrote: > > > What's the reason, there are some telecoms,isp that have paths eastbound, > > southbound but in routing table they prefer longer path via US ? > > Come on - you do know that it's called "p

Re: From Europe to Australia via right way

2015-04-02 Thread Elmar K. Bins
piotr.1...@interia.pl (Piotr) wrote: > What's the reason, there are some telecoms,isp that have paths eastbound, > southbound but in routing table they prefer longer path via US ? Come on - you do know that it's called "policy" routing for a reason? Costs, reserved bw/s for high-rollers, capacit

Re: From Europe to Australia via right way

2015-04-02 Thread Piotr
It's close to Sydney, 203.18.241.0/24 What's the reason, there are some telecoms,isp that have paths eastbound, southbound but in routing table they prefer longer path via US ? regards, Piotr W dniu 2015-04-02 o 01:45, Matt Perkins pisze: Some times you can get luck and go through SE-ME-

Re: From Europe to Australia via right way

2015-04-01 Thread Dorian Kim
I don’t believe anyone has significant IP network capacity going EU -> Australia in that direction, esp. since once you get to Singapore, the options to get to Australia are limited. Even for networks that do have EU to Asia connectivity via Indian Ocean or land route to north Asia, the preferr

Re: From Europe to Australia via right way

2015-04-01 Thread Rod Beck
Yes, I believe PCCW had the route at one time. Roderick Beck Sales Director/Europe and the Americas Hibernia Networks http://www.hibernianetworks.com Budapest and New York 36-30-859-5144 rod.b...@hibernianetworks.com From: NANOG on behalf of Piotr Sent

Re: From Europe to Australia via right way

2015-04-01 Thread Matt Perkins
Some times you can get luck and go through SE-ME-WE3 (we it's not cut) but most path's are via the US. What is your destination network in Australia. Matt On 2/04/2015 10:10 am, Tom Paseka wrote: you won't find internet packets going that way though (most of the time). You can buy a L2vpn, p2

Re: From Europe to Australia via right way

2015-04-01 Thread Tom Paseka
you won't find internet packets going that way though (most of the time). You can buy a L2vpn, p2p, etc, that will though. On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 2:51 PM, joel jaeggli wrote: > On 4/1/15 3:14 AM, Piotr wrote: > > Hello, > > > > There is some telecom, isp which have route from EU to AU via east o

Re: From Europe to Australia via right way

2015-04-01 Thread joel jaeggli
On 4/1/15 3:14 AM, Piotr wrote: > Hello, > > There is some telecom, isp which have route from EU to AU via east or > south east (via Russia, Red sea or other ways) ? Now i have path via US > and looking something in opposite direction. telstra ntt reliance retn all have eastbound paths from euro