JVNCNet survived and became operated by Global Enterprise Services, the company
Sergio created to spin off the network out of Princeton University, GES was
acquired by Verio in 1997 and Sergio moved to start another company. Last
message I've got from him said he was in Panama providing consult
On 17/07/13 23:52, Jeff Walter wrote:
On 7/17/13 1:59 PM, Alex Harrowell wrote:
On 15/07/13 01:09, Tony Patti wrote:
TWELVE years ago (press release March 20 2001), Comcast deployed
Linux-based
Sun Cobalt Qube appliances as CPE with their business-class Internet
service,
these provided firewall
> * Alex Rubenstein (a...@corp.nac.net) wrote:
>>> Ohh we had some of those at JVNCNet, a real piece of crap.
>>
>> Wow. JVNCnet. Haven't heard that name in a long, long time.
Same here. I worked there from September 1987 through the closure in june of
1990. Whatever happened to Sergio Heker
* Alex Rubenstein (a...@corp.nac.net) wrote:
> > Ohh we had some of those at JVNCNet, a real piece of crap.
>
> Wow. JVNCnet. Haven't heard that name in a long, long time.
RIP Sir Alec Guinness.
Stephen
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> Ohh we had some of those at JVNCNet, a real piece of crap.
Wow. JVNCnet. Haven't heard that name in a long, long time.
Ohh we had some of those at JVNCNet, a real piece of crap.
-Jorge
On Jul 17, 2013, at 6:56 PM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Jul 2013 16:36:19 -0700, Roy said:
>> On 7/17/2013 1:59 PM, Alex Harrowell wrote:
>>> On 15/07/13 01:09, Tony Patti wrote:
TWELVE years ago (press rele
On Wed, 2013-07-17 at 16:36 -0700, Roy wrote:
> On 7/17/2013 1:59 PM, Alex Harrowell wrote:
> > On 15/07/13 01:09, Tony Patti wrote:
> >> TWELVE years ago (press release March 20 2001), Comcast deployed
> >> Linux-based
> >> Sun Cobalt Qube appliances as CPE with their business-class Internet
> >>
On Wed, 17 Jul 2013 16:36:19 -0700, Roy said:
> On 7/17/2013 1:59 PM, Alex Harrowell wrote:
> > On 15/07/13 01:09, Tony Patti wrote:
> >> TWELVE years ago (press release March 20 2001), Comcast deployed
> >> Linux-based
> >> Sun Cobalt Qube appliances as CPE with their business-class Internet
> >
On 7/17/2013 1:59 PM, Alex Harrowell wrote:
On 15/07/13 01:09, Tony Patti wrote:
TWELVE years ago (press release March 20 2001), Comcast deployed
Linux-based
Sun Cobalt Qube appliances as CPE with their business-class Internet
service,
these provided firewall security, web caching, optional con
On 7/17/13 1:59 PM, Alex Harrowell wrote:
> On 15/07/13 01:09, Tony Patti wrote:
>> TWELVE years ago (press release March 20 2001), Comcast deployed
>> Linux-based
>> Sun Cobalt Qube appliances as CPE with their business-class Internet
>> service,
>> these provided firewall security, web caching, o
On 15/07/13 01:09, Tony Patti wrote:
TWELVE years ago (press release March 20 2001), Comcast deployed Linux-based
Sun Cobalt Qube appliances as CPE with their business-class Internet
service,
these provided firewall security, web caching, optional content filtering,
an e-mail server, a web server
?
Tony Patti
CIO
S. Walter Packaging Corp.
From: jim deleskie [mailto:deles...@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 8:44 PM
To: Tony Patti
Cc: NANOG list
Subject: Re: Friday Hosing
I could support any of these services myself, and have guys that work me
that can as well, but none of thes
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Patrick W. Gilmore [mailto:patr...@ianai.net]
> Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 6:23 PM
> To: NANOG list
> Subject: Re: Friday Hosing
>
> On Jul 12, 2013, at 19:22 , Nick Khamis wrote:
>
> > Set up your own email server, host
W. Gilmore [mailto:patr...@ianai.net]
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 6:23 PM
To: NANOG list
Subject: Re: Friday Hosing
On Jul 12, 2013, at 19:22 , Nick Khamis wrote:
> Set up your own email server, host your own web pages, maintain your
> own cloud, breath your own oxygen FTW.
That's sim
m: Patrick W. Gilmore
To: NANOG list
Subject: Re: Friday Hosing
Sent: Jul 14, 2013 6:22 PM
On Jul 12, 2013, at 19:22 , Nick Khamis wrote:
> Set up your own email server, host your own web pages, maintain your own
> cloud, breath your own oxygen FTW.
That's simply not realistic f
On Jul 12, 2013, at 19:22 , Nick Khamis wrote:
> Set up your own email server, host your own web pages, maintain your own
> cloud, breath your own oxygen FTW.
That's simply not realistic for many companies and essentially all people (to a
first approximation).
--
TTFN,
patrick
On 7/13/13, Eric Adler wrote:
Yes. Maintain control. If you want to avoid the cost of
doubling, discuss the risk for the new provider, and ask if they can
waive their fee for the period until the old service is cancelled,
before agreeing to complete the sale.
> As mentioned by others, it
Just finished migration from a provider that I was no longer happy with to
a new provider. Fully expecting them to turn me off the moment I said
'cancel', I prepared everything in advance, moved all the pointers over a
few days prior to my planned day to tell them to 'shutoff', retrieved a
final b
al Message-
From: Jimmy Hess [mailto:mysi...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2013 4:09 AM
To: Jean-Francois Mezei
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Friday Hosing
On 7/12/13, Jean-Francois Mezei wrote:
> On 13-07-12 11:44, Alain Hebert wrote:
> 1- You call to make cancellation on date X.
On 7/12/13, Jean-Francois Mezei wrote:
> On 13-07-12 11:44, Alain Hebert wrote:
> 1- You call to make cancellation on date X. Speak to person 1.
> 2- Wait 20 minutes
In a theoretical ideal world, that would probably work fine, but a
request for "Shut off service effective the 15th" is just a
Set up your own email server, host your own web pages, maintain your own
cloud, breath your own oxygen FTW.
N.
On 07/12/13 13:54, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
> On Jul 12, 2013, at 13:44 , Bryan Fields wrote:
>> On 7/12/13 1:39 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
>>> Put another way, whether it was stupid or evil, the results are the same.
>>> Turning off a customer in good standing is actionable in court, and sho
On 13-07-12 11:44, Alain Hebert wrote:
> After a somewhat pleasant call to the "monopole" informing them that
> they are planning to divorce them in 30 days, and that it was clearly
> stated that since they are paying for those additional 30 days that
> their services wont be cut off...
1- You ca
On Jul 12, 2013, at 13:44 , Bryan Fields wrote:
> On 7/12/13 1:39 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
>> Put another way, whether it was stupid or evil, the results are the same.
>> Turning off a customer in good standing is actionable in court, and should
>> be avoided by legitimate businesses at ne
On 7/12/13 1:39 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
> Put another way, whether it was stupid or evil, the results are the same.
> Turning off a customer in good standing is actionable in court, and should be
> avoided by legitimate businesses at nearly all costs.
You can void a contract at any time so
Composed on a virtual keyboard, please forgive typos.
On Jul 12, 2013, at 13:25, na...@namor.ca wrote:
> On Fri, 12 Jul 2013, Alain Hebert wrote:
>
>> Is it me or the bigger a corporation gets the more vindictive (a b-word
>> intended) they are to customers leaving them?
>
> "Never attribute t
On Fri, 12 Jul 2013, Alain Hebert wrote:
Is it me or the bigger a corporation gets the more vindictive (a b-word
intended) they are to customers leaving them?
"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by
stupidity."
Hopefully this isn't one of mine, but I've seen this ha
- Original Message -
> From: "Alain Hebert"
> Is it me or the bigger a corporation gets the more vindictive (a
> b-word intended) they are to customers leaving them?
[ long saga elided ]
And now you know why it's standard operating procedure:
*Never* tell the losing service provider th
The biggest grievance I have is in regards to carriers with automatic contract
renewals. Combined with the fact that these carriers either refused to allow
month to month billing or will allow it at double / triple current rates,
coordinating disconnection of older services while turning up new
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